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Matty_b's top 50 of the decade - the best of the rest. - 4/3/2010 2:52:40 PM   
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Call me a bandwagon jumper, call me a copycat, call me what you like - heck, you can even call me Al. But I'm going ahead with a rundown of my top 50 movies of the decade. I'll try to get them up at a rate of about one or two a day, but clearly life is going to get in the way at some point and I'll not manage that. But hopefully it'll stir up some debate nonetheless. Now unfortunately, I'm not one of these people to be lucky enough to manage a trip to the cinema two or three times a week or catch up on films I've missed as soon as they're out to rent. So I pretty much guarantee that between now and the end of the list I'll have watched something that would have made it on. If I do, I'll list that when I've finished the 50. Needless to say, the mini-reviews and pics may well include spoilers.

So, without further ado...

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 3:04:42 PM   
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50) Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
 


Chan-wook's tale of imprisonment and revenge was one of the most hallucinatory experiences of the decade. Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) is a drunken businessman who is suddenly kidnapped for no apparent reason, by complete strangers and imprisoned in a single room...for 15 years. Then, without warning, he's released and he embarks on a mission to find out who is behind his imprisonment and why.

Oldboy has a narrative that is constantly changing track and blindsiding the audience. Just when you think you know where it is going, Chan-wook throws in a curveball and makes you reevaluate just where the film is going. For example, when Dae-su does find out who is behind his incarceration it never plays out where you might predict it might be. Dae-su fills the film with striking, vivid images that help propel the film with the force of a bullet and some dark, cackling humour. From a man being held off a rooftop by his tie to Dae-su taking on a whole corridor full of bodyguards armed only with only a claw hammer, filmed in one astounding take, it's a visual marvel, tied to that rarest of things - a genuinely unpredictable story with a twist that still makes your jaw drop no matter how many times you see it.

Key moment - Dae-su eats a live squid. For reals. Wriggling tentacles and squirting black ink and everything.

Coming next - History be damned, that's what I say.

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 3:10:23 PM   
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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 4:03:51 PM   
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Chan-wook is his surname, btw. Korean names have the family name first, followed by the given name. Family names are nearly always one syllable, given names nearly always 2, seperated with a hyphen.

Sorry if you were already aware of this, and now I look like a dick for pointing it out.


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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 4:05:55 PM   
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No, no, thank you for pointing that out. So it should be...Chan-wook Park? Am I understanding it correctly?

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 4:48:01 PM   
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In East Asian countries, they tend to write / say the name surname first. It then depends on how we treat those names in the West.

In SK (and NK), they'd say Park Chan-wook. Over here, we usually tend to stick to that same ordering, although some sites like IMDb switch the names round so that they're westernised, with given name first - Chan-wook Park.

The same thing happens in China / Hong Kong / Taiwan / Singapore. With Wong Kar Wai, for example, the family name (surname) is Wong. Again, we tend to stick to that ordering. IMDb, though, calls him Kar Wai Wong.

Often, people in the Chinese film industry etc pick an English language first name, so for example over here we know him as Tony Leung, whereas in HK, they know him as Leung Ka Fai. Sometimes, the two are combined so he becomes Tony Leung Ka Fai (especially to avoid confusion with another actor, Tony Leung Chiu Wai).

With Japanese names, they tend to be reversed over here. So the fella we call Akira Kurosawa is known as Kurosawa Akira over there. Kurosawa is the family name. There seems to be a much less of a concerted effort to retain the correct naming convention for Japanese names in the West, and I read that this was because historically, it was common for Japanese people to switch their names round when overseas and western publications simply followed this standard.

Other countries that put the family name first include Cambodia (usually) and Vietnam.

However, in Thailand, Laos and the Philippines, names are in the same order as ours.

Mongolian and Malyasian names are different again, as they don't really have surnames - they use the paternal name instead.

For me, IMDb is wrong, and people should be taught simple rules and naming conventions for specific countries, rather than reversing the names of whole races of people.

Often, you'll see East Asian names helpfully written with the family name capitalised, so you might see:
Yasujirô OZU
MIYAZAKI Hayao
Sammo HUNG Kam-bo

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 4:54:43 PM   
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I'll stick with Park Chan-wook if that's how his native country would say it then.

Damn, a good handful of comments on the first on my list and none of them are for the film

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:02:01 PM   
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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:05:06 PM   
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Marvellous, thank you

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:27:10 PM   
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I haven't seen it, hence my rather glib Paul Simon quote.

It looks a bit too violent for me though.

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:35:38 PM   
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Doubt you'll like the next one then...

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:45:29 PM   
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A History of Violence? Funny Games?

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 5:56:31 PM   
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One of those is 'no', the other is 'not yet'...

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 6:19:50 PM   
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Hmm ultra-violent films of the 00s. There are a fair few...

