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The Wolfman - 20/6/2010 10:32:02 PM   
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Ok, Maybe it doesn't deserve 5 but 2! Get real Empire. I subscribed to your magazine for nigh on 5 years but stopped the subscription this year as your reviews are becoming dire!
Back to The Wolfman. When I was a kid I was obsessed by the legend of The Werewolf and loved the old Universal Lon Chaney films, This film took me right back. A good old fashioned gothic horror/love story beautifully shot, great story and the acting? , well that's why it should only get 4 stars but most definately not 2!!!

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RE: The Wolfman - 29/6/2010 10:40:45 AM   
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I watched it last night on DVD, it looks great but has a lot of problems not least the appalling effects at times but there was one sequence that left me baffled, what was the significance of Max Von Sydow's character on the train? I thought the walking cane was going to be some sort of super Wolf slaying weapon at the end.

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RE: The Wolfman - 29/6/2010 12:44:14 PM   
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I guess he was just meant to be an ambigious stranger who sort of had a connection to the legend. Don't understand the hate towards this film. It's one of my favourites of the last few years. Love the effects, story and the look of it. The film is just barking mad and it works in my opinion. One of the alternate endings was mint; the Wolf-woman anyone?? That would have been worth a watch!

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RE: The Wolfman - 29/6/2010 4:42:57 PM   
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It looked like a scene that had been part of a wider story but had been badly edited. If you removed that section on the train it would have made no difference to the rest of the film.

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RE: The Wolfman - 30/6/2010 2:30:37 PM   
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Finally got round to grabbing this (the Extended Cut btw) on Blu Ray and am having trouble seeing where the hate comes from.

It's not perfect but it's solid with good performances from the leads, decent action and scares plus a generally creepy vibe throughout much of it...some ham was present but I particularly enjoyed Hopkins in this, especially his scene in the asylum. Script could have been stronger and the production woes have taken a toil on the overall story - the romantic angle for example feels very "Hollywood" and superfluous to be honest, maybe it would have had a larger focus or been more clearly defined by Romanek's take on things.

Either way I do enjoy either version and think it's great to see an old school horror film that doesn't rely on gimmicks, postmodernism or torture scenes. The period setting is also great and has me really interested to see what Joe Johnston does with Captain America next year, considering how he managed to pull together a decent film from the mess of this production has renewed my faith in him.

3 Stars for theatrical or extended cut

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No Bite - 2/7/2010 9:31:48 AM   
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What a dissapointingly bad film. It is as if the actors (who can act, usually very well) just didn't care about the whole thing whatsoever. Very dull, not interesting, there was just no... bite. I think I will just keep with An American Werewolf In London. Shame.

4/10

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RE: No Bite - 2/7/2010 11:14:46 AM   
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I have to say Del Toro was a spectacularly bad choice for this film. He didn't seem remotely interested and delivered most of his lines as if he really couldn't be bothered. I don't see why he was cast as a member of the British gentry other than he was a big name American actor, was Arnold Schwarzenegger not available?

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RE: No Bite - 2/7/2010 11:49:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

I have to say Del Toro was a spectacularly bad choice for this film. He didn't seem remotely interested and delivered most of his lines as if he really couldn't be bothered. I don't see why he was cast as a member of the British gentry other than he was a big name American actor, was Arnold Schwarzenegger not available?


Wasn't he the main driving force behind this being made? Bit weird that he then didn't put some effort in.

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RE: No Bite - 2/7/2010 12:54:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

I have to say Del Toro was a spectacularly bad choice for this film. He didn't seem remotely interested and delivered most of his lines as if he really couldn't be bothered. I don't see why he was cast as a member of the British gentry other than he was a big name American actor, was Arnold Schwarzenegger not available?


I thought Del Toro was perfectly cast. He looks like a wolf before make-up.

He's not exactly box office gold, either, so I'm not sure why you think him being a big name had anything to do with his casting.

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RE: No Bite - 2/7/2010 3:23:17 PM   
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Got to agree with the last 2 posters.  Del Toro was ace and yeah, I think he was the guy who got the thing running.

I also largely agree with Marwood.  I don't see why the film is slated so heavily.  OK, it wasn't brilliant and as a fan of the original, I was a little dissapointed, but it was a lot better than response led me to believe.  Although, they should have kept the silver knifey cane in!

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RE: No Bite - 2/7/2010 4:28:33 PM   
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Indeed, Del Toro was a driving force in making this. The idea of him playing British gentry was gotten around by the backstory having him sent away at a young age, it's not in the film but apparently after his asylum stay he goes to live with an aunt in America and his acting eventually makes his accent a bit all over the place.

I thought Del Toro was fine, not outstanding but it was a quiet and contemplative performance. I saw it as Lawrence's previous "mental health" problems have made him quite detatched and he's drawn to being an actor because it allows him to escape his life. See? There's context.

