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RE: This is Fallout 3 the movie - 22/1/2010 10:33:29 AM   
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The thing I love about movies is that everyone makes up their own mind on what they like and rightly so. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that opinion should be respected whether you agree or not.
Kim Newman obviously didn't rate this movie that well to give it 2 our of 5



I agree with that. I also think Newman underrated The Book Of Eli quite considerably, but as is often the case where people don't agree with a review, folks have too quick to jump down his throat. It's only his opinion. Same as with the 5 stars Avatar review. I disagree totally with that, but in the end it's just the reviewer's opinion. If I was in a pub and the guy next to me said Avatar was the best movie ever I might laugh but I wouldn't start insulting him!

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RE: This is Fallout 3 the movie - 22/1/2010 10:37:54 AM   
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Maybe seeing Mila Kunis's character doing some fight training and then walking off with us actually seeing a bible in her backpack?



That was one of the parts that bugged me slightly with the movie. I wasn't asking for a Rocky-esque training montage but at the same time, baring in mind the stuff that had happened to her before, why were we all of a sudden supposed to buy her as an ass kicking one 'man' army? That didn't work at all.

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RE: This is Fallout 3 the movie - 22/1/2010 11:50:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Skillgannon
Maybe seeing Mila Kunis's character doing some fight training and then walking off with us actually seeing a bible in her backpack?



That was one of the parts that bugged me slightly with the movie. I wasn't asking for a Rocky-esque training montage but at the same time, baring in mind the stuff that had happened to her before, why were we all of a sudden supposed to buy her as an ass kicking one 'man' army? That didn't work at all.


Its obvious quite some time must have passed for Eli to dictate the whole Bible (oddly the Bible he carried didn't have too many pages so not sure whats up there?) so in that time, they could have had her learning how to look after herself. 

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RE: This is Fallout 3 the movie - 22/1/2010 12:29:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dr Lenera


quote:

ORIGINAL: Skillgannon

The thing I love about movies is that everyone makes up their own mind on what they like and rightly so. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that opinion should be respected whether you agree or not.
Kim Newman obviously didn't rate this movie that well to give it 2 our of 5



I agree with that. I also think Newman underrated The Book Of Eli quite considerably, but as is often the case where people don't agree with a review, folks have too quick to jump down his throat. It's only his opinion. Same as with the 5 stars Avatar review. I disagree totally with that, but in the end it's just the reviewer's opinion. If I was in a pub and the guy next to me said Avatar was the best movie ever I might laugh but I wouldn't start insulting him!


I agree that it's crazy  to go off at the reviewer for a different opinion, but my problem with Newman's review here isn't that he dislikes a film that I actually like, it's the utter nonesense that is in it. I've already posted above so won't bore everyone with the same rant twice, but his review is full of inaccuracies that make you wonder if he even saw the film. Bizarre and I think pretty disgraceful.

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RE: cindersred - 23/1/2010 1:16:02 AM   
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Didn't rate this much. The religious message was a commendable attempt to do something different, but felt forced to me. Have a theme, but don't hammer it home so hard you injure people in the audience. The twists were surprising, but on reflection make the action fairly ridiculous (is Eli actually Daredevil?), and there wasn't a single character I particularly cared about.

That said, it was comforting to learn that skinny jeans and iPods will survive a nuclear holocaust.

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RE: Disappointing, It blows. Post-Apocalytic but with N... - 24/1/2010 3:27:18 PM   
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I really enjoyed it, good action and a nice little mystrery running through it.  I get why people are comparing it to the road but they are very different films.   The book of eli is an action film, the road most certainly isn't.  
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RE: The Book Of Eli - 25/1/2010 2:14:53 PM   
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The Book Of Eli.


The Hughes brothers return after a 9 year hiatus with their first feature film since From Hell. The directors of Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents.

Staring Denzel Washington it is set approximately 30 after an unknown event has caused the end of most the life on Earth.  He is a traveller, wandering alone with just his wits, a bow, supplies, a couple of guns and a very sharp machete.

