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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 7/12/2011 4:03:45 PM   
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I can get to my nearest Cineworld in 17 mins if the traffic lights are with me! (or an hour and 20 mins if I want to go to the Cineworld in the O2)

I don't normally bother with 3D and tend to chose the 2D version but I might make the effort for Hugo.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 7/12/2011 4:09:52 PM   
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10 minute walk or 3 minutes in the car (yes I am a c**t).

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 7/12/2011 4:12:03 PM   
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10 minute walk or 3 minutes in the car (yes I am a c**t).


Only the bit in brackets was necessary

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 7/12/2011 6:50:37 PM   
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10 minute walk or 3 minutes in the car (yes I am a c**t).


Only the bit in brackets was necessary


I'll put you in brackets!

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 7/12/2011 7:19:04 PM   
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10 minute walk or 3 minutes in the car (yes I am a c**t).


Only the bit in brackets was necessary


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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 8/12/2011 10:56:47 AM   
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I'm off to see Hugo tonight and it sounds like it's worth the extra... Plus at my local cinema once you've bought the 3D glasses you get to keep them so you don't have to fork out every single time. My basic view is I'm all for it if the film is shot as being intended for 3D (e.g. Hugo) but find the recent slavish desire to convert films in the editing suite as an afterthought annoying and pointless. There are also some films which 3D enhances more than others - the Asgard scenes in Thor for example are enhanced, but I don't really remember anything about Captain America which benefited (and I confess I'm not sure as to whether those two films were intended for 3D or converted as an afterthought.)

I agree with the trend about limiting the amount of choice between 2D and 3D, and it's exacerbated when it comes to kids' films. I have a 4-year-old who loves going to the cinema but I know I've got no bloody chance of keeping a pair of glasses on her head for an hour and a half. But then it's more difficult to find a suitable screening because they don't show as many 2D performances. Also she really wanted to see The Lion King at the cinema when it was re-released but could I find a 2D showing? Could I buggery.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 9/12/2011 10:19:29 AM   
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Saw Hugo last night and came away more excited about the possibilities of 3D than ever before. I know there was a poster earlier on who thought the 3D didn't add anything but I can't agree with that for the moment - the medium gives a huge sense of structure and space to the whole film and really opens it out. Some of the shots Scorsese used (one where Sacha Baron Cohen is threatening the two kids and leaning forward to seem more imposing is a great example) are tailored to 3D perfectly and make the whole thing more of an experience.

For me it's a great magical film anyway but I do think it would lose something in plain old 2D so encourage you all to see it at the cinema in the medium Scorsese intended if at all possible.

Having said all that, now that I'm more sure about the possibilities 3D presents, the more angry I am likely to get at hacks converting their films post-shoot.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 9/12/2011 10:27:20 AM   
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Saw Hugo last night and came away more excited about the possibilities of 3D than ever before. I know there was a poster earlier on who thought the 3D didn't add anything but I can't agree with that for the moment - the medium gives a huge sense of structure and space to the whole film and really opens it out. Some of the shots Scorsese used (one where Sacha Baron Cohen is threatening the two kids and leaning forward to seem more imposing is a great example) are tailored to 3D perfectly and make the whole thing more of an experience.



I agree that the 3D was excellent, by far the best I've seen, but that scene you mention was, for me, one of the weakest aspects. There was a definite secondary, admittedly slight, image of Cohen just to the right of the main image, and it looked horribly weird. And I wish they'd get 3D specs that fit properly over my own glasses.




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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 9/12/2011 10:59:01 AM   
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I have the same problem putting the specs on over my glasses. Very uncomfortable and annoying at times.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 9/12/2011 11:34:39 AM   
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Yep - have to agree about the double-glasses issue! I think they need clip-on lenses to give that full Ed Rooney vibe.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 9/12/2011 11:42:46 AM   
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Or prescription 3D glasses

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 10/12/2011 1:33:58 AM   
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Or prescription 3D glasses


Apparently James Cameron and Peter Jackson have custom 3D contact lenses.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 10/12/2011 1:54:01 AM   
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Yep - have to agree about the double-glasses issue! I think they need clip-on lenses to give that full Ed Rooney vibe.


Scorsese himself seems to have gone for that look.




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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 10/12/2011 12:25:53 PM   
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the dr's defence of his positive review for 'hugo' to mayo was v funny.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017pctl/Kermode_and_Mayos_Film_Review_09_12_2011/

go write a paper on it!

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 3/1/2012 2:32:12 PM   
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empire awards do a best 3 d movie award.
love to see the dr's face.......

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 3/1/2012 6:05:17 PM   
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I only had the 3D option for Hugo at my local cinema.  It was the best 3D film I've seen so far - the screen wasn't so bloody dark which was a good start. But it didn't make me go 'wow' or add anything to the film. I kinda forgot it was in 3D at all actually... 

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 3/1/2012 6:08:14 PM   
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Was there a 2D option anywhere for Hugo on initial release?  There wasn't one where I am and it was showing in 4 different cinemas.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 3/1/2012 6:20:29 PM   
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Was there a 2D option anywhere for Hugo on initial release?  There wasn't one where I am and it was showing in 4 different cinemas.




Yep, I saw it back to back in 3D and 2D on day of release at my local Cineworld.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 16/1/2012 12:00:38 PM   
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3 d in 2012-

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/story/2012-01-12/coming-to-3d-star-wars-titanic-finding-nemo-beauty-beast/52523202/1

hey, don't fads disapper after a while?

