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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 18/11/2010 2:13:39 PM   
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It was a good episode, but there were a few 'coincidences'.

When did Jimmy's mother realise that her new lover was out to get her son and what were the Feds doing there when Jimmy was leading him out?

Still, it was an excellent episode and it's great to see Nucky has his minions everywhere, even in the FBI.

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 18/11/2010 3:39:50 PM   
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When did Jimmy's mother realise that her new lover was out to get her son and what were the Feds doing there when Jimmy was leading him out?


Was mentioned an episode or 2 back.  When Jimmy rang his mum he asked her to tell him about him.


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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 24/11/2010 8:02:02 PM   
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Loving this! Just keeps getting better and better - the writing, the direction, the acting...superb!

Think Michael Pitt has grown in the series and now looks and acts like a tough gangster not scared of anything - the last episode he really shone - the bit in Chalky's distilory is great Buscemi is superb as always.



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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 1/12/2010 12:23:27 AM   
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My new favourite show, brilliant first season - can't wait for the finale!

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 5/12/2010 4:01:38 PM   
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Finale tonight...someone will die.

This has been great TV...a little slow in places but its took time to build characters up. Buscemi has excelled, Pitt has been excellent, Kelly Macdonald's accent has eventually worked, Van Alden is by far the most disturbing of all the characters. If this doesnt clean up at the awards then there is something wrong

Cant believe more folks havent been watching

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 6/12/2010 6:54:29 PM   
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Finale discussion starts here...


Well, that was awesome. Loving the dynamic between Mrs Shroeder and Nucky. That, for me, was the best plot strand for the whole series.

Roll on series 2.


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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 7/12/2010 8:16:19 PM   
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Yeah loved it also. I can see people being a bit underwhelmed by it in all honesty. It's slow as fuck at times, and there isnt that much action (though when there is it's very good). Loved the shades of Godfather with the despatching of D'allasio (?) brothers, loved Nucky opening up to Margaret about the death of his kid and loved Van Aldens face when Lucy Danzinger told him she was preggers .

As above, Roll on series 2...and more Richard Harrow hopefully

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 8/12/2010 2:01:53 PM   
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Van Alden... what a Mentalist!

I enjoyed the season. It is a bit slow at times but the tensions between certain characters (jimmy & he's wife, Nucky & he's brother, Van Alden & everyone!) Keeps me interested.

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 8/12/2010 3:18:23 PM   
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I really enjoyed it. Baffled that some people thought it was slow - I thought that it was actually too fast. An awful lot happens in the season and indeed in each episode; it is generally more driven by plot developments than character developments.

The show is generally excellent - it's production values are unparalleled, the acting is uniformly excellent, the script is usually good and they've used history well to inform the plot development. However, I do have some criticisms - I think whilst Nucky and Margaret are wonderfully rounded characters and others who feature less are still well drawn (Rothstein, The Commodore, Lucy, Harrow to name a few), some are a little bit 2-D. Van Alden in particular lacks nuance and Jimmy's endless speeches about 'the war - you weren't there...' etc are a little bit cumbersome and not totally convincing. Nucky's brother is an interesting character who hasn't been explored in enough depth.

These are criticisms that would apply to most TV shows though - you can't do everything perfectly. It's just the kind of thing you notice after watching flawless character-driven drama such as Mad Men, the narrative of which, flows a bit better than Boardwalk Empire. There are tines during Boardwalk Empire that you see some of the strings being pulled by writers over the characters so that they perform their arcs through scenes which are slick, but through stages which are a leeetle bit stilted.

As I said though, it's still a must-see TV, the best thing HBO has shown since The Wire and the best new show I've seen since Mad Men.

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 8/12/2010 5:38:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

I really enjoyed it. Baffled that some people thought it was slow - I thought that it was actually too fast. An awful lot happens in the season and indeed in each episode; it is generally more driven by plot developments than character developments.

The show is generally excellent - it's production values are unparalleled, the acting is uniformly excellent, the script is usually good and they've used history well to inform the plot development. However, I do have some criticisms - I think whilst Nucky and Margaret are wonderfully rounded characters and others who feature less are still well drawn (Rothstein, The Commodore, Lucy, Harrow to name a few), some are a little bit 2-D. Van Alden in particular lacks nuance and Jimmy's endless speeches about 'the war - you weren't there...' etc are a little bit cumbersome and not totally convincing. Nucky's brother is an interesting character who hasn't been explored in enough depth.

These are criticisms that would apply to most TV shows though - you can't do everything perfectly. It's just the kind of thing you notice after watching flawless character-driven drama such as Mad Men, the narrative of which, flows a bit better than Boardwalk Empire. There are tines during Boardwalk Empire that you see some of the strings being pulled by writers over the characters so that they perform their arcs through scenes which are slick, but through stages which are a leeetle bit stilted.