It is a desolate and dusty world.  Roving bands of cannibals, bandits and generally not very nice people.  Denzel pays the titular Eli who we learn pretty early on can look after himself is carrying a book.  A book with a large cross on it.  A book with a large cross on it that he reads everyday. A book with a large cross on it that he reads everyday that he also quotes frequently. 

On his travels he stumbles across as small town ran by Carnegie (an on cruise control) Gary Oldman.  Due to how well Eli handles himself Carnegie wants him to stay.  Carnegie who is sending roaming bandits out to search for a book. He even goes so far as to offer him Solara who is the daughter of his partner.  Solara is played by the far too glamorous Mila Kunis.  In a world were soap and water are so rare she looks like she is right off of vogue magazine.

Solara accidently reveals to Carnegie that Eli has the book he has been searching for. So Eli escapes the town followed by Solara who can take no more of Carnegie’s rule.  The 2 quickly forming a bond around the book and its teaching and from this we understand Eli is going west to find his place in the world.

It is an interesting film because the book is wanted for its ideas and knowledge, as Carnegie wants it to expand the town and keep his people inline.  Instead of using weapons he wants ideas, theology and words to control the people.

The acting is fine all round, but you can’t help but feel that both Washington and Oldman have done these characters many times before.  The direction is done well with some nice visual touches and some flair at times. 

Some have seen this film of being preachy. Which is understandable on some levels, as the ending will leave some cold to it.  The Hughes Brothers don’t make many films and seemingly pick and choose the films they want to make and are the ones that mean something to them.  Obviously a film focusing on a book with a cross on the front has large religious tones that run through most the themes of the film. Some well, others maybe not so well.

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RE: The Book Of Eli - 25/1/2010 6:44:34 PM   
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just got back from seeing it

ticket prices at Odeon in London? £11.20 for a "matinee"...sheesh!!!


the film itself?

enjoyed it - saw "The Road" the previous Monday, and its probably fair to compare these 2 films due to their 'end of the world' settings

I think I preferred The Book of Eli to The Road

I found 'The Road' to be be a subtle, perhaps too "slight" film to be really effective - I certainly thought the acting performances were very good all round, but there wasn't much going on in the film - I've never read the book itself so cannot comment in that respect

The Book of Eli is a solid actioneer with a deeper message, and a nice twist (or two) at the end

the fight scenes were breath taking, and like The Road, you don't really find out what caused the World to end

a solid 3/5

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RE: The Book Of Eli - 25/1/2010 6:46:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Death_Row_Marv

The Book Of Eli.


The Hughes brothers return after a 9 year hiatus with their first feature film since From Hell. The directors of Menace 2 Society and Dead Presidents.

Staring Denzel Washington it is set approximately 30 after an unknown event has caused the end of most the life on Earth.  He is a traveller, wandering alone with just his wits, a bow, supplies, a couple of guns and a very sharp machete.

It is a desolate and dusty world.  Roving bands of cannibals, bandits and generally not very nice people.  Denzel pays the titular Eli who we learn pretty early on can look after himself is carrying a book.  A book with a large cross on it.  A book with a large cross on it that he reads everyday. A book with a large cross on it that he reads everyday that he also quotes frequently. 

On his travels he stumbles across as small town ran by Carnegie (an on cruise control) Gary Oldman.  Due to how well Eli handles himself Carnegie wants him to stay.  Carnegie who is sending roaming bandits out to search for a book. He even goes so far as to offer him Solara who is the daughter of his partner.  Solara is played by the far too glamorous Mila Kunis.  In a world were soap and water are so rare she looks like she is right off of vogue magazine.

Solara accidently reveals to Carnegie that Eli has the book he has been searching for. So Eli escapes the town followed by Solara who can take no more of Carnegie's rule.  The 2 quickly forming a bond around the book and its teaching and from this we understand Eli is going west to find his place in the world.

It is an interesting film because the book is wanted for its ideas and knowledge, as Carnegie wants it to expand the town and keep his people inline.  Instead of using weapons he wants ideas, theology and words to control the people.

