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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:07:14 AM   
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Rick I watched A Tree Grows in Brooklyn last night because of your rating of it. Whilst I'd never say it was as good as you did, it was very enjoyable (and heartbreaking at points).

Cool! Which bits did you like? My favourite is Dunn's version of Annie Laurie, but all his scenes are just great. Great cast, too: Dorothy McGuire, Joan Blondell, Lloyd Nolan (who played Mike Shayne in the '40s detective series). And Charles Halton as a camp, gossipy rent collector.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:23:32 AM   
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Dunn is the best thing in it

SPOILERS

I loved it when it became bleaker, culminating in Johnny's death. There seemed no hope for them then and although I suppose I'm not supposed to enjoy that, it's certainly the best part of it.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:45:27 AM   
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I'm sorry for the lack of reviews with this lot - my latest filmography. If I get a moment I'll try and blurb them but I've got about another 20 to do as it is. All June/July watches.

A Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat, 1983)
A Self-Made Hero (Jacques Audiard, 1996)
Bread and Chocolate (Franco Brusati, 1973)
Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988)
Coup de Torchon (Bertrand Tavernier, 1981)
Dear Diary (Nanni Moretti, 1993)
Gomorra (Matteo Gorrone, 2008)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995)
The Icicle Thief (Maurizio Nichetti, 1989)
Il Divo (Paulo Sorrentino, 2008)
Indochine (Regis Wargnier, 1992)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986)
Judge and the Assassin (Bertrand Tavernier, 1976)
Lacombe Lucien (Louis Malle, 1974)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997)
Lou Lou (Mauriece Pialat, 1980)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986)
Night of the Shooting Stars(Tavernier Brothers, 1982)
Police(Maurice Pialat, 1985)
Preparez Les Moucher (Bertrand Blier, 1978)
Le Reine Margot (Patrice Chereau, 1994)
Seven Beauties (Lina Wertmuller, 1975)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969)
Les Valseuses (Bertrand Blier, 1974)
Watchmaker of St Paul (Bertrand Tavernier, 1974)

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:53:48 AM   
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I'll do it for you:

Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988) - Fantastic, especially the shorter version. Haven't seen it for years, mind, though it's on the pile by the telly. (4)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995) - Great (4)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980) - Not great (2.5/3)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969) - Beyond great (4)
Click (Frank Coraci, 2006) - Not as keen on this. (1)


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:55:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rick_7

Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)



Is that 4 out of 100?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 10:57:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rick_7
I'll do it for you:

Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988) - Fantastic, especially the shorter version. Haven't seen it for years, mind, though it's on the pile by the telly. (4)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995) - Great (4)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980) - Not great (2.5/3)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969) - Beyond great (4)
Click (Frank Coraci, 2006) - Not as keen on this. (1)


You missed some.
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:00:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rick_7

Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)



Is that 4 out of 100?


Ah, bloody cut-and-paste. 3.5, I'll grant you.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:00:34 AM   
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By the way, elab, you might have missed my question - how did you rate Doppelganger and Seance?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:00:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gram123

quote:

ORIGINAL: rick_7
I'll do it for you:

Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988) - Fantastic, especially the shorter version. Haven't seen it for years, mind, though it's on the pile by the telly. (4)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995) - Great (4)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980) - Not great (2.5/3)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986) - Great (4)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969) - Beyond great (4)
Click (Frank Coraci, 2006) - Not as keen on this. (1)


You missed some.
Half-a-job Harry.

Haven't seen the rest - but The Icicle Thief has always sounded really good.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:02:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rick_7

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

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ORIGINAL: rick_7

Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)



Is that 4 out of 100?


Ah, bloody cut-and-paste. 3.5, I'll grant you.


3.5 out of 100 is still too high.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:02:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49
I'm sorry for the lack of reviews with this lost - my latest filmography. If I get a moment I'll try and blurb them but I've got about another 20 to do as it is. All June/July watches.

A Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat, 1983)
A Self-Made Hero (Jacques Audiard, 1996)
Blood and Chocolate (Franco Brusati, 1973)
Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988)
Coup de Torchon (Bertrand Tavernier, 1981)
Dear Diary (Nanni Moretti, 1993)
Gomorra (Matteo Gorrone, 2008)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995)
The Icicle Thief (Maurizio Nichetti, 1989)
Il Divo (Paulo Sorrentino, 2008)
Indochine (Regis Wargnier, 1992)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986)
Judge and the Assassin (Bertrand Tavernier, 1976)
Lacombe Lucien (Louis Malle, 1974)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997)
Lou Lou (Mauriece Pialat, 1980)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986)
Night of the Shooting Stars(Tavernier Brothers, 1982)
Police(Maurice Pialat, 1985)
Preparez Les Moucher (Bertrand Blier, 1978)
Le Reine Margot (Patrice Chereau, 1994)
Seven Beauties (Lina Wertmuller, 1975)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969)
Les Valseuses (Bertrand Blier, 1974)
Watchmaker of St Paul (Bertrand Tavernier, 1974)

Been in a bit of a French mood lately, then?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:04:12 AM   
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Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997) - Great (4)



Is that 4 out of 100?



In my essay I refer to it as Italian cinemas attempt to Disneyfy the Holocaust.

I'm actually fairly Ok with the rest of Rick's rankings though although my favourites on the list remain Il Divo and Watchmaker of St Paul. I'd forgotten how much I liked Dear Diary and how much I loathed Nichetti. And I just realised - bugger  - that I've left off The Truce. Have you tried the Taviani Brothers Rick? I think you might like them. Not, as I've also mistakenly down in my Filmography - double bugger - called them the Taverniers.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:05:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gram123

quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49
I'm sorry for the lack of reviews with this lost - my latest filmography. If I get a moment I'll try and blurb them but I've got about another 20 to do as it is. All June/July watches.

A Nos Amours (Maurice Pialat, 1983)
A Self-Made Hero (Jacques Audiard, 1996)
Blood and Chocolate (Franco Brusati, 1973)
Cinema Paradiso (Guiseppe Tornatore, 1988)
Coup de Torchon (Bertrand Tavernier, 1981)
Dear Diary (Nanni Moretti, 1993)
Gomorra (Matteo Gorrone, 2008)
La Haine (Matthieu Kassovitz, 1995)
The Icicle Thief (Maurizio Nichetti, 1989)
Il Divo (Paulo Sorrentino, 2008)
Indochine (Regis Wargnier, 1992)
Jean de Florette (Claude Berri, 1986)
Judge and the Assassin (Bertrand Tavernier, 1976)
Lacombe Lucien (Louis Malle, 1974)
Last Metro (Francois Truffaut, 1980)
Life is Beautiful ( Roberto Benigni, 1997)
Lou Lou (Mauriece Pialat, 1980)
Manon des Sources (Claude Berri, 1986)
Night of the Shooting Stars(Tavernier Brothers, 1982)
Police(Maurice Pialat, 1985)
Preparez Les Moucher (Bertrand Blier, 1978)
Le Reine Margot (Patrice Chereau, 1994)
Seven Beauties (Lina Wertmuller, 1975)
The Sorrow and the Pity (Max Ophuls, 1969)
Les Valseuses (Bertrand Blier, 1974)
Watchmaker of St Paul (Bertrand Tavernier, 1974)

Been in a bit of a French mood lately, then?

I'd a choice of France and Italy or France and Germay. The latter would have meant even more Fassbinder

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:06:35 AM   
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I'd to look up Click

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:08:57 AM   
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Haven't seen the rest - but The Icicle Thief has always sounded really good.


The idea is sound, I think. I reserve my Mr Bean type hate for Nichetti. Much of the problem, I think, is that he's so chuffed with his idea of using an icon of Italian cinema to make his point about TV and commercialism devaluing the form that he spends to much time with his revamp of it - it's almost like he wants to recreate the entire film instead of using it to make a point. Most of it could have been cut and the entire film would have worked better as a longish short (and without Nichetti).

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:09:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

I'd to look up Click


Still refusing to come out of your Adam-Sandler-fandom-closet?

quote:

In my essay I refer to it as Italian cinemas attempt to Disneyfy the Holocaust.




Mickey would have been Hitler. There was always something of the dictator in the way he dealt with Pluto.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:15:38 AM   
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It was all round someone called Novell-Smith's contention that European film now is all just uncontentious period stuff that disneyfy's Europe (with only a couple of exceptions) - Life is Beautiful was a perfect example for what is a truly awful generalisation. My favourite line in my essay, though,  was

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recent films from Italy have seen subjects as (apparently) diverse as Andreotti (Il Divo) and the Camorra (Gomorra) being examined