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 18/1/2012 11:19:33 AM   
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Saying that 3D is still the future because The Lion King re-release did so well is just silly: that film would make millions regardless of how many dimensions it was showed in.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott - 18/1/2012 12:40:02 PM   
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3 d in 2012-

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/story/2012-01-12/coming-to-3d-star-wars-titanic-finding-nemo-beauty-beast/52523202/1

hey, don't fads disapper after a while?


Not when there's potential money still to be made. And this is not a reason to celebrate anything.

Plus I still think Cameron exploiting the centenery of the Titanic disaster like this is a tad tasteless.



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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 20/1/2012 11:11:11 AM   
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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 20/1/2012 11:29:17 AM   
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http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/weaver-films-eventually-3d-090100463.html

'game over, man, game over!!!'


Far from over. And as much as I respect Weaver I think she's talking bollocks.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 20/1/2012 1:30:37 PM   
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http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/weaver-films-eventually-3d-090100463.html

'game over, man, game over!!!'


Far from over. And as much as I respect Weaver I think she's talking bollocks.


she must have faith that cameron will change the game again by time 'avatar 2' comes out.

found a observer article mentioning rise of 3 d and cameron planning 'avatar' in cupboard from 2004!

so much for fad.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 20/1/2012 2:18:27 PM   
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http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/weaver-films-eventually-3d-090100463.html

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Far from over. And as much as I respect Weaver I think she's talking bollocks.


found a observer article mentioning rise of 3 d and cameron planning 'avatar' in cupboard from 2004!


I don't know what this means.

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so much for fad.


It is a fad, and I have seen little evidence to suggest otherwise.



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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 21/1/2012 12:29:35 PM   
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Far from over. And as much as I respect Weaver I think she's talking bollocks.


found a observer article mentioning rise of 3 d and cameron planning 'avatar' in cupboard from 2004!


I don't know what this means.

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so much for fad.


It is a fad, and I have seen little evidence to suggest otherwise.





how can it be a fad when they were starting to release 3 d films in 3 d imax, as far back as 2004?

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 21/1/2012 1:43:47 PM   
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Six years is still a relatively short amount of time, if all films were 3D and welcomed as such by now I'd say the fad is over, but they're not on both accounts. I still go out of my way to find a 2D film as it's a more comfortable watch for me and my son.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 21/1/2012 3:18:51 PM   
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how can it be a fad when they were starting to release 3 d films in 3 d imax, as far back as 2004?


I didn't even know at the time that 3D films were being released back in 2004, and I'd wager not that many other people knew about it either. This is hardly indicative of something which isn't like a fad. Only in 2009 with Avatar were most people suddenly aware of 3D, and it was the 3D alone that assured that film its massive fortune, little else. No other film, whether filmed in "proper" 3D or retro-fitted 3D has equalled its fortunes. As for Transformers 3 it would've made money regardless of what dimension it was filmed in, being part of a successfull franchise. Same with Potter and Pirates. And it'll be the same with Hobbit and Star Trek. It's all about the dosh. Scorcese attempted to prove otherwise by using it as an essential, almost Brechtian tool, but Hugo flopped as a result. Because the movie was not part of an established franchise. The 3D alone couldn't sell it.

All about the money, hence the current trend of spending millions on retro-fitting modern classics. I'm not saying that 3D will just suddenly disappear, but I see no evidence that it will overtake the mainstream anytime soon.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 23/1/2012 11:39:48 AM   
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how can it be a fad when they were starting to release 3 d films in 3 d imax, as far back as 2004?


I didn't even know at the time that 3D films were being released back in 2004, and I'd wager not that many other people knew about it either. This is hardly indicative of something which isn't like a fad. Only in 2009 with Avatar were most people suddenly aware of 3D, and it was the 3D alone that assured that film its massive fortune, little else. No other film, whether filmed in "proper" 3D or retro-fitted 3D has equalled its fortunes. As for Transformers 3 it would've made money regardless of what dimension it was filmed in, being part of a successfull franchise. Same with Potter and Pirates. And it'll be the same with Hobbit and Star Trek. It's all about the dosh. Scorcese attempted to prove otherwise by using it as an essential, almost Brechtian tool, but Hugo flopped as a result. Because the movie was not part of an established franchise. The 3D alone couldn't sell it.

All about the money, hence the current trend of spending millions on retro-fitting modern classics. I'm not saying that 3D will just suddenly disappear, but I see no evidence that it will overtake the mainstream anytime soon.



actually 3 d was doing well at BO before 'avatar' with films like 'monsters v aliens' .

'hugo' and 'tin tin' failed because of a 3 d backlash in US and because there was no buzz/promotion campaign to get audiences out to see films based on content unfamiliar in US.

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RE: Mark Kermode's 3 D Boycott & General 3-D Discussion - 23/1/2012 12:36:50 PM   
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actually 3 d was doing well at BO before 'avatar' with films like 'monsters v aliens' .


Which came out the same year.

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'hugo' and 'tin tin' failed because of a 3 d backlash in US and because there was no buzz/promotion campaign to get audiences out to see films based on content unfamiliar in US.


Absolutely, they had no established franchise to ride on, not even the names attached seemed to help. 3D alone couldn't sell them. Some people seem to think 3D is some kind of saviour for cinema when it clearly isn't.

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