The acting is fine all round, but you can't help but feel that both Washington and Oldman have done these characters many times before.  The direction is done well with some nice visual touches and some flair at times. 

Some have seen this film of being preachy. Which is understandable on some levels, as the ending will leave some cold to it.  The Hughes Brothers don't make many films and seemingly pick and choose the films they want to make and are the ones that mean something to them.  Obviously a film focusing on a book with a cross on the front has large religious tones that run through most the themes of the film. Some well, others maybe not so well.


Nice one bruv! Very professionally written, although by now we kind of know most of it, including that it stars Denzel Washington. But again, decent job. Umm, you're not actually Kimmy Newman incognito trying to repent for the sins of the original cock-eyed review are you?

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RE: The Book Of Eli - 27/1/2010 1:30:08 PM   
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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 27/1/2010 7:46:07 PM   
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Quite sluggish in parts and generally should be a 2 star film. However, the acting, the cinematography and a few action set pieces that were shot fantastically (although camera techniques reminiscent of Michael Bay's Bad Boys 2 *shudder*) managed to save this from a bad review for me. Basically, average but enjoyable (especially after watching the shitty 2012)

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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 28/1/2010 8:18:15 PM   
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I thoroughly enjoyed this film. Went in with zero expectations and came out pleasantly surprised. A lot of people have said that its preachy and been turned off by what they think is lesson in Christainity, but I took a different message from it. Eli mentions that people blamed The Bible for 'the war'. Gary Oldman's character calls it a weapon, and at the end Eli says he spent everyday reading it, protecting it but didn't really live by its meaning. I took the film has making acomment on the distorted uses of violence that have come out of a rigid, unquestioning following of religion, forsaking in the process the righteous message behind faith in the first place, as opposed as a film telling us we should all become Christains.

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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 2/2/2010 6:27:05 PM   
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Had no intention of seeing this when there are other films out at the moment that I'd rather, however it was recommended by a colleague...

I was so bored during this.  I'm just a bit sick of post apocalyptic end-of-humanity films with bleached cinematography desolate landscapes.  It seems like we've had so many and few of them are any good.  For the record, I enjoyed The Road but I don't really get the cross referencing to that film.  Seems The Road's only mistake was being released so close to this.

I kind of had a feeling I was on to a loser within about ten minutes but started to find it acceptable once it was obvious I was basically watching a Western.

Even so, I just didn't engage with the story or characters.  Washington is such a dull leading man, I stuggle to understand how he ever gets cast.  The action, whilst well staged, was nothing new. 

It really picked up though, in the last 15 minutes.  It was obvious he had a Bible but the fact that it was braille and Eli was blind was a really interesting twist.  The idea that he'd memorised the whole thing whilst on his 30 year quest was ridiculous (in the way that lots of things in films are) but cool.  If only I'd cared more about his journey, I may even have been moved. 

The fact that he's blind though, basically doesn't hold up when taken in context with everything he's been shown to be capable of before.  Ok so we got lots of stuff about his other senses being good so perhaps it makes perfect sense to some, but to me, he came across like a super powered Bear Grylls for most of the film.

I felt that the idea that Eli was protected somehow, on a mission from God, was a theme only lightly touched upon and mentioned in passing by a few characters.  Perhaps if the religious aspect of the story had been beefed up some more it would have carried more weight with me.

15 decent minutes at the end couldn't stop this being a below average and forgettable film though.

4/10

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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 3/2/2010 12:27:09 AM   
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Had no intention of seeing this when there are other films out at the moment that I'd rather, however it was recommended by a colleague...

I was so bored during this.  I'm just a bit sick of post apocalyptic end-of-humanity films with bleached cinematography desolate landscapes.  It seems like we've had so many and few of them are any good.  For the record, I enjoyed The Road but I don't really get the cross referencing to that film.  Seems The Road's only mistake was being released so close to this.

I kind of had a feeling I was on to a loser within about ten minutes but started to find it acceptable once it was obvious I was basically watching a Western.

Even so, I just didn't engage with the story or characters.  Washington is such a dull leading man, I stuggle to understand how he ever gets cast.  The action, whilst well staged, was nothing new. 