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:17:05 AM   
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43. Bakha satang [Peppermint Candy] (1999, Lee)
Astounding stuff. If the subtitles wouldn't be crap and the viewing wouldn't be constantly interrupted this would probably get a higher mark, so certainly looking forward to a re-watch (and Lee's other stuff). Although the film is told backwards, the technique has a different purpose to Memento. While the latter uses it to create suspense by leaving the viewer as unaware of what 'just happened' as Leonard, Peppermint Candy strips away the layers of a tormented man to reveal a soul. Kim is a complex character brilliantly played by Sol Kyung-gu. The corruption of innocence depicted is extremely potent, and the genius of it is in the repetition of certain events throughout the protagonist's life. Some of the film's scenes (like the hospital visit) are absolutely amazing, as powerful as anything I've ever seen. Even though the messages are basic (and perhaps reliant on the knowledge of Korean history, which is not a bad thing per se, but just like with JSA, this means the film is harder to approach), it's the structure of the film that provides "substance", and it is brilliant. My only complaint about the actual film would be the train shots between periods of time. They're pretty and tranquil but I didn't get why they had to be included. Anyway, great, great stuff. 8

49. Le mépris [Contempt] (1963, Godard)
While I'm not quite with Paul here, rick and elab are wrong as usual. Haters gonna hate.
I still don't find Godard totally approachable, but this was very impressive. The settings perfectly suit the events, the constant loose translations within the film actually added to my impressions of being on the actual set. The montages to statues give this an interesting feel. 60s seem to have a lot of "marriage goes wrong" films: La Notte, this, Virginia Woolf, Faces. The central story of this wasn't as interesting as the rest though. The scene often named as the crux of the film (the flat) was curiously the one that elicited the least response from me. Delerue's stirring score and those stunning visuals, Bardot's raw sexuality, and the awesomeness that is Lang make this Godard's 2nd best film that I've seen so far though. I guess Une Femme est Une Femme is Godard''s most positive film I've seen so far (no violent protagonist death at the end, either). 8

69. Tôkyô nagaremono [Tokyo Drifter] (1966, Suzuki)
I thought Suzuki would be my sort of director, and I was right. The plot is thin and the characterisation patchy, but this super-stylish flick about a lone yakuza certainly delivered the goods. This is 60s through-and-through. Cheerfully surreal, full of vibrant (and freely changing) colours, featuring a silly (but incredible) mass fight scene, a catchy pop ballad about the said drifter that he sings himself. It's firmly rooted in its time and location, frequently setting the Tokyo scene just like Ozu would, only with flashing neon signs and back-and-forth wipe cuts. Quick and energetic, almost aimless, but then again ghe characters' allegiances are suitably murky. I don't get how this gets dismissed as style over substance: if anything, I was hoping for something crazier. Guess it's time for Branded to Kill. 8

90. All That Heaven Allows (1955, Sirk)
Very good. Reading some of my older reviews I seem to use melodramatic as a criticism, so I approached this with a certain amount of trepidation. It wasn't actually as melodramatic as I expected it to be, and I don't even think that it's a bad thing anymore. At its heart, ATHA is a film about inner happiness and one of the points it makes is that the reactions to the couple are exaggerated, so why wouldn't these scenes being melodramatic? The film's only couple of flaws are the overuse of the (admittedly good) score and the happy ending (the original ambiguous one would be better). Also, perhaps it spells out its point too much at times (though perhaps that's ironic). On the positive side, the performances all do their job and the emotion feels genuine. The visuals are a perfect time capsule. The editing is also great (like the simple tree transition shot).
Comparisons to Fear Eats the Soul were inevitable, because of the constant rattle about Sirk's influences on Fassbinder. Both are definitely great in their own ways. I probably prefer the Fassbinder, but not by much. Looking forward to the rest of the boxset. 8

112. Halloween (1978, Carpenter)
I'll start with the good things: Carpenter's score creates a great atmosphere and the beginning and the end are awesome. Pleasance is great. The rest, however, didn't quite live up to my expectations created by Carpenter's superb The Thing. I know that it's not responsible for the countless films that imitated it, but the acting is still patchy, the writing totally bland, the murders after a while get repetitive and only cater for jump scares (though there's one classic kill there, and the jump scares themselves are well realised), and the victims are stupider than they should be. Also, why build up that Myers would come back to his house if he doesn't? It's also less identifiable than The Thing, the sci-fi paranoia of it replaced by a supernatural superstition. A bit of a let-down. 7

155. The Great Moment (1944, P. Sturges)
I was warned this is one of his weakest, and whoever warned me was right. Maybe the studio is to blame, but the schmaltz here is often inexcusable, and McCrea's greatness is balanced by Field's almost camp performance. It's telling that in a serious biopic, the scenes which I thought were the best were the comic relief provided by Demarest (who's the best thing about many Sturges films, but still). The ending, with its Ave Maria and the grand sentiment, could work in another film, but the story asked for a better execution. The flashbacks are also neither here nor there. It's decent, mind, but certainly the weakest Sturges I've seen. 6

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:20:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

In my essay I refer to it as Italian cinemas attempt to Disneyfy the Holocaust.

