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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 12:13:28 PM   
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Can you explain what you mean a little? I think the film is driven by emotions and by the characters, it strips everything back to a primal level, but it's a very human film. It's all about decisions that the characters make and how one character's lack of a moral compass lead him and many others to a confrontation with someone who is basically a personification of death. 


How is the film driven by emotions? Unless you count money and emotion? It, like Chigurgh, is cold and calculating. Yeah it's tense, but not as tense as it would be if I cared about anyone in it. I inherently disagree that it's a human film.


It is, though. It's about finding yourself at the end of the road and trying to quickly scrounge something together before you lose it all; it's about realising that, no matter what you do, there's always something out there that'll be harder, faster, stronger, worse than you can handle with; it's about trying to achieve something, be something before it's too late; it's about reconciling yourself with failure, disappointment, death. It's bleak and nihilistic, but those are emotions as good as any other.

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The ending was silly as well.


Please, go on.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 2:15:33 PM   
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Can you explain what you mean a little? I think the film is driven by emotions and by the characters, it strips everything back to a primal level, but it's a very human film. It's all about decisions that the characters make and how one character's lack of a moral compass lead him and many others to a confrontation with someone who is basically a personification of death. 


How is the film driven by emotions? Unless you count money and emotion? It, like Chigurgh, is cold and calculating. Yeah it's tense, but not as tense as it would be if I cared about anyone in it. I inherently disagree that it's a human film.


It is, though. It's about finding yourself at the end of the road and trying to quickly scrounge something together before you lose it all; it's about realising that, no matter what you do, there's always something out there that'll be harder, faster, stronger, worse than you can handle with; it's about trying to achieve something, be something before it's too late; it's about reconciling yourself with failure, disappointment, death. It's bleak and nihilistic, but those are emotions as good as any other.



This.

Now Dead Poet's Society is a film with an incredibly silly ending.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 2:39:16 PM   
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86. Perfect Blue (1998, Kon, JPN) - 4/5
[...] if Mulholland Drive hadn't been released three years after Perfect Blue, I'd suggest Kon had taken some serious inspiration from Lynch's muddled and underwhelming film.

You're muddled and underwhelming.

Mullholland Dr >>>>>>> Perfect Blue


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 4:48:46 PM   
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Can you explain what you mean a little? I think the film is driven by emotions and by the characters, it strips everything back to a primal level, but it's a very human film. It's all about decisions that the characters make and how one character's lack of a moral compass lead him and many others to a confrontation with someone who is basically a personification of death. 


How is the film driven by emotions? Unless you count money and emotion? It, like Chigurgh, is cold and calculating. Yeah it's tense, but not as tense as it would be if I cared about anyone in it. I inherently disagree that it's a human film.


It is, though. It's about finding yourself at the end of the road and trying to quickly scrounge something together before you lose it all; it's about realising that, no matter what you do, there's always something out there that'll be harder, faster, stronger, worse than you can handle with; it's about trying to achieve something, be something before it's too late; it's about reconciling yourself with failure, disappointment, death. It's bleak and nihilistic, but those are emotions as good as any other.



This.

Now Dead Poet's Society is a film with an incredibly silly ending.



Oh undoubtedly it's a silly ending. It's ridiculous. I quite like it though.

Spoilers for No Country for Old Men

As for PA's points, I didn't pick up on any of that. I just saw a film that was quite tense right up until Josh Brolin gets shot. I got no sense of any emotional or human connection, just some character archetypes - the chaotic evil, the everyman, the worn out cop. Then the most interesting caricature gets killed, which to me was just the Coen's either a) pissing around for the sake of annoying the audience or b) trying and failing to pull a Hitchcock. Then, it just ends with Chirgurgh limping off and Tommy Lee Jones muttering incoherently about who knows what. I'm not saying I expect resolutions from every film, but No Country's anticlimax felt like a smart ending for the sake of a smart ending, and consequently it was just silly. /worstargumentever

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 4:55:05 PM   
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Spoilers for No Country for Old Men

AThen the most interesting caricature gets killed, which to me was just the Coen's either a) pissing around for the sake of annoying the audience or b) trying and failing to pull a Hitchcock.


Or

c) Following the novel the way it's written.