As I said though, it's still a must-see TV, the best thing HBO has shown since The Wire and the best new show I've seen since Mad Men.


really? I was talking about in terms of action...i think some people will be expecting The Untouchables crammed into an hour episode week after week! I too have thoroughly enjoyed it, and saying it was a bit slow wasn't a criticism from me. It needed to flesh out the characters. I do agree that there were maybe a few too many introduced and not explored as much. Nucky relationship with his brother (and father) was hinted at but the let down for me (let down is perhaps to strong) was Chalky White. I do expect we'll see a lot more of him next time round though.


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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 8/12/2010 7:15:14 PM   
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really? I was talking about in terms of action...i think some people will be expecting The Untouchables crammed into an hour episode week after week! I too have thoroughly enjoyed it, and saying it was a bit slow wasn't a criticism from me. It needed to flesh out the characters. I do agree that there were maybe a few too many introduced and not explored as much. Nucky relationship with his brother (and father) was hinted at but the let down for me (let down is perhaps to strong) was Chalky White. I do expect we'll see a lot more of him next time round though.

"We'd definitely like to give more to Michael Kenneth Williams. Chalky was going to be a character we would only meet a little bit this season. That played out exactly as I intended, but he's just so great, I can't wait for his story to expand - and it will next season, quite a bit. But I kind of knew I'd feel that way as it was happening, but that character's arc was by design. It was almost more the appetizer than the entree, but now we'll have a lot more of him."


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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 9/12/2010 10:40:16 PM   
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Finished watching the first season the day before yesterday, these are my thoughts on the first season:

Boardwalk Empire - Season 1
The potential that the pilot showed back in september fully comes to live.
As is the case with more HBO shows, in some episodes there doesn`t happen a lot at first sight but that is exactly what makes it so great: that concealed tension, the slowly and easy photography and the excellently fitting music in combination with the strong story lines.
Steve Buscemi is magnificent in his first true leading role as the corrupt Nucky Thompson.
All in all HBO has once again delivered a truly brilliant show. Bring on that box so that I can enjoy it all over again, highly anticipating the second season in the meantime.

9,0/10


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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 21/1/2011 11:51:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

I really enjoyed it. Baffled that some people thought it was slow - I thought that it was actually too fast. An awful lot happens in the season and indeed in each episode; it is generally more driven by plot developments than character developments.

The show is generally excellent - it's production values are unparalleled, the acting is uniformly excellent, the script is usually good and they've used history well to inform the plot development. However, I do have some criticisms - I think whilst Nucky and Margaret are wonderfully rounded characters and others who feature less are still well drawn (Rothstein, The Commodore, Lucy, Harrow to name a few), some are a little bit 2-D. Van Alden in particular lacks nuance and Jimmy's endless speeches about 'the war - you weren't there...' etc are a little bit cumbersome and not totally convincing. Nucky's brother is an interesting character who hasn't been explored in enough depth.

These are criticisms that would apply to most TV shows though - you can't do everything perfectly. It's just the kind of thing you notice after watching flawless character-driven drama such as Mad Men, the narrative of which, flows a bit better than Boardwalk Empire. There are tines during Boardwalk Empire that you see some of the strings being pulled by writers over the characters so that they perform their arcs through scenes which are slick, but through stages which are a leeetle bit stilted.

As I said though, it's still a must-see TV, the best thing HBO has shown since The Wire and the best new show I've seen since Mad Men.


I agree, it wasn't slow, theres a lot of detail to get in hence the show has to move at a certain pace.

Nucky & Maggie are great characters & I like how they developed. Provided they don't cancel the show I can see the character arcs getting better and better in future seasons.

I found Mad Men turgid, especially the first two seasons where literally nothing happened. The third season was better
paced and had more stuff going on I have yet to watch S4, but I enjoyed ' Boardwalk Empire' a lot more.

I like how at the end of the final episode they were setting up stuff for season 2, Danziger & Van Alden, The scheming between The Commodore Jimmy, & Nuckys brother.

Heres to season 2.

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RE: Martin Scorsese presents 'Boardwalk Empire' (HBO) - 2/2/2011 3:21:15 PM   
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Being a Virgin Media customer screwed over (yet again) by Sky, I decided to approach my American aunt for this show and have spent the last few nights catching up with it. 

After the credits rose on the last episode, I can honestly say that I haven't been as impressed by a show's first season since West Wing.  This is quality TV - high production values all round, and a storyline and cast second to none. The montage at the end has me positively salivating for Season 2!

It has a labrynthine plot and only 12 episodes per season in which to develop it, so it is inevitable there were some underused characters.  For my money, I can't wait to see more of Chalky and Richard Harrow in the next season - the latter in particular being a brilliantly complex character, one minute he's showing his reserved but gentle side with Mrs Schroder's kids, the next he's offering to slaughter the D'Allessios' mother, sisters and civilian brother just to flush them out.  And speaking of the Pennsylvanian psychos, their dispatch was something Coppola could have been proud of.