Ouch... though I don't agree.

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I'm actually fairly Ok with the rest of Rick's rankings though although my favourites on the list remain Il Divo and Watchmaker of St Paul. I'd forgotten how much I liked Dear Diary and how much I loathed Nichetti. And I just realised - bugger  - that I've left off The Truce. Have you tried the Taviani Brothers Rick? I think you might like them. Not, as I've also mistakenly down in my Filmography - double bugger - called them the Taverniers.

The chap in Lift to the Scaffold is called Tavernier, isn't he?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:24:00 AM   
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It was all round someone called Novell-Smith's contention that European film now is all just uncontentious period stuff that disneyfy's Europe (with only a couple of exceptions) - Life is Beautiful was a perfect example for what is a truly awful generalisation. My favourite line in my essay, though,  was

quote:

recent films from Italy have seen subjects as (apparently) diverse as Andreotti (Il Divo) and the Camorra (Gomorra) being examined





Not Geoffrey Nowell-Smith was it? I always found him to be vaguely annoying.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:24:28 AM   
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43. Bakha satang [Peppermint Candy] (1999, Lee)
Astounding stuff. If the subtitles wouldn't be crap


I think that's the second criticism of the UK release's subtitles? That's really quite depressing if it hampers the films chances. And for the viewer, of course.

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The chap in Lift to the Scaffold is called Tavernier, isn't he? 



I'd to check that - I remembered the Julien part

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:25:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

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ORIGINAL: elab49

It was all round someone called Novell-Smith's contention that European film now is all just uncontentious period stuff that disneyfy's Europe (with only a couple of exceptions) - Life is Beautiful was a perfect example for what is a truly awful generalisation. My favourite line in my essay, though,  was

quote:

recent films from Italy have seen subjects as (apparently) diverse as Andreotti (Il Divo) and the Camorra (Gomorra) being examined





Not Geoffrey Nowell-Smith was it? I always found him to be vaguely annoying.



This is the chappy - it's in his conclusion to the Oxford History of World Cinema (he may also rave about Tarantino in the same section).

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:26:25 AM   
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43. Bakha satang [Peppermint Candy] (1999, Lee)
Astounding stuff. If the subtitles wouldn't be crap


I think that's the second criticism of the UK release's subtitles? That's really quite depressing if it hampers the films chances. And for the viewer, of course.



Was that confirmed it was PC for the earlier one? I thought it was between that and The Host.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:30:57 AM   
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49. Le mépris [Contempt] (1963, Godard)
While I'm not quite with Paul here, rick and elab are wrong as usual. Haters gonna hate.

I have literally no idea what that means.

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I still don't find Godard totally approachable, but this was very impressive. The settings perfectly suit the events, the constant loose translations within the film actually added to my impressions of being on the actual set. The montages to statues give this an interesting feel. 60s seem to have a lot of "marriage goes wrong" films: La Notte, this, Virginia Woolf, Faces. The central story of this wasn't as interesting as the rest though. The scene often named as the crux of the film (the flat) was curiously the one that elicited the least response from me. Delerue's stirring score and those stunning visuals, Bardot's raw sexuality, and the awesomeness that is Lang make this Godard's 2nd best film that I've seen so far though. I guess Une Femme est Une Femme is Godard''s most positive film I've seen so far (no violent protagonist death at the end, either). 8

It's essentially just a repetitive, banal argument between a dislikeable man and an annoying woman, with sporadically appealing window dressing. Lucas does Godard - tedious and pointless.

