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why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 1:26:48 PM   
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not a low budget tv show but give it a decent budget and make a film (keeping it british like Potter or Bond but made with american money, big studio) - do away with alot of the manic technobabble and campy kiddie tone and make it more like i dunno - Back the the Future with aliens or something...get back to the timetravel aspect of it all.

they tried to do something like that with the 1996 tv movie with Eric Roberts but it didnt really work..

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 1:43:27 PM   
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Because it is, and always will be, a TV show. And in my opinion is all the better for it. I don't think a film version would work.

Also, isn't Doctor Who one of the biggest budget British TV show's?

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 1:52:51 PM   
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If your going to request american finance to support a very British instituion then you need to make it with american audience sensibilities which goes against all that Dr Who stands for, it's beauty exists in it's confined but warmly received limitations, and as jc says, it works with it's heritage because it plays too it's strengths, get some americcan producers on board and you'll see the Dr we know broken up and made into a product unrecognisable from it's roots for an mass audience that don't care or understand it's foundations.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 1:52:54 PM   
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They made two Doctor Who movies in the 1960s.

The best think about the show is that week in, week out each adventure can be totally different from the other. Now, that is not to say you could not do a Doctor Who movie like that, but three years for a single adevnture is hardly keeping in with the feel of the character.

And the 1990s movie was a pilot. Really need to see that again.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 1:57:12 PM   
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The 8th Doctor telemovie was on a few weeks ago on Watch.

I watched it, and thought it was pretty awful. Epitomised everything I believe would be wrong with what the first post is suggesting.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 2:02:30 PM   
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Also - the new show has done some great stuff with time travel - look at Blink. The show is pretty varied in tone, sometimes campy and goofy, and sometimes serious and thoughtful. That is what is so great about the show.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 3:03:08 PM   
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Because it is, and always will be, a TV show. And in my opinion is all the better for it. I don't think a film version would work.



star trek?

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 3:44:14 PM   
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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 5:22:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jcthefirst

Because it is, and always will be, a TV show. And in my opinion is all the better for it. I don't think a film version would work.

Also, isn't Doctor Who one of the biggest budget British TV show's?


Yes doctor who is one of the most expensive british TV shows and I have to wonder where the budget goes as it looks cheap and nasty a lot of the time.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 5:29:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jackcarter

not a low budget tv show but give it a decent budget and make a film (keeping it british like Potter or Bond but made with american money, big studio) - do away with alot of the manic technobabble and campy kiddie tone and make it more like i dunno - Back the the Future with aliens or something...get back to the timetravel aspect of it all.

they tried to do something like that with the 1996 tv movie with Eric Roberts but it didnt really work..


OK. So. You have a big mac right? A big mac has all this dressing that makes it taste nice, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, two patties, and all between toasted bread buns. except you don't like veg. So. you take out the lettuce and tomatoes, and the pickles, and then discover that you're lactose intolerant - so you take away the cheese. so you've taken away the cheese, when you realise you're not all that hungry, and so open the burger and take out the meat pattie.

Is it still a big mac, jack? No jack, it isn't. It most certainly i snot a big mac, it's just an ordinary shitty burger with none of the things that make it mildly enjoyable considering it's a transfat loaded piece of turd from an evil megacorporation.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 5:41:33 PM   
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the reason why won't make a good movie of doctor who, because it would be like the series that had tennant in it but longer, they would bring the daleks in the movie and he would forgive davros and give him a hug. But what would be good movieplot is a more menacing master who is really evil not like john simms who just laughed all the time and used sith lightning to kill random people but someone who can really test the doctor's abilities and perhaps be a bit more darker than he has been.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 5:51:13 PM   
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I suppose I am just wondering - why?

Why a movie? And why a movie that would take away many of the things that makes Doctor Who the show that it is. It is a bit campy, it is a bit silly and the kids love it.

You would be making a movie where the hero doesn't fight, and tries his best to help both friend and foe. Its not really a simply sell for a big multi million pound movie.

I would rather have a TV show that tried for the stars and didn't always win, than a big budget movie that would dilute what makes the show so popular.

Also, Blink is one of the best time travel stories out there.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 6:33:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: relativelyrelative

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ORIGINAL: jackcarter

not a low budget tv show but give it a decent budget and make a film (keeping it british like Potter or Bond but made with american money, big studio) - do away with alot of the manic technobabble and campy kiddie tone and make it more like i dunno - Back the the Future with aliens or something...get back to the timetravel aspect of it all.

they tried to do something like that with the 1996 tv movie with Eric Roberts but it didnt really work..


OK. So. You have a big mac right? A big mac has all this dressing that makes it taste nice, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, two patties, and all between toasted bread buns. except you don't like veg. So. you take out the lettuce and tomatoes, and the pickles, and then discover that you're lactose intolerant - so you take away the cheese. so you've taken away the cheese, when you realise you're not all that hungry, and so open the burger and take out the meat pattie.

Is it still a big mac, jack? No jack, it isn't. It most certainly i snot a big mac, it's just an ordinary shitty burger with none of the things that make it mildly enjoyable considering it's a transfat loaded piece of turd from an evil megacorporation.



It's wasn't a big mac in the first place, they don't have tomatoes.

Surely a movie will happen one day? i mean look at Hitch Hikers guide. That was ok, kind of half way between British and American.


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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 7:18:19 PM   
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It's wasn't a big mac in the first place, they don't have tomatoes.

Surely a movie will happen one day? i mean look at Hitch Hikers guide. That was ok, kind of half way between British and American.



yes thats what id expect if they ever do a Who movie - big studio, biggish budget, state of the art FX, british actor headlining, the odd biggish name star supporting, british director and writers etc...cameos from the odd previous Dr Who actors etc

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 7:23:47 PM   
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Again - why?