Another thing I love about the show is (like the West Wing) how quotable it is!

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 27/6/2011 5:27:22 PM   
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Season 2 trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB7uJWUpLqE

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 28/9/2011 7:59:33 PM   
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SEASON TWO DISCUSSION STARTS HERE....................................................................


Cracking opener, gently leading us into the second season with a KKK-led massacre, and the arrest of Nucky.

As with last year, I'll be looking forward to this every week.


As a curious aside, interesting to realise this is set just 6-8 years after the time in which Downton Abbey is set...


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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 28/9/2011 8:04:08 PM   
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As a curious aside, interesting to realise this is set just 6-8 years after the time in which Downton Abbey is set...



The crossover potential is huge.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 28/9/2011 8:05:02 PM   
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As a curious aside, interesting to realise this is set just 6-8 years after the time in which Downton Abbey is set...



The crossover potential is huge.



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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 10/10/2011 12:08:33 PM   
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Just catching up with all my stories and the opening to Season 2 was fantastic especially the takedown of the restaurant during the anniversary dinner.

God, I've missed this show.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 10/10/2011 1:18:38 PM   
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Didn't really get into last night's episode, apart from the last 10-15 minutes.


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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 12:04:22 PM   
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Just watched the second episode and it's Stardust's Charlie Cox! I was wondering what had happened to him.

Also is it a new actor as the Commodore? I know he dyed his hair, but he looked completely different.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 12:09:48 PM   
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Quite enjoyed episode 3 although I'm already bored with the pregnancy storyline. Was never keen on Lucy Danziger as a character in the first sseries though so maybe that's just me.

Really liking this series so far though. Got a feeling that Jimmy will turncoat on his father and side with Nucky by the end of the series. Poor Eli's been conned by the Commodore (who's decision it was to run another candidate for Sheriff) and as a result will probably get destroyed by his brother.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 12:49:38 PM   
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Eli is just dim witted, Nucky will give him something which makes him feel important and he will be back on side. Both him and Jimmy left because they felt dismissed by Nucky - it is an ego thing.

And whats the deal with Jimmy and his mother? Jimmy's wife keeps throwing them dirty looks.


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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 3:28:32 PM   
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And whats the deal with Jimmy and his mother? Jimmy's wife keeps throwing them dirty looks.



His wife was complaining in episode 1 that Jimmy's mother is too involved in their lives and making his decisions for him/undercutting her. I think she was telling her how to raise her kids as well at one point. They seem to be setting up a conflict for Jimmy as his wife supports Nucky and his mother favours his father (in spite of the rather terrible things he did to her!)

This season has been great so far. Much better paced than S1 and a lot more intriguing to boot. I find the Irish stuff quite interesting as well, especially the scenes between Margaret (from the south) and that new Irish guy from the north and the hint that there might be some animosity or a threat there. I've seen a few criticisms of MacDonald's accent as well but I think it's really rather good; the Kerry accent ain't the easiest and she pulls it off quite well.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 4:14:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

And whats the deal with Jimmy and his mother? Jimmy's wife keeps throwing them dirty looks.



His wife was complaining in episode 1 that Jimmy's mother is too involved in their lives and making his decisions for him/undercutting her. I think she was telling her how to raise her kids as well at one point. They seem to be setting up a conflict for Jimmy as his wife supports Nucky and his mother favours his father (in spite of the rather terrible things he did to her!)

This season has been great so far. Much better paced than S1 and a lot more intriguing to boot. I find the Irish stuff quite interesting as well, especially the scenes between Margaret (from the south) and that new Irish guy from the north and the hint that there might be some animosity or a threat there. I've seen a few criticisms of MacDonald's accent as well but I think it's really rather good; the Kerry accent ain't the easiest and she pulls it off quite well.



His mum is damaged goods for sure. The bit in episode 2 (I think) where she said she used to kiss little Jimmy's pee pee when she changed his nappy was a bit fucked up to say the least. I'm kinda having a hard time believing that Jimmy would resent Nucky more than the Commodore when it comes to his mother. That's why I'm fairly convinced Jimmy's going to do the right thing and turncoat on his dad.

Loved the scene between Owen Sleater and Richard Harrow. Got a feeling shit's gonna get real between them at some point.

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 4:28:09 PM   
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Harlow and Slater teaming up with Capone - they would have taken everything over in like a day. 

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 5:25:23 PM   
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I thought it was a slow first episode... Jimmy will be back on side in no time at all me thinks...

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 12/10/2011 6:19:24 PM   
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http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/hbo-renews-boardwalk-empire-for-season-3/

Yay!


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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 13/10/2011 12:41:36 PM   
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Boardwalk Empire Season One finally available to pre-order on Blu-Ray!

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RE: Boardwalk Empire: Season 2 - 14/10/2011 12:42:58 PM   
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