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RE: No Bite - 3/7/2010 12:24:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marwood

Indeed, Del Toro was a driving force in making this. The idea of him playing British gentry was gotten around by the backstory having him sent away at a young age, it's not in the film but apparently after his asylum stay he goes to live with an aunt in America and his acting eventually makes his accent a bit all over the place.



This is actually covered in the Extended Cut, which is the only version I've seen. Maybe that's why I thought more highly of it, since it actually made sense.

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RE: No Bite - 3/7/2010 12:32:11 PM   
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I think this is his best performance after the Magnum Gold advert.

lol

No but seriously, I love Del Toro: Che, Fear and Loathing, it's all good. But in this, he just looked tired, like he slept on the set, woke up and started acting.


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Wolfman - 10/7/2010 8:27:30 PM   
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I actually liked it. Good effects, good story. Extended cut is more gorey and violent.

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Wolfman - 10/7/2010 8:27:32 PM   
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I actually liked it. Good effects, good story. Extended cut is more gorey and violent.

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RE: Wolfman - 6/8/2010 10:57:31 AM   
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possibly one of the worse films i have ever seen, was gonna give up after half an hour, just moaned my way through it, came to last half hour and i turned it off, an insult to my intelligence, woefully bad

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RE: Wolfman - 6/8/2010 12:04:15 PM   
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I don't rate it at all but it's mostly down to the ludicrous central casting. Yes I know he was a key player in getting this made but that doesn't change the fact he was all wrong. What's next? Jackie Chan playing Robin Hood?

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RE: Wolfman - 6/8/2010 1:02:04 PM   
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Will Smith playing James Bond?

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RE: Wolfman - 6/8/2010 10:21:55 PM   
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Perplexing.

Beautifully designed, gorgeously photographed, fantastic performances, wonderful effects, but a hackneyed story.

And so it is boring and dull.

I can't explain it. Something went seriously wrong with this one. Imagine a director with a singular vision corraling all those elements ruthlessly and standing up to the studio, this was so depressing in that the elements which could have elevated it to a classic are all on show, but they just lie there dying, strangled by a committee written script.

And let's try to end the current fixation with wrestling pictures. Barton Fink couldn't write one, but it seems any old hack can. ALL superhero movies recently are wrestling pictures, complete with costumes, so why did this have to go there?





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Almost excellent - 8/8/2010 12:39:44 PM   
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Starts strongly but goes awry around the halfway mark before ending on a flat, predictable note. A shame, because the actors are great, as are the FX and there are a couple of brilliant scares. Watch it late at night with the sound up.

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Almost excellent - 8/8/2010 12:39:46 PM   
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Starts strongly but goes awry around the halfway mark before ending on a flat, predictable note. A shame, because the actors are great, as are the FX and there are a couple of brilliant scares. Watch it late at night with the sound up.

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I'm lycan this alot... - 7/9/2010 1:24:27 PM   
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The Wolfman (2010) It's not cool but it is good.

Joe Johnstone's remake of the 1941 horror classic was a box-office bomb; Made on a budget of $150 million, the film managed to scrape back a peasy-assed $140 million at the cinemas (that's worldwide, mind).

The film seemed cursed (pun, as always, intended) before it's release as stories of directorial changes and production delays held the film up. Upon release the film met indifferent reviews and quickly disappeared from public conscience; but for some reason I felt an urge to give it a go.

Maybe it was because I thought it would be good to see Benicio Del Toro headlining a 'mainstream' movie or maybe it was the fact the brilliant original is still the benchmark of werewolf movies but still old and quaintly archaic enough to warrant a 're-imagining'.

Upon watching it's very easy to understand why the film failed to find an audience. The style of the movie is reminiscent of the gothic spookiness of recent family friendly horror-lite such as Van Helsing or the Twilight series but the film contains enough blood, viscera and gore to warrant it's 15 certificate (R in the US). Though this was an attempt to give the film some much needed credence in the horror genre (the original is, after all, a pioneer of terror) compare it to the current swathe of 'torture-porn', the SAW movies and their copycat offspring and The Wolfman seems tame, like almost, well, a kid's movie.

Away from the current trends of modern horror, The Wolfman stands out as a very entertaining, old-school, blood-and-guts romp. That's right, you heard me, 'ROMP'. You don't see enough films these days being referred to as 'romps'... But, I digress, whereas a lot of fantasy films these days have decided to maintain an air of po-faced seriousness, The Wolfman is a film that is aware of it's own sense of silliness and this undoubtedly is, in my opinion, a good thing.

With each wolf-attack sequence seemingly trying to tick off an inventory of 'c

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Soooo close! - 21/9/2010 9:58:12 PM   
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Uneven is probably the best word to describe this film-the romance is inconsistent and strangely motivated as is some of the characters; but it has some great moments such as the parts in the London Asylum. For those who have yet to watch it, watch the extended cut-it explains a lot more and is generally better.