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90. All That Heaven Allows (1955, Sirk)
Very good. Reading some of my older reviews I seem to use melodramatic as a criticism, so I approached this with a certain amount of trepidation. It wasn't actually as melodramatic as I expected it to be, and I don't even think that it's a bad thing anymore. At its heart, ATHA is a film about inner happiness and one of the points it makes is that the reactions to the couple are exaggerated, so why wouldn't these scenes being melodramatic? The film's only couple of flaws are the overuse of the (admittedly good) score and the happy ending (the original ambiguous one would be better). Also, perhaps it spells out its point too much at times (though perhaps that's ironic). On the positive side, the performances all do their job and the emotion feels genuine. The visuals are a perfect time capsule. The editing is also great (like the simple tree transition shot).
Comparisons to Fear Eats the Soul were inevitable, because of the constant rattle about Sirk's influences on Fassbinder. Both are definitely great in their own ways. I probably prefer the Fassbinder, but not by much. Looking forward to the rest of the boxset. 8

That is an excellent film. Incredibly well-directed.

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112. Halloween (1978, Carpenter)
I'll start with the good things: Carpenter's score creates a great atmosphere and the beginning and the end are awesome. Pleasance is great. The rest, however, didn't quite live up to my expectations created by Carpenter's superb The Thing. I know that it's not responsible for the countless films that imitated it, but the acting is still patchy, the murders after a while get repetitive and only cater for jump scares (though there's one classic kill there, and the jump scares themselves are well realised), and the victims are stupider than they should be. Also, why build up that Myers would come back to his house if he doesn't? It's also less identifiable than The Thing, the sci-fi paranoia of it replaced by a supernatural superstition. A bit of a let-down. 7

True enough. Carpenter made some great stuff during this period - Assault on Precinct 13 (one of the best action movies ever), Escape From New York and The Thing - but I find it impossible to enjoy any slasher movies; and I find people who are really excited by them a little bit weird. I suppose, as with Queen, I can understand why Hallowe'en is well made (up to a point), but I don't like it.

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155. The Great Moment (1944, P. Sturges)
I was warned this is one of his weakest, and whoever warned me was right. Maybe the studio is to blame, but the schmaltz here is often inexcusable, and McCrea's greatness is balanced by Field's almost camp performance. It's telling that in a serious biopic, the scenes which I thought were the best were the comic relief provided by Demarest (who's the best thing about many Sturges films, but still). The ending, with its Ave Maria and the grand sentiment, could work in another film, but the story asked for a better execution. The flashbacks are also neither here nor there. It's decent, mind, but certainly the weakest Sturges I've seen. 6

I rather like it, though I don't doubt that Sturges' original cut was vastly superior. His titles certainly were, as The Great Moment is a terrible name for a film.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:31:06 AM   
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It was all round someone called Novell-Smith's contention that European film now is all just uncontentious period stuff that disneyfy's Europe (with only a couple of exceptions) - Life is Beautiful was a perfect example for what is a truly awful generalisation. My favourite line in my essay, though,  was

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recent films from Italy have seen subjects as (apparently) diverse as Andreotti (Il Divo) and the Camorra (Gomorra) being examined





Not Geoffrey Nowell-Smith was it? I always found him to be vaguely annoying.



This is the chappy - it's in his conclusion to the Oxford History of World Cinema (he may also rave about Tarantino in the same section).


Yeah, that is a rather short-sighted quote from the editor of the History of World Cinema.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:33:05 AM   
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49. Le mépris [Contempt] (1963, Godard)
While I'm not quite with Paul here, rick and elab are wrong as usual. Haters gonna hate.

I have literally no idea what that means.



I don't think Miles does either.

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Lucas does Godard - tedious and pointless.




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but I find it impossible to enjoy any slasher movies; and I find people who are really excited by them a little bit weird.




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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:36:09 AM   
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I've done an essay on the history of cinema. It begins:
 
"Recent years have seen the release of films tackling subjects as diverse as Batman (The Dark Knight) and penguins (March of the Penguins)."

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:44:57 AM   
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43. Bakha satang [Peppermint Candy] (1999, Lee)
Astounding stuff. If the subtitles wouldn't be crap


I think that's the second criticism of the UK release's subtitles? That's really quite depressing if it hampers the films chances. And for the viewer, of course.



Was that confirmed it was PC for the earlier one? I thought it was between that and The Host.



I think The Host's are the same as the ones FIlm4 use and there isn't anything wrong with them.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:47:24 AM   
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I've done an essay on the history of cinema. It begins:
 
"Recent years have seen the release of films tackling subjects as diverse as Batman (The Dark Knight) and penguins (March of the Penguins)."


You've forgotten the word 'apparently' - that's the kicker

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Lucas does Godard - tedious and pointless.


Et tu Rick?

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 16/7/2010 11:51:09 AM   
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Well, I preferred Cars to Le mepris.

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