They already tell some great time travel stories. What does more money and American actors bring to Who?

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 9:04:23 PM   
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Again - why?

They already tell some great time travel stories. What does more money and American actors bring to Who?


Who on a bigger scale - like the star trek movies


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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 1/3/2010 11:41:52 PM   
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...because Dr Who is balls...

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 1:19:46 AM   
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Also, Blink is one of the best time travel stories out there.




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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 10:18:28 AM   
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It's the best science-fiction series ever, why mess with a winning formula?

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 11:54:35 AM   
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It's the best science-fiction series ever, why mess with a winning formula?


every series turns into a movie eventually - why should Who miss out?


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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 12:33:21 PM   
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Again - why?

They already tell some great time travel stories. What does more money and American actors bring to Who?


Who on a bigger scale - like the star trek movies




i like the trek movies but accept that they are more action orientated than the OS or TNG shows so lose the more contempletive ideas of the tv eps. plus they just don't do any exploring of 'strange, new worlds' on the big screen either.

think they might do the same to 'dr who to make it more accessible to mainstream US audience.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 3:25:20 PM   
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It's the best science-fiction series ever, why mess with a winning formula?


every series turns into a movie eventually - why should Who miss out?




Because it doesn't need to, television as a medium is the equal of cinema these days if not the superior given the recent standard of output of the two. A film would be just for the sake of having a film, plus you would be under pressure immediately to make sure you use an iconic villain like the Daleks etc and what would you do with them that hasn't already been done before?

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 4:22:28 PM   
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I actually don't think it's that bad an idea. They did it for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I thought the film was a lot of fun. Besides, if we're honest, Dr Who is pretty nonsensical, boring and overall poorly acted and executed (please don't hurt me). In the past it definitely had a kind of campy charm, like the old Star Trek or Batman series, but now it's just dull. A film could make it more than what it is and perhaps fix some of its inherent flaws.

Just a thought.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 4:35:38 PM   
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I actually don't think it's that bad an idea. They did it for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I thought the film was a lot of fun. Besides, if we're honest, Dr Who is pretty nonsensical, boring and overall poorly acted and executed (please don't hurt me). In the past it definitely had a kind of campy charm, like the old Star Trek or Batman series, but now it's just dull. A film could make it more than what it is and perhaps fix some of its inherent flaws.

Just a thought.


Why would you want to see a film of something that you find nonsensical, boring, poorly acted and executed?


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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 2/3/2010 7:12:20 PM   
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I actually don't think it's that bad an idea. They did it for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I thought the film was a lot of fun. Besides, if we're honest, Dr Who is pretty nonsensical, boring and overall poorly acted and executed (please don't hurt me). In the past it definitely had a kind of campy charm, like the old Star Trek or Batman series, but now it's just dull. A film could make it more than what it is and perhaps fix some of its inherent flaws.

Just a thought.


Why would you want to see a film of something that you find nonsensical, boring, poorly acted and executed?



like star trek the concept is great...it deserves to be done on a much grander scale

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 3/3/2010 12:30:46 AM   
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erm...because Dr Who is balls...still

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 3/3/2010 1:49:07 AM   
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quote:

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I actually don't think it's that bad an idea. They did it for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I thought the film was a lot of fun. Besides, if we're honest, Dr Who is pretty nonsensical, boring and overall poorly acted and executed (please don't hurt me). In the past it definitely had a kind of campy charm, like the old Star Trek or Batman series, but now it's just dull. A film could make it more than what it is and perhaps fix some of its inherent flaws.

Just a thought.


Why would you want to see a film of something that you find nonsensical, boring, poorly acted and executed?



As I said before: A film could make it more than what it is and perhaps fix some of its inherent flaws.

If a film somehow manages to do just that, then yes I might give it a go. As it stands with the TV series though, I am indeed not interested.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 3/3/2010 10:13:29 AM   
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So the logic is that we make a massively budgeted film for people who don't like the TV show in the first place? I can't see where that could possibly go wrong.
Plus I, and many more no doubt, would argue that programme doesn't suffer from as many inherent flaws as you say. Since its return in 2005, it's constantly been the best British programme on telly and the tone of it is a key part of the show's charm which for me makes it an inherent strength.
As for the argument that it needs to be done on a grand scale, how much grander does it need to get? In the last few years it has been epic in both grasp and reach. The work that the Mill has done is nothing short of extraordinary, especially for television.

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 3/3/2010 11:24:01 AM   
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Seems to me to be a bit snobby towards tv.  Film isn't inherently better.  It clearly works on TV, why the need for a film? 

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RE: why dont they make a *good* movie version of Dr Who? - 3/3/2010 12:10:41 PM   
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Yeah, i'd watch that!

Dr Who does have a certain amount of charm as a TV series in a similar way to the old Star Trek or Batman TV series, but unlike the other two it has never really had a chance to shine on the Silver Screen and been made into a big budget, star-studded mega movie! I think it has the potential to be a belter!

As stated in the original post, it would be prudent to keep it mainly British (other than the funding) so as not to piss-off the fanboys.........or my dad! but still try to get some well known faces in the lead roles. I liked the Dr Who's with an older gentleman as The Doctor (Sylvester McCoy was my favourite!) so i'm thinking someone like Sean Connery or Anthony Hopkins in the lead role, or if you want to go younger - how about Hugh Laurie or Sean Bean?

Have The Master as the main baddie with some re-imagined Daleks and Cybermen (modernised so they actually look slightly dangerous) for good measure and Bob's your uncle - you've got a big budget Hollywood-esque Dr Who movie! I'm booking my tickets now!

Oh, and the small matter of a half-decent plot as well!...........


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