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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 6:13:19 PM   
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#105. The Crimson Kimono (1959, Samuel Fuller, USA)

Samuel Fuller really had quite a wonderful 1959, writing and directing two actually very good films which are as different in genre as they are similar in quality. This film, the awesomely named "The Crimson Kimono”, stars Glenn Corbett as Detective Sergeant Charlie Bancroft and James Shigeta as Detective Joe Kojaku, two detectives who seek a stripper's murderer in Los Angeles, or more specifically the Japanese quarter of the city. However, a love triangle also involving Christine Downs (Victoria Shaw) not only threatens to jeopardize the case, but also their friendship. I think I'll get the main negative out of the way first, because I think Fuller's films (or at least the ones that I have, so far, managed to see) are more enjoyable than critical appraisal would suggest. In both "Shock Corridor” and "Verboten!” I had problems with the story or the way it was told, and here I think the murder aspect of the film, again, struggles, and probably brings the film down. I loved the melodramatic love story and the slow breaking of a friendship in this film, but I think the murder mystery itself lacks a lot in both competence and (at times at least) coherency. However, as this is only one aspect of a film that is primarily about the central love triangle, I can let that slide quite easily. This melodramatic tale of relationships is expertly told, dwelling on both male rivalry and race relations to create a difficult, multi-textured love story that keeps you guessing from beginning to end. And what an end, culminating in a bitter sweet, convention-shunning stand-off between two men who were – at the film's outset – seemingly great friends. A film about racism in all of its forms (the prejudices in this film can be obvious or they can be subtle and underlying), "The Crimson Kimono” is an excellent film, featuring a trio of superb performances and a whole host of emotional moments about the people that inhabit its grimy, noir-ish world. 4/5.



Adore The Crimson Kimono. Adore Samuel Fuller. I take your point about the negative, but it really doesn't matter to me. It's not quite in the same league as Pickup on South Street (few films are) but it's probably my second favourite Fuller film. Although House of Bamboo, The Naked Kiss and The Big Red One would be challenging for that position too.


I'm trying to get through a bunch of Fuller films before submitting my director list to Rhubarb, so thanks for the recommendations!


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 6:16:51 PM   
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I think Rick and Rawlinson and I would also recommend Park Row

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 6:18:51 PM   
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I recorded Park Row, hope it's better than my first Fuller, The Big Red One. Fixed Bayonets is also on my lovefilm list.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 6:30:43 PM   
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I have still only seen White dog, but I liked that one a lot. Its probably too late for me to consider him for the directors poll.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 6:31:36 PM   
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White Dog - read the novel, I haven't seen the film, but from what I've read about it, it's a travesty compared to the source.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 7:36:22 PM   
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The Taking of Pelham One Two Three, that's a great film. The Matthau, obviously.



Come on, its got nothing on the Tony Scott one. No I'm kidding.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 7:50:59 PM   
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 7:54:18 PM   
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Actually haven't watched anything in days. But this week i'm going to go through them like a mad child to see if some directors can make the greatest list in the greatest poll of all time.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 7:56:26 PM   
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I was covering a year 9 geography class today and as it was their last geography lesson of the year they were watching 2012. Bloody hell I have never seen a film that was so thoroughly built around cliches! Awful. I wanted everyone to die.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 7:58:15 PM   
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I never bothered with 2012, despite the presence of Cusack. It looks so dull.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 8:18:35 PM   
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Cusack was the only bright spark in it.

The script was so awful it was even worse than the raft of completely unrealistic moments. I know it's not supposed to be scientifically accurate, but there were so many moments of complete bollocks I couldn't help thinking the writers were just playing a game of dare.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 8:25:32 PM   
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I enjoyed the first 90 minutes of 2012, then it went for fun crap to really boring crap.


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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:04:46 PM   
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Or the five films I just reviewed (rather amazingly if I say so myself). We could talk about one of those?


I'm still blind with fury over your low score for Faces.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:06:04 PM   
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Only decent football film (I've no idea about this but it's all I can remember at the moment) is Shaolin Soccer.

Unless you count a goodly part of Porridge the Movie.


The Cup, is pretty good. And this is coming from a non-football-fan.

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Is it wrong that the thing that annoyed me most about this film was the title card saying 1600 immediately followed by an anachronistic shot of a Union Jack that didn't exist till 6 years later?


[pedant] It's only the 'Union Jack' on a ship. It's the 'Union Flag' otherwise.[/pedant]

Unless, of course, said flag is on a ship in the film. I forget. I've tried to scour that film from my memory...


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Trying to explain my love for Breathless would be like trying to explain my love for Ben and Jerry's, Ice Blasts, Gammon Hawaii, or to a lesser extent, my girlfriend.



Someone asks why you love your favourite film, and this is your answer? Some may say this is a 'cop out' answer.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:13:36 PM   
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Just after the title says 1600 a ship sails past the camera with the Union xxxx flying off the back of it.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:14:45 PM   
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Or the five films I just reviewed (rather amazingly if I say so myself). We could talk about one of those?


I'm still blind with fury over your low score for Faces.

Speaking of Cassavetes,
126. Shadows (1959, Cassavetes)
High expectations, not fulfilled, unfortunately. It may be the birth of American independent cinema, but it feels amateurish. The acting may be improvised, but it felt like the actors were acting at the audience instead of actually acting (this probably only makes sense in my mind, but whatever). The score is cool, but the film itself mostly feels jarring and disjointed, despite a couple of good moments. And I'm not sure how I feel about watching more Cassavetes, because on one hand his later films should be more professional but they're also much longer and I don't think I can take people being assholes without reason for 2 and a half hours. Still, I own the boxset so I guess I will. 7

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:14:49 PM   
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OK, well, that's ok then. Jack it is. 

The film's still a big steaming turd, though.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:16:22 PM   
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I don't think I can take people being assholes without reason for 2 and a half hours.


But you spend all that time at TLC.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:17:26 PM   
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And here, but my point still stands.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:18:53 PM   
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I got it right completely by accident then

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:21:33 PM   
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Or the five films I just reviewed (rather amazingly if I say so myself). We could talk about one of those?


I'm still blind with fury over your low score for Faces.

Speaking of Cassavetes,
126. Shadows (1959, Cassavetes)
High expectations, not fulfilled, unfortunately. It may be the birth of American independent cinema, but it feels amateurish. The acting may be