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ORIGINAL: Timon

When did Jimmy's mother realise that her new lover was out to get her son and what were the Feds doing there when Jimmy was leading him out?

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ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

I really enjoyed it. Baffled that some people thought it was slow - I thought that it was actually too fast. An awful lot happens in the season and indeed in each episode; it is generally more driven by plot developments than character developments.

The show is generally excellent - it's production values are unparalleled, the acting is uniformly excellent, the script is usually good and they've used history well to inform the plot development. However, I do have some criticisms - I think whilst Nucky and Margaret are wonderfully rounded characters and others who feature less are still well drawn (Rothstein, The Commodore, Lucy, Harrow to name a few), some are a little bit 2-D. Van Alden in particular lacks nuance and Jimmy's endless speeches about 'the war - you weren't there...' etc are a little bit cumbersome and not totally convincing. Nucky's brother is an interesting character who hasn't been explored in enough depth.

These are criticisms that would apply to most TV shows though - you can't do everything perfectly. It's just the kind of thing you notice after watching flawless character-driven drama such as Mad Men, the narrative of which, flows a bit better than Boardwalk Empire. There are tines during Boardwalk Empire that you see some of the strings being pulled by writers over the characters so that they perform their arcs through scenes which are slick, but through stages which are a leeetle bit stilted.

As I said though, it's still a must-see TV, the best thing HBO has shown since The Wire and the best new show I've seen since Mad Men.

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really? I was talking about in terms of action...i think some people will be expecting The Untouchables crammed into an hour episode week after week! I too have thoroughly enjoyed it, and saying it was a bit slow wasn't a criticism from me. It needed to flesh out the characters. I do agree that there were maybe a few too many introduced and not explored as much. Nucky relationship with his brother (and father) was hinted at but the let down for me (let down is perhaps to strong) was Chalky White. I do expect we'll see a lot more of him next time round though.

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ORIGINAL: Giant Green Rabbit

I really enjoyed it. Baffled that some people thought it was slow - I thought that it was actually too fast. An awful lot happens in the season and indeed in each episode; it is generally more driven by plot developments than character developments.

The show is generally excellent - it's production values are unparalleled, the acting is uniformly excellent, the script is usually good and they've used history well to inform the plot development. However, I do have some criticisms - I think whilst Nucky and Margaret are wonderfully rounded characters and others who feature less are still well drawn (Rothstein, The Commodore, Lucy, Harrow to name a few), some are a little bit 2-D. Van Alden in particular lacks nuance and Jimmy's endless speeches about 'the war - you weren't there...' etc are a little bit cumbersome and not totally convincing. Nucky's brother is an interesting character who hasn't been explored in enough depth.

These are criticisms that would apply to most TV shows though - you can't do everything perfectly. It's just the kind of thing you notice after watching flawless character-driven drama such as Mad Men, the narrative of which, flows a bit better than Boardwalk Empire. There are tines during Boardwalk Empire that you see some of the strings being pulled by writers over the characters so that they perform their arcs through scenes which are slick, but through stages which are a leeetle bit stilted.

As I said though, it's still a must-see TV, the best thing HBO has shown since The Wire and the best new show I've seen since Mad Men.

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"There was a man once. I don't recall his name. Frequented the billiard palace downtown. He made a comfortable wagering whether or not he could swallow certain objects, billiard balls being a specialty. He'd take a ball, stick it in his gullet and regurgitate it. One day, I decided to challenge this man. Ten thousand dollars to do the trick with a billiard ball of my choosing. Now he knew I had seen him do this trick at least a dozen times so I can only surmise that he thought I was stupid. I laid out the cash and he swallowed the ball. It lodged in his throat and he choked to death right on the spot. What I knew and he didn't was that the billiard ball was one sixteenth of an inch larger than the other balls, just too large for him to swallow. Do you know what the moral of this tale is, Mr.Yale?"
"Don't eat a cue ball?"
"The moral of the story is: If I'd cause a stranger to choke to death for my own amusement, what do you think I'll do to you if you don't tell me who ordered you to kill Collisimo?"

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ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

As a curious aside, interesting to realise this is set just 6-8 years after the time in which Downton Abbey is set...

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I would plough my way through MonsterCat

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I desire MonsterCat to go down on me.

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As a curious aside, interesting to realise this is set just 6-8 years after the time in which Downton Abbey is set...

The crossover potential is huge.

That deep-browed Homer ruled as his demesne.


TREK WARS

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

And whats the deal with Jimmy and his mother? Jimmy's wife keeps throwing them dirty looks.

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ORIGINAL: furrybastard

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

And whats the deal with Jimmy and his mother? Jimmy's wife keeps throwing them dirty looks.

His wife was complaining in episode 1 that Jimmy's mother is too involved in their lives and making his decisions for him/undercutting her. I think she was telling her how to raise her kids as well at one point. They seem to be setting up a conflict for Jimmy as his wife supports Nucky and his mother favours his father (in spite of the rather terrible things he did to her!)

This season has been great so far. Much better paced than S1 and a lot more intriguing to boot. I find the Irish stuff quite interesting as well, especially the scenes between Margaret (from the south) and that new Irish guy from the north and the hint that there might be some animosity or a threat there. I've seen a few criticisms of MacDonald's accent as well but I think it's really rather good; the Kerry accent ain't the easiest and she pulls it off quite well.