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Capitalism: A Love Story - 22/1/2010 4:20:01 PM   
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- 22/2/2010 12:49:04 AM   
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Micahel Moor is the biggest hypocrite on this planet..next to perez Hilton and Tony Blair of course. I can't stand the fact fuck. How are those tax credits for this flop going Moore...you disgusting piece of shit.

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- 22/2/2010 12:49:07 AM   
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Micahel Moor is the biggest hypocrite on this planet..next to perez Hilton and Tony Blair of course. I can't stand the fact fuck. How are those tax credits for this flop going Moore...you disgusting piece of shit.

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RE: - 22/2/2010 1:52:53 PM   
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Micahel(sic) Moor(sic) is the biggest hypocrite on this planet..next to perez Hilton and Tony Blair of course. I can't stand the fact(sic) fuck. How are those tax credits for this flop going Moore...you disgusting piece of shit.


Interesting, rational, mature comments you have there, 'C3'. Care to tell us why you believe Moore is a hypocrite?

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Sicko didn’t really have much appeal outside the US, where socialism is part of a slippery slope that leads to beer, coke, meth, chicks with dicks and jail.


What the hell are you talking about, Damon? This non sequitur sounds like if anything, a cry for help from the author...

In any case, this is a rather good film from Moore (as usual), thought provoking (as usual) and enlightening (as usual). Reminiscent of Naomi Kleins disaster capitalism (also recommended).

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RE: RE: - 22/2/2010 9:34:43 PM   
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Sweety, I'll give you a clue.....it was sort of implied with tax credits. And if you really need someone to explain to you why Michael Moore is a hypocrite, then I politley suggest that you lack the IQ comprehend it.

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RE: RE: - 22/2/2010 9:43:34 PM   
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Oh and it was cute how you highlighted my typos, then made some of your own and then went back to edit them...kudos to you...

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RE: RE: - 24/2/2010 12:15:48 PM   
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 C3 - Everybody has the right to an opinion (even an arrogant person like yourself). However nobody has the right to abuse. Spamandham asked you a simple question. You failed to answer that question, called into question their intelligence and lambasted them for pointing out your spelling error. Just be glad they did not point out all the grammar errors as well (6 in total if you were wondering).

So how about answering the question put forth to you instead of trolling, huh?

As far as the film goes, a good entry in the film canon of Moore. I found it more interesting than Sicko, as it dealt with an issue that concerns the whole world rather than just the U.S.A.

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RE: RE: - 25/2/2010 5:08:52 AM   
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Well I didn't realise that the empire forum was actually an English test. Silly me. It's amusing that you think its alright to call me arrogant - although you haven't explained why - yet I can't question someone else's intelligence when they were trying to be a smartass. Great reasoning there! What sort of petty tithead repeats someones comments on an internet  with obvious typos and writes (sic) beside the word? Only a complete knobjockey as far as I am concerned. Oddly enough, I don't take welll to patronising, sanctimonious assholes on the net.

I didn't give him a full answer because I thought it was PAINFULLY obvious in my original post. Michael Moore makes a film about Capitalism and how evil it is yet he applies for tax incentives for a film that criticizes government handouts to big business. The film credits program provides refundable tax credits worth as much as 42 percent of expenditures for movies made in the state. Typical champagne socialist, do as I say, not as I do. Its rather Ironic don't you think that he wants to make use of all the loopholes in a capitalist system to make a movie that criticises it. So basically we must all pay our taxes but he should be exempt..sweet deal fat ass.
 
Of course being the multi millionaire he doenst mind charging people $15 to see this tosh while collecting all the profit for himself...If he was such a good commie, why not let people see it for free? But thankfully, as the film flopped, he won't be getting much of a return.
 
This is merely yet one more example in a list that could go on for days regarding the mans hypocrisy. I won't forget seeing him have a Diva strop at Cannes because he felt photographers were not giving him enough attention. Oh and I also LOVED how he lied and manipulated to audiences in sicko by making out that the NHS was a stress and queue free experience.
 
The man is a piece of shit. End of story. Satisfied?

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RE: RE: - 25/2/2010 5:08:45 PM   
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What the Empire forum prefer is that posters speak to the post and not waste bandwidth attacking the posters.

SPamandham - doing what you did to the first post was pretty provocative. Your query/point could have been made as easily without it.

C3 - tone down the aggressiveness and let others focus on the substance of your posts as you clearly have sufficient back-up to your argument. At the moment your posts look a little as if they come from the type of person you profess not to take well to, the kind that use patronising and deliberately provocative gubbins like 'sweety' in their responses.

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RE: RE: - 2/3/2010 1:39:52 PM   
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 It's not often I feel like posting but this thread has gone winky and needs a bit of the straight-n-narrow.