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The Wolfman - 26/9/2010 6:51:38 PM   
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Tales of the werewolf have always been an intriguing component of supernatural legend. What draws so many people to write stories and make movies about the beast is how it seems to represent the inner monster so many people struggle with, as well as their most primal desires. Filmmakers have had a blast with the creatures, showing their inner struggle, contrasting them with the more elegant vampires, and of course, letting them loose to create a good old bloodbath.

So that might be one reason there was a temptation to remake the classic 1941 film The Wolfman. Another reason may be because, the Universal monster films, while famous and influential, haven’t aged well. They were well-made for their time and have helped shape horror as it is today, but they are unlikely to be entertaining for this generation, even if they are still held in high regard by the nostalgic.

With The Wolfman, Joe Johnston tries to create a story that pays homage to the monster movies of yesteryear, explores the inner conflicts of the werewolf, and has plenty of the obligatory gore.

The Wolfman is the story of Lawrence Talbot (Benicio Del Toro), an actor who is summoned back to his home by his father (Anthony Hopkins) after learning that his brother has been murdered by a vicious beast. Talbot then encounters this vicious beast himself, and contracts the curse of the werewolf, becoming an uncontrollable killer during the full moon. Things are complicated when he ends up trapped at a sadistic asylum, and he learns his father’s dark secret.

This story allows the movie to have the aforementioned obligatory gore, as there are many brutal scenes to be found. The film begins with a man being slain by the first werewolf, and Lawrence gets to commit bloody murders during his lycanthrope periods. His transformations are also made to look suitably painful and the asylum he finds himself trapped in comes off as truly torturous and squalid. However, some of the brutality is more distractingly hilarious then effective, in moments like a hunter getting his head swiped off, and a doctor falling out of the window to be impaled onto a fencepost.

Johnston really wants to create a classic horror story, to take the genre away from the thin stories about teenagers being stalked by corny killers. Unfortunately, he seems to have confused classic with cliché. Some of the clichés work – who can resist the bleak forest illuminated by the skull-like moon? – but most of them, like the identity of the werewolf who cursed Lawrence and a scene where the movie’s token woman (Emily Blunt) tries to soothe the savage beast, just make the whole thing seem tired.

Moreover, in an attempt to distance this from the usual mindless horror stuff, there are scenes that just come off as pretentious, most of them coming from Lawrence’s odd hallucinations, which include odd things like a Neanderthal Gollum and a speaking statue.

Benicio Del Toro, who apparently is playing his dream role here, does a fine job with the material that he is given, as does Anthony Hopkins, even if the latter is playing a lesser version of his famous Hannibal Lector role. Emily Blunt plays the typical love interest, and basically does what her character should do; no more, no less.

While The Wolfman had its heart in the right place, the final product is a strange hybrid of Ang Lee’s Hulk and the 1999 version of The Haunting. Like the former, it tries to tell a tale of a man’s inner monster with pompous tricks and a sinister father, and like the latter, it is a horror remake too big for its own good. It could have been a fun spooky romp, but, while not as terrible as most remakes, is unlikely to arouse interest.


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I thought it was brilliant! - 28/10/2010 4:41:21 PM   
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We need more werewolf movies....

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I thought it was brilliant! - 28/10/2010 4:41:23 PM   
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We need more werewolf movies....

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- 3/11/2010 12:07:15 PM   
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Good.

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RE: - 16/1/2011 10:15:47 PM   
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Just sat down and watched having got on DVD for less than a fiver and well worth it.

Love the original and this has faith in the original 'feel' and the cinematography is strong, cannot understand the hatred for Hopkins' role, plays a blinder in the build to the 'truth' of the story.

Solid SFX frankly, wanting to keep true to the 40's feel while delivering suitable horror and gore for a modern audience. Blunt was amazing, and Weaving steels every scene he's in.

Very good three star film.


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RE: Soooo close! - 24/1/2011 12:29:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Radical_Duck

Uneven is probably the best word to describe this film-the romance is inconsistent and strangely motivated as is some of the characters; but it has some great moments such as the parts in the London Asylum. For those who have yet to watch it, watch the extended cut-it explains a lot more and is generally better.

Yeah!! I agree with you it is really great moments and I want to watch more wolf movies...

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RE: Soooo close! - 2/5/2011 11:34:26 PM   
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The Wolfman

I'd been put off watching this by some scathing reviews, but considering the director (Joe Johnston) came onto the project at a really late stage, I think he made a watch-able, if not great, updated old-school Hammer-ish style monster movie. The werewolfy bits were suitably werewolfy, visually it looked very stylish and atmospheric, the effects and gory bits are well done, and although it clearly had a less than properly developed/good script, I actually found it reasonably entertaining.

6/10 (bordering on 7, because I'm a sucker for werewolves)

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