It really picked up though, in the last 15 minutes.  It was obvious he had a Bible but the fact that it was braille and Eli was blind was a really interesting twist.  The idea that he'd memorised the whole thing whilst on his 30 year quest was ridiculous (in the way that lots of things in films are) but cool.  If only I'd cared more about his journey, I may even have been moved. 

The fact that he's blind though, basically doesn't hold up when taken in context with everything he's been shown to be capable of before.  Ok so we got lots of stuff about his other senses being good so perhaps it makes perfect sense to some, but to me, he came across like a super powered Bear Grylls for most of the film.

I felt that the idea that Eli was protected somehow, on a mission from God, was a theme only lightly touched upon and mentioned in passing by a few characters.  Perhaps if the religious aspect of the story had been beefed up some more it would have carried more weight with me.

15 decent minutes at the end couldn't stop this being a below average and forgettable film though.

4/10


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RE: The Book Of Eli - 4/2/2010 1:40:50 AM   
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Wow, all these reviews are positive, I can't wait to see this one on Saturday!!

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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 5/2/2010 6:00:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SpiderBat

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gazdance

Had no intention of seeing this when there are other films out at the moment that I'd rather, however it was recommended by a colleague...

I was so bored during this.  I'm just a bit sick of post apocalyptic end-of-humanity films with bleached cinematography desolate landscapes.  It seems like we've had so many and few of them are any good.  For the record, I enjoyed The Road but I don't really get the cross referencing to that film.  Seems The Road's only mistake was being released so close to this.

I kind of had a feeling I was on to a loser within about ten minutes but started to find it acceptable once it was obvious I was basically watching a Western.

Even so, I just didn't engage with the story or characters.  Washington is such a dull leading man, I stuggle to understand how he ever gets cast.  The action, whilst well staged, was nothing new. 

It really picked up though, in the last 15 minutes.  It was obvious he had a Bible but the fact that it was braille and Eli was blind was a really interesting twist.  The idea that he'd memorised the whole thing whilst on his 30 year quest was ridiculous (in the way that lots of things in films are) but cool.  If only I'd cared more about his journey, I may even have been moved. 

The fact that he's blind though, basically doesn't hold up when taken in context with everything he's been shown to be capable of before.  Ok so we got lots of stuff about his other senses being good so perhaps it makes perfect sense to some, but to me, he came across like a super powered Bear Grylls for most of the film.

I felt that the idea that Eli was protected somehow, on a mission from God, was a theme only lightly touched upon and mentioned in passing by a few characters.  Perhaps if the religious aspect of the story had been beefed up some more it would have carried more weight with me.

15 decent minutes at the end couldn't stop this being a below average and forgettable film though.

4/10


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I liked the film, 7/10

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RE: Good But Left Me A Little Cold. - 14/6/2010 12:39:58 PM   
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I've got a couple of questions regarding some plot points, SPOLERS ahead for what it's worth.

Firstly Eli is blind isn't he? Now I watched the film twice and the second time round there are times when he does 'act' blind, not looking in peoples eyes when they speak, super hearing etc but there are times where he blatantly has to use sight for what he's doing. It's not a major gripe, it's just a bit inconsistent.

Secondly how does he know about Alcatraz? Okay he's had a 'voice' telling him to walk west, thats fine but how does he know specifically that it's Alcatraz that he needs to get to and that they are collecting books, the curator doesn't seem at all surprised to see Eli rock up.

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RE: Good But Left Me A Little Cold. - 19/6/2010 8:23:21 PM   
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I've got a couple of questions regarding some plot points, SPOLERS ahead for what it's worth.

Firstly Eli is blind isn't he? Now I watched the film twice and the second time round there are times when he does 'act' blind, not looking in peoples eyes when they speak, super hearing etc but there are times where he blatantly has to use sight for what he's doing. It's not a major gripe, it's just a bit inconsistent.

Secondly how does he know about Alcatraz? Okay he's had a 'voice' telling him to walk west, thats fine but how does he know specifically that it's Alcatraz that he needs to get to and that they are collecting books, the curator doesn't seem at all surprised to see Eli rock up.


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RE: 2 stars, very harsh! - 10/7/2010 11:51:17 PM   
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I've just finished watching this for the 2nd time and tbh I thought it was pretty good, but I do have a question about the twist - was he actually blind? Having watched it a second time, there isn't anything during the film that suggests he is blind.... yeah I know, he could smell the robbers 30 feet away and he can read braillet, but when he's putting objects down, picking objects up, talking to people, shooting and hitting the targets, doesn't use a stick to walk with, it just all becomes a bit too unbelievable that he is blind.... especially when the girl is being attacked by those two cannibals and he shoots and kills them with an arrow - come on, a blind man firing an arrow at two cannibals when she's standing with them?

We do get to see his eyes properly at the end, and they don't look right... well, one does, the other doesn't.. was he partially blind? fully blind, OR was he ONCE blind but now he can see? and because of this he's now on a mission from god? - unlikely I know, but it would be better if that was the case imo.

If he was blind, then my opinion of the film has dropped.

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RE: Biggest plot-hole in history of man. Yes, really. - 27/7/2010 1:34:13 PM   
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I really enjoyed this. I can understand why some found it dull (which I didn't) and others found it preachy (which I did on occasion).

**Spoiler**
There are a few minor things (Mila Kunis is fucking awful in anything), and the reveal at the end is so out of the blue that it really is implausible (there is a flashback sequence where you can clearly see Denzel looking at things & people). I think it would have been much better if he had not been blind but had still taught himself to read braille - this would have been more acceptable and less fantastical.

**End Spoiler**

That said, the performances from Denzel and Oldman are exceptional, Oldman really brings more than just token-bad-guy to it.

Well worth a watch.
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RE: Biggest plot-hole in history of man. Yes, really. - 27/7/2010 8:37:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UTB

I really enjoyed this. I can understand why some found it dull (which I didn't) and others found it preachy (which I did on occasion).

**Spoiler**
There are a few minor things (Mila Kunis is fucking awful in anything), and the reveal at the end is so out of the blue that it really is implausible (there is a flashback sequence where you can clearly see Denzel looking at things & people). I think it would have been much better if he had not been blind but had still taught himself to read braille - this would have been more acceptable and less fantastical.

**End Spoiler**

That said, the performances from Denzel and Oldman are exceptional, Oldman really brings more than just token-bad-guy to it.

Well worth a watch.



This.

Massive fan of the Hughes Brothers (I think Dead Presidents is one of the all time underrated movies ever made) and the film, while rather linear and offers nothing new idea wise - is visually catching and slick and holds some superb action sequences with a great score. Denzil is a complete and utter cold and bad-arse sunofabitch - which I loved.

The ending is fine, nothing earth shattering but makes you wanna go back and watch it again to tru and rip holes into it haha.

Anyway, very entertaining movie with Denzil is super-bad lad mode.

***/*****

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RE: Ive Changed My Mind - 31/7/2010 5:39:47 PM   
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4 outta 5 stars.

Denzel, Gary, even Mila for purely eye candy's sake (her mom too lol), were all good to watch. Never got bored at all. The action was sweet and Denzel taking on a mob of thugs (repeatedly) was very cool. The first one underneath the bridge in the shade was awesome to watch, though not much was seen. The sound fx was nice too. It was sorta reminiscent of Chan Wook Park. Did I mention Mila Kunis? Yeah, she's hot.
But the best thing about the movie, apart from the great visuals and action and pseudo epicness, was the music. The music kept the movie going and echoed music of movies I've seen before but cannot place. The music is certainly similar to the stuff I already listen to.
I liked the twist at the end, but was sorta disappointed that the city and its inhabitants weren't explored more. Denzel reciting the Bible word for word evoked memories of mythology I've read over the years. The scope of the movie itself wasn't epic, though I suspect it was perhaps what it strive'd towards. It wanted to be epic, but just couldn't reach that plateau. High marks for trying though. I felt the attempt which left me wistfully wishing that it could've made it there. Oh well.


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RE: 2 stars no way! - 2/9/2010 4:43:26 PM   
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Two stars for this movie is just plain silly. I saw this the other night and it's a very, very good film.

BTW, THERE BE POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD!!

There's a lot of things I liked about this movie but i'll start with the colouring. It is a bleak setting no doubt, but the cinematographer has made it look actually quite picturesque with the help of some very good lighting, brilliant camera work and a great landscape to work on (i would think it's Arizona or Nevada). On Blu-Ray, just how picturesque this movie is becomes increasingly apparent as the movie progresses.

Now onto the plot - it starts as your average post-apocolyptic tale of a lone drifter who encounters a plethora of baddies on his journey "West", not least of which consists of Gary Oldman (who is as good as ever) and his gang, but it gradually morphs into a very deep story about faith and the power of the titular Book of Eli which is of course The Bible, and it's contents. Of course there are lots of [very good] action sequences in the movie and Denzel Washington is one of very few actors who is always watchable regardless of the character he is playing, so it never strays from just being a good Baddies Vs Goodies action flick if that's all you want to take from it.
On the other hand, it also has a very poignant message about faith, The Bible and the power of it's words. What rang particlarly true for me was it's message regarding the power associated with this book and it's words, it's corruptability and what could be acheived if it fell into the wrong hands -  i.e controlling the masses by fear.

I'm not a religious man and i did think it become's a little bit too preachy if you let it, but at it's core it's got a good message and a poignant one in this day and age about religion and the dangers of it becoming an obsession rather than a philosophy - and as the reviewer pointed out there are a couple of pretty interesting twists that you don't see coming..........literally!

Definitely highly recommended!

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RE: 2 stars no way! - 2/9/2010 6:26:33 PM   
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Maybe Denzel was blind, but was able to see only to become again in the end? I know I'm reaching, but I wanted to throw it out there.

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RE: 2 stars no way! - 2/9/2010 6:38:03 PM   
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Two stars for this movie is just plain silly.


I think it pretty much is right.


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RE: 2 stars yes...way? - 2/9/2010 7:30:51 PM   
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Here I find myself siding with Empire yet again...what is going on?

I find it hard to believe people would give this film a good rating. I mean, some of the action scenes are ok and Gary Oldman is good fun as yet another hammy bad guy but the whole thing just builds up to nothing dramatically. The film just ends up feeling like religious propaganda even if that maybe wasn't the intention. Even the "twist" in Zardoz (starring Sean Connery in tiny red pants) was more powerful!

But yeah, it's all so clichéd. It kinda feels like a B movie to The Road as well. Which was a far better film by the way and which I would recommend watching instead. And no, the Zatoichi thing at the end makes no real sense. Plus the whole thing about him walking the US for years in circles is kinda funny...when it's not really meant to be lol So yeah, for me 2 stars is about right. 3 at the very most.

And I didn't even mention how dull it is, the constant sepia/grey filters, Denzel's annoying sidekick and the 3 MILLION silly sunset poses everyone takes at one point or another...

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RE: 2 stars yes...way? - 2/9/2010 7:58:11 PM   
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The twist is pretty much awful. And utterly ridiculous. 

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RE: 2 stars yes...way? - 2/9/2010 8:25:21 PM   
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The twist is pretty much awful. And utterly ridiculous. 


I went on Wikipedia to find out what the twist is (I have no intention of seeing the film - it looked rotten) but was distracted by the fact that George Michael appears to be starring in the film, going from the poster on its wiki page.

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RE: 2 stars yes...way? - 2/9/2010 11:46:34 PM   
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I loved the film and the twist.

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RE: 2 stars yes...way? - 3/9/2010 12:03:02 AM   
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The twist is pretty much awful. And utterly ridiculous. 


I went on Wikipedia to find out what the twist is (I have no intention of seeing the film - it looked rotten) but was distracted by the fact that George Michael appears to be starring in the film, going from the poster on its wiki page.


That's less baffling than the twist.


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