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ORIGINAL: C3
Well I didn't realise that the empire forum was actually an English test.


Its not about a grammar or being a written English test, but more about forum etiquette were we all hope that by adhering to typical literacy rules, we can avoid misinterpreting views and make for an easier read without getting crass or profane. Though it doesn’t always stop us

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ORIGINAL: C3
I don't take well to patronising, sanctimonious assholes on the net.


I urge you to re-read your posts on this thread and then you might understand why its fallen flat. Your quick to cuss, slow to justify. Many have worried about the increasing number of trolling, new members that have emerged to derail threads of late and likely spamandham was just pointing out that he’d not felt you had justified your comments. Its easy to slag someone off, but if your going to do so then make sure you give it some heft and back it up with facts or examples. That's all.

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ORIGINAL: C3 
The man is a piece of shit. End of story. Satisfied?


Your free to your opinion. We all are. Personally I don’t like Moore that much but I have enjoyed some of his work. He seems to land knackers-first with alarming regularity while trying to stay firmly on the fence. Swift to moralise and yet for every thrusting cutting criticism, he always holds off from a killer blow for fear or totally distancing himself from his audience.

I think hed be best taking that hammer blow all the way home and landing it as his films would certainly have more clout if he were to do so. He suffers most with cherry picking his fights and over-simplifying his cuts between scenarios. Its probably why he’s made such popular doc's so far but I hope he can take it to another level.

I thought Sicko was patronising IMO but I still enjoyed it.

C:A.L.S is a film I'll go and see but Im not expecting anything groundbreaking or new.

On a lighter note, I just finished watching the Michael Moore directed video for RATM's 'Sleep Now In The Fire'. Awesome song and I really liked the video too.\nn/\nn/   Raaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr! Enjoy!

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RE: RE: - 5/3/2010 12:06:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Atomhammer

Its easy to slag someone off, but if your going to do so then make sure you give it some heft and back it up with facts or examples. That's all.




I believe thats exactly what I did in my subsiquent posts .....

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RE: RE: - 5/3/2010 12:11:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Atomhammer

Many have worried about the increasing number of trolling, new members that have emerged to derail threads of late and likely spamandham was just pointing out that he'd not felt you had justified your comments.


I have been a member for 2 years actually. Just because someone does not live and breath on the Empire forum and post every day, does not make them a troll or a newbie...

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- 23/5/2010 11:33:03 PM   
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Loved it. Seems like this is the main theme that underlines his previous movies.

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RE: tax breaks? - 30/5/2010 8:28:11 PM   
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I've read a number of articles which say that Moore never actually submitted the documentation required to receive the tax credit. For example:

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2010/02/michael_moore_applied_for_but.html

The right wing press no doubt went after him on the matter, but I've seen little evidence that he has profitted personally (and even if the company was given the break it wouldn't be Moore alone to gain - I'd be surprised if his crew weren't properly rewarded).

The film - well it lacks the punch of Fahrenheit 9/11 or Bowling for Columbine, but it does sum up the way a lot of us are feeling at the moment - how many people out there don't know someone that has been made redundant in the last 2 years?

The most telling scene isn't Moore's own attempt to collect what the banks have taken from the public (only to reward themselves with ever bigger bonuses, while continuing to throw money at hedge funds and the like). It is the poignant, determined and finally uplifting resistance of the Chicago Windows and Door company, as they hang on for what their employer and its liquidator the Bank of America owed them. A fine and wonderful example of what people power can deliver.

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RE: tax breaks? - 31/5/2010 9:54:11 AM   
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 Like all great directors, Moore is a master at manipulating his audience. This is propaganda, but so what? After so much propaganda from the right, what's wrong with some propaganda from the left?
If he could only cut out the populist stage pieces a little, like going to Cuba or trying to arrest bankers... 

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Quality Stuff - 31/5/2010 11:58:13 AM   
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 As per usual Micheal Moore hits the nail on the head regardless of what you feel about his methods. The stories are disgusting and the fight by the factory workers against Bank of America was a highlight for me.

No matter what the right wing media say the facts speak for themselves and the corporate ghouls (and their lackeys in the media) who try to grind down the average person in the US cannot escape that.


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Informative - 6/11/2010 6:49:55 PM   
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In response to the reviewer of this film, Damon Wise, Michael Moore's parting shot 'I refuse to live in a country like this...and I'm not leaving' I think meant that he intends to do something about the situation of capitalism. I don't think he was being contradictory.

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- 4/1/2012 3:53:15 PM   
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This is an important film. Agree or disagree with his politics, it's obvious that the current system is horribly broken.

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