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 6:22:53 PM   
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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 7:35:41 PM   
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50) Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
 
a genuinely unpredictable story with a twist that still makes your jaw drop no matter how many times you see it.



I think the main thing about the twist is really just how good the reveal is, and how many different things are exposed towards the end of the film. Even if you managed to guess one bit, you will not want to be proven right at the end (I guessed the relationship when Oh Dae-su first stepped into the restaurant just because of how long he had been away, how young she looked, and because you see his daughter at the start). So even though I had that part of the story figured out, within a couple of minutes the film had convinced me I was completely wrong with the way everything had developed, and I think this is the real strength of the film.

Unfortunately, as much as I do love this film, the rest of his films that I have seen all have problems which stop them that stop them from being anywhere near as good as this (Lady vengeance/Thirst/I'm a cyborg).

Great pick though.

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 7:57:22 PM   
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I really need to see some South Korean cinema.

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 9:23:41 PM   
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Oldboy is fantastic. Like with TRM, I have seen nothing from Park... uh, Chan-wook... whatever... that is as good as it (I've seen Sympathy for Lady Vengeance and his segment in Three.... Extremes, which is called Cut).

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 4/3/2010 9:43:36 PM   
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Oldboy is excellent, good choice - though I think I would have it top 5 of the decade!

It's probably got one of the greatest fight scenes I've ever seen.

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 5/3/2010 12:02:50 AM   
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I'll stick with Park Chan-wook if that's how his native country would say it then.



This isn't the first time some of us have had to explain that, and it won't be the last.

Oldboy is great - very dark and Choi Min-sik's performance is exquisite - but it's a little too cruel for my tastes. I much prefer the other Park films I've seen. In order -

Sympathy for Lady Vengeance > Sympathy for Mr Vengeance > Thirst > Joint Security Area > Oldboy


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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. - 6/3/2010 11:01:20 AM   
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Cool, thanks for the recommendations, I haven't seen any of his other work. Next choice should  be up today and should almost certainly split opinion

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. 49 now up! - 6/3/2010 11:43:01 AM   
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39) Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
 


Quentin Tarantino spent much of the decade wasting whatever talent he does have. Both volumes of Kill Bill were dire and Death Proof I'd happily label as one of the worst films of the decade. Yet, just as I was about to write him off for good, he comes back with the raging brilliance of Inglourious Basterds - a film that, like his others of the decade, are just as likely to split an audience right down the middle. But for me, it is this film where he rediscovered the spark of what made his 90s films so memorable, and I don't think it's coincidence that he's had this idea knocking around for around a decade or so. Unlike Kill Bill or Death Proof, the concept doesn't feel forced, and his old gift for interesting dialogue that moves the plot onwards and helps the characters, returns with a vengeance. Take the opening - Colonel Landa (Christoph Waltz) is questioning a French farmer about the whereabouts of a Jewish family hiding from the Nazis. We know that they're hiding under the floorboards, the farmer does and Landa does too - but he plays it brilliantly, tweaking our nerves like piano wire, until the outburst of sudden violence that ends this scene almost comes like a blessed relief. We see this trick again later where a number of the Basterds, undercover as Nazi officers, find themselves trapped in a bar full of the genuine article, and the dialogue moves the plot on and shifts the power relationship from character to character brilliantly, until once more the tension explodes violently. The Basterds themselves are pretty peripheral to the story, the main focus being Shoshanna's (Melanie Laurent) plan for revenge against Landa and the Nazis. That her plan should revolve around a cinema should come as no surprise, as should the fact that at this point Tarantino throws the history book out of the window for a bloody, vivid finale that displays that when he wants to, his grasp of the visual dynamics of film can be as incendiary as his grasp of dialogue. I may well hate his next film; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I do. But Inglourious Basterds is proof that he will always retain the capacity to shock me into believing his own sense of brilliance.

Key moment - Landa, knowing full well that the Basterds have sneaked into Shosanna's cinema disguised as Italian film-makers, hilariously destroys their limited Italian over and over again.

Up next - A British rom-com

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. 49 now up! - 6/3/2010 11:45:17 AM   
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Great choice, would easy be in my top 5 of the decade.

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Ta! Man, I hope the final 5 doesn't disappoint as I seem to be picking some people's favourites quite early...

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Don't act like you don't love it; it means you get to bust out your thesaurus again


But if I say that it doesn't deserve a place on a list of the best of the decade, that means I'm against you guys, but I like the film, which means I'm against everyone else.

Pure and simple, when it comes to Basterds, I'm fucked.


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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. 49 now up! - 6/3/2010 12:16:46 PM   
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Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
 


Both volumes of Kill Bill were dire

No.

Good review otherwise

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RE: Matty_b's top 50 of the decade. 49 now up! - 6/3/2010 12:41:04 PM   
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Both volumes of Kill Bill were dire

No.

Good review otherwise


Yes. Wow, that was easy  Thanks, though

And...maybe.

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