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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 4:56:17 PM   
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Charley Varrick > No Country For Old Men, substance be damned.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 6:21:55 PM   
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Spoilers for No Country for Old Men

just some character archetypes - the chaotic evil, the everyman, the worn out cop. Then the most interesting caricature gets killed,  /worstargumentever


Quite.

You've got to draw the line somewhere at calling characters archtypes otherwise the film industry is going to run out of characters in the next 2 months.

Yes, evil is often represented as chaotic but in Chigurgh's case he was quite methodical.

Yes, a lot of films will have an everyman, but it's how you present and develope the characters that makes the difference.

Yes the worn out cop is probably the closest thing you could call an archetype in the film's main characters but still you could apply broad terms to capsulate most characters, no doubt in some of your favourite films.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 6:27:36 PM   
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Charley Varrick > No Country For Old Men


Yeah, I agree. Not taking anything away from No Country, but Matthau is incredible in Charley Varrick.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 6:37:50 PM   
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Charley Varrick > No Country For Old Men


Yeah, I agree. Not taking anything away from No Country, but Matthau is incredible in Charley Varrick.


Yup. Both great films, though.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 8:01:46 PM   
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matty, great review of a great film. It's a slightly shameful film to like because it's so obviously sentimental at the end. I just don't have a problem with that.


Yes, I agree. If, say, Chris Columbus had directed it, I'd probably hate it (and can anyone help me with the 'hanging suicide in the snow' mistake I made?). Thanks, though, it's almost enough to make me forgive your No Country dislike.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 9:44:00 PM   
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I'd place NCFOM safely at the bottom of my Coen ranking. Like swords, I admire its technical qualities - cinematography, acting, sparse use of score; it is, however, extremely unengaging to me. Sure beats TWBB, mind.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 10:37:53 PM   
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Anyway, update for September:

Features:

53. Trainspotting (1996, Boyle)
Quite brilliant but also very uneven. The London sequences do almost nothing for me but the disco and the most anti-drug scene of the film (which makes everyone who thinks it glamourises heroin a fucking idiot) are out-fucking-standing. I like Shallow Grave more overall, but I certainly get the acclaim. Also, yay for Connery references. 8

62. Liebe ist kälter als der Tod [Love is Colder Than Death] (1969, Fassbinder)
Clearly influenced by the nouvelle vague, even though it's static when FNW is vibrant, cold when FNW is emotional. It's quite fantastic though really - the atmosphere is amazing, the black-and-white cinematography stark, and Fassbinder's acting awesome. Also, Schygulla is a beauty and a brilliant actress, definitely looking forward to more Fassy films with her. 8

68. Troll 2 (1990, Fragasso)
I was totally drunk when I started and was sobering up while watching it, so there was a slight quality dip, but this is still supreme film-making, with one of the funniest scripts ever. The greatest thing about the whole film is that it's so sincere. I want to see everything Fragasso has ever made now.

84. La carrière de Suzanne [Suzanne’s Career] (1963, Rohmer)
Rohmer delivers the goods as usual. This is very short for a feature and has an over-proportionate amount of voiceover, so it actually feels different from his other films I've seen in terms of pacing. The tone, as usual, is very dry, the unprofessional acting perfect, and the ending brilliant. 8

87. Le boucher [The Butcher] (1970, Chabrol)
I don't even know what my complaints were - a brilliantly executed tragic love story. Will probably go up on a re-watch. 8

97. Que la bête meure [This Man Must Die] (1969, Chabrol)
An interesting take on the revenge film shebang - very quiet and observant. The plot gets very confusing towards the end and I'm not sure it's a good thing, but the film did have an effect on me. 8

100. Dressed to Kill (1980, De Palma)
Psycho meets Argento - gothic absurd brilliance. Too low already. 8

107. The Blue Dahlia (1946, Marshall)
Another one from my noir boxset. I was drawn in by Chandler's involvement, but was pleasantly surprised by the other things as well. The script isn't actually as eloquent as you would expect from Chandler, and the number of possible suspects along with other things makes this only a moderately noir-esque crime mystery, but Ladd and Lake work as well together as one'd expect, the supporting actors (especially Bendix and Da Silva, as well as Costello in his final role) are great, and while it doesn't have the visual flair of certain noir masterpieces, it has some nice compositions. Ultimately, this is a nicely down-to-earth film with great little touches like the thug's treatment of his broken leg and even the clichéd scenes are well executed, like Ladd and Lake in the car. Apart from Destry Rides Again, Marshall doesn't seem to have many renown credits to his name, but based on this, I might just search. 8

125. Hail the Conquering Hero (1944, P. Sturges)
Not nearly as funny as I expected, but has a dramatic punch. Bracken is brilliant in the main role, Raines is also a great unknown lead, and the stock company (except for Pangborn, who is repetitive as fuck) is flawless. The satire is obvious, and this is not nearly as good as Christmas in July (which this resembles except for heroism substituting wealth) or Sturges’ excellent 1941 duo. Still, much better than it could have been. 8

139. Batman Begins (2005, Nolan)
The identity/revenge/whatever themes can go fuck themselves, and Caine and Freeman do truly coast it, but this is pretty awesome, especially Wilkinson. The key to enjoying this was not to be critical as I was with TDK on re-watches, they're about on the same level for me. 8

148. Casino (1995, Scorsese)
Not as good as Goodfellas, but a good film in its own right. The first hour is great with the incessant voiceover, and the third act downfall is brilliant; the bit in the middle drags a bit despite the escalating swearing (though the 400 uses of fuck aren't that noticeable) and violence. The soundtrack is great but unlike in Goodfellas, Scorsese repeats songs (Le Mepris theme and Gimme Shelter, of course) which is a bit disappointing. 8

150. The Odd Couple (1968, Saks)
Lemmon and Matthau! How could this go wrong? It doesn't, but it could go righter, too. The jokes are hit-and-miss and some are dragged out to the point where I was cringing without laughing, but most of this is forgiven with "We're out of cornflakes. F.U." My first experience of a Simon play, and it could be more cinematic, but I certainly wouldn't object to seeing/reading more, which would probably mean watching more Saks movies as well. 7

158. Contes immoraux [Immoral Tales] (1974, Borowczyk)
Whoa, this is some fucked up shit (but in a good way, I guess). The first segment has the dude Rohmer has in a lot of his films being super-creepy and incestual, and from there on it just escalates. The 3rd segment is the stand-out, of course, even if it's extremely unpleasant (despite the copious amount of naked young girls) and slightly drags. The 4th segment - well, I'm looking forward to Showtime's Borgia series now. Overall, I really can't say I was a fan (given that the label is erotica, I expected it to be at least a little erotic, but it really wasn't; the film's slowness is essential but sometimes infuriating), but this was fascinating enough to make me want to check out more of Borowczyk's work (La marge looks interesting as well as his non-erotic stuff). 7

161. All I Desire (1953, Sirk)
Babs is great but she's been better and I pretty much saw this only for her since it's the only film in my Sirk boxset I have heard nothing about. The third act plot device is slightly ridiculous and the small town stuff works one minute and fails the next (the comic relief in particular), but it does have enough dramatic weight to keep it upright. Plus, it's short and not as over-the-top as some of his films seem to be. 7

186. You Only Live Once (1938, Lang)
Disappointing, the film seems to consist of 90% first act or something. Maybe 'couple on the run' movies just aren't for me, I was just as disappointed by Gun Crazy, Badlands, and Bonnie and Clyde. Disappointing =/= bad, however, some cinematic skills are definitely detectable. 7

Shorts:

6. The Cat Concerto (1947, Hanna/Barbera) {7 mins}
Not the best Tom and Jerry, but pretty damn close. Has lost all novelty value by now, of course, but there's not a single off note (see what I did there?). 10

13. Nuit et brouillard [Night and Fog] (1955, Resnais) {30 mins}
2 weeks later, I still don't think I should say anything. 9

31. Antoine et Colette [Antoine and Colette] (1962, Truffaut) {30 mins}
Young Antoine's adventures continue. This is certainly nowhere near the grandeur of 400 Blows, but it's a great film on one-sided love nonetheless. 8

32. La boulangère de Monceau [The Girl at the Monceau Bakery] (1963, Rohmer) {23 mins}
Rohmer boiled down to his essence, which is of course a good thing if not exceptional. 8

36. The Critic (1963, Pintoff) {3 mins}
Anyone who doesn't like this is symbolic of junk. (But it's not as good as I thought) 8

44. Whistle and I'll Come to You (1968, Miller) {42 mins}
Nicely done very British ghost story. 8

52. Hra s kameny (1965, Švankmajer) {8 mins}
Svankmajer has been better but there is not a thing to complain about here. 8

80. The Grandmother (1970, Lynch) {34 mins}
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 4/10/2010 11:12:57 PM   
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 12:57:46 AM   
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86. Perfect Blue (1998, Kon, JPN) - 4/5
Far from having a Hitchcockian vibe, Perfect Blue carries the rather more obvious imprint of David Lynch - the fever-dream second half, the heroine in peril, the blurring of reality and hallucination, the somewhat-grotesque supporting characters.


That description does match Hitchcock too IMO. I think if you'd add the extra surreality it would have been on stronger ground. But the treatment of the female at the centre is far more Hitchcock, IMO.  


Perhaps it's only because I've seen Hitchcock's more canonical works, but I've never really seen much of the fever-dream second half, blurring of reality and hallucination, or (particularly) somewhat grotesque supporting characters in Hitchcock's work. Vertigo is probably the closest, but still - perhaps it's just because, as you say, Kon's tendency towards surreality is far stronger than Hitchcock's, and it divorces the two stylistically - or, at the very least, gives better reference points in other filmmakers.

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86. Perfect Blue (1998, Kon, JPN) - 4/5
[...] if Mulholland Drive hadn't been released three years after Perfect Blue, I'd suggest Kon had taken some serious inspiration from Lynch's muddled and underwhelming film.

You're muddled and underwhelming.

Mullholland Dr >>>>>>> Perfect Blue



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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 1:01:40 AM   
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100. Dressed to Kill (1980, De Palma)
Psycho meets Argento - gothic absurd brilliance. Too low already. 8


Then put it higher up.

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139. Batman Begins (2005, Nolan)
The identity/revenge/whatever themes can go fuck themselves, and Caine and Freeman do truly coast it, but this is pretty awesome, especially Wilkinson. The key to enjoying this was not to be critical as I was with TDK on re-watches, they're about on the same level for me. 8


This review is bizarre. "Fuck all this depth Nolan tries to make and whether it's successful or not, EXPLOSIONS AND WILKINSON AND EXPLOSIONS; also, the only way for me to enjoy was to not actually care."


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 1:04:55 AM   
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I'd place NCFOM safely at the bottom of my Coen ranking. Like swords, I admire its technical qualities - cinematography, acting, sparse use of score; it is, however, extremely unengaging to me. Sure beats TWBB, mind.


Right
So very, very wrong

PA, I get that most films have an every man, it's just how you develop it. But despite a good performance from Brolin I didn't feel as if his character developed at all.

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PA, I get that most films have an every man, it's just how you develop it. But despite a good performance from Brolin I didn't feel as if his character developed at all.


That was Gram, dude. There are three of us saying you're wrong, and given the only person on your side is Miles, I'd be starting to reassess your position if I were you.


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PA, I get that most films have an every man, it's just how you develop it. But despite a good performance from Brolin I didn't feel as if his character developed at all.


That was Gram, dude. There are three of us saying you're wrong, and given the only person on your side is Miles, I'd be starting to reassess your position if I were you.



Actually it was Chris Scott.

There has to be someone (with a valuable opinion) on here that agrees with me.

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PA, I get that most films have an every man, it's just how you develop it. But despite a good performance from Brolin I didn't feel as if his character developed at all.


That was Gram, dude. There are three of us saying you're wrong, and given the only person on your side is Miles, I'd be starting to reassess your position if I were you.



Actually it was Chris Scott.


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100. Dressed to Kill (1980, De Palma)
Psycho meets Argento - gothic absurd brilliance. Too low already. 8


Then put it higher up.
Smartass. I would if I knew where.
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139. Batman Begins (2005, Nolan)
The identity/revenge/whatever themes can go fuck themselves, and Caine and Freeman do truly coast it, but this is pretty awesome, especially Wilkinson. The key to enjoying this was not to be critical as I was with TDK on re-watches, they're about on the same level for me. 8


This review is bizarre. "Fuck all this depth Nolan tries to make and whether it's successful or not, EXPLOSIONS AND WILKINSON AND EXPLOSIONS; also, the only way for me to enjoy was to not actually care."

Yeah, that sounds about right. What's wrong with viewing a dark blockbuster as enjoyable fluff?

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100. Dressed to Kill (1980, De Palma)
Psycho meets Argento - gothic absurd brilliance. Too low already. 8


Then put it higher up.
Smartass.


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This review is bizarre. "Fuck all this depth Nolan tries to make and whether it's successful or not, EXPLOSIONS AND WILKINSON AND EXPLOSIONS; also, the only way for me to enjoy was to not actually care."

Yeah, that sounds about right. What's wrong with viewing a dark blockbuster as enjoyable fluff?


It's more just the vibe of the review being "I can only enjoy this if I actually switch off and ignore 50% of the film and not care about the rest of it".


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 9:10:34 AM   
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When I said "fuck the ... themes" I was grossly exaggerating. The execution of them is not bad, I just don't think they push BB above its comic-book status or whatever. And yeah, it was a nice passive watch otherwise, should have done it with TDK as well like I said.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:06:58 PM   
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Buried (Rodrigo Cortes)
 
Two things to start with - firstly, if you're interested in seeing this, make sure you do so at the cinema, as its impact will only be much, much lessened watching it on a small screen. Secondly, do not read on after the spoiler warning. It's not so much that it's a film of twists and turns, but by the fact that it does all take place in one cramped coffin for 90 minutes, then any development is pretty much a big spoiler (like the one Empire stupidly gave away). SPOILERS Hitchcock would have loved Cortes' audacity for staging the entire film in one coffin, where Paul Conroy (Ryan Reynolds) awakes to find himself buried deep in the ground. I could have done without the shots where Cortes elongates the depth of the coffin endlessly, even if it is done to simply represent Paul's despairing state of mind, but other than that Cortes plays by the rules, fair and square. The opening credits are also very, very Saul Bass and Cortes milks as much black humour and tension out of the situation as Hitchcock surely would have done. If you're claustrophobic, I'd really think twice about seeing this as its hugely and clammily effective at capturing Paul's rising desperation at his predicament. What doesn't help are the various phonecalls he's able to make to government departments and officials to try to help and rescue him, which is where the humour comes him as he's tersely told not to be rude to people endlessly putting him on hold. None of these, however, have the impact of one final call with one particular person that is unbelievably cruel. Reynolds does a sterling job and deserves some kind of award for what he puts himself through here - and if he doesn't get nominated for an Oscar, then the sound designer/editor surely does for making the coffin a creaking, splintering nightmare, with every sound an ominous threat of total collapse, broken only by the slow but steadfast hiss of sand filling the coffin. It all builds up to a genuinely frightening and nail biting final ten minutes that ends with a perfectly-pitched ending and one of the most devastating final lines of dialogue you're likely to hear. It's a hugely impressive achievement by Cortes and Reynolds and one that will surely feature in future lists of greatest endings ever. (8.5/10)

Nowhere Boy (Sam Taylor-Wood)
 
The most impressive thing about Taylor-Wood's film of the teenage John Lennon (Aaron Johnson) caught in the tug-of-war between his strict Aunt Mimi (Kristin Scott Thomas) and carefree mother, Julia (Anne Marie Duff), is it balances the ordinary aspects of an extraordinary man's life very effectively. The film restrains itself from constantly alluding to Lennon's impending fame (although I did love the very first chord of music you hear in the film) and instead constructs an affecting portrait of teenage rebellion and heartbreak. 60s Liverpool and teenage life is captured immaculately, and so is the evolving character of Lennon - all the aspects of him are here from his sharp-tongued sarcasm, to his loving nature, rebellious spirit and violent temper and Johnson acquits himself very well in the role. The only time he really flounders in the role is when he's asked to demonstrate emotional grief, but mostly he's fine and does a grand job of convincing you that he is who he's supposed to be. His first meeting with Paul McCartney (Thomas Sangster) is presented with importance, but not portentous, and while Sangster doesn't really get that much to do with the role, the contrasts and connection between the two is done simply enough that you can't help but wish that there was a Channel Four mini-series featuring these two. The best stuff is with Mimi, however, who is developed from the initial icy bitch that you think she is. This leads up to the most affecting scene in the film when she's filling in John's passport forms at the end for his upcoming Hamburg tour and asks whether she should sign as parent or guardian - his reply of "Both" and her reaction to it, is a moment that is played superbly by both of them. It's a charming film that only tells a small aspect of a musical giant's life, but does so with wit and affection (8/10)

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:27:08 PM   
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Regarding Buried, if I think the hype for Ryan Reynolds is fairly bewildering and I find him quite smug, is this likely to change my mind?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:34:25 PM   
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I'm looking forward to Buried.

Re Nowhere Boy, I was left a bit passive by it, possibly because the film didn't tell me anything I already knew, or show me anything I already felt. This isn't totally the films fault, I do have a big interest in The Beatles and have a dozen or so books on them, so there isn't really much else for me to learn, and I appriciate that the film has to appeal to a wider church than slightly nutty people who have read hundreds of articles and biographies of somebody, but it does lead to the question - who exactly are these biopics for? Big fans aren't going to learn anything, and if you didn't have an interest in Lennon, why would you go and watch it?* The performances are really good, and the whole era evoked impressively, but I couldn't love it. I had exactly the same issue with The Runaways recently.


*Before Homer comes in and says "Oh I watched it and I know nothing about the Beatles" - a) You watched it with me, so theres no evidence at all you would have watched it without me, and b) As a film fan who basically watches everything you're always sort of going to be the exception rather than the rule.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:41:22 PM   
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80. The Grandmother (1970, Lynch) {34 mins}
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:51:32 PM   
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Regarding Buried, if I think the hype for Ryan Reynolds is fairly bewildering and I find him quite smug, is this likely to change my mind?



Well, I've always found him slightly irritating (Rules of Attraction aside), but he did impress me in this. Probably more for the fact he truly looked like he was suffering for his art!

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 5:52:47 PM   
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I'm looking forward to Buried.

Re Nowhere Boy, I was left a bit passive by it, possibly because the film didn't tell me anything I already knew, or show me anything I already felt. This isn't totally the films fault, I do have a big interest in The Beatles and have a dozen or so books on them, so there isn't really much else for me to learn, and I appriciate that the film has to appeal to a wider church than slightly nutty people who have read hundreds of articles and biographies of somebody, but it does lead to the question - who exactly are these biopics for? Big fans aren't going to learn anything, and if you didn't have an interest in Lennon, why would you go and watch it?* The performances are really good, and the whole era evoked impressively, but I couldn't love it. I had exactly the same issue with The Runaways recently.


*Before Homer comes in and says "Oh I watched it and I know nothing about the Beatles" - a) You watched it with me, so theres no evidence at all you would have watched it without me, and b) As a film fan who basically watches everything you're always sort of going to be the exception rather than the rule.


Yeah, I get that and though I rate it quite highly, I don't imagine it will be something I'll be rewatching again in a hurry. Having said that, I knew Lennon had maternal issues, but didn't know the details, so found it quite enlightening in that context.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 8:17:35 PM   
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Regarding Buried, if I think the hype for Ryan Reynolds is fairly bewildering and I find him quite smug, is this likely to change my mind?



Well, I've always found him slightly irritating (Rules of Attraction aside), but he did impress me in this. Probably more for the fact he truly looked like he was suffering for his art!


He's in Rules of Attraction? I don't remember him, but I haven't seen it in ages. The other problem with Buried is that the basic idea seems to have been done before. I'll probably see it at some point.

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who exactly are these biopics for? Big fans aren't going to learn anything, and if you didn't have an interest in Lennon, why would you go and watch it?*


With someone like Lennon he's going to be famous enough to have plenty of fans who are just casual fans. They like the music but haven't a clue about much of the backstory so they're going to get more out of the film. From that point of view I guess something like Control is more puzzling (great film that it is) because Ian Curtis isn't a mainstream star in the same sense, so it really does feel more aimed at the fans. At the end of the day I guess it's just people making films about people they feel passionate about.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 5/10/2010 8:18:31 PM   
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80. The Grandmother (1970, Lynch) {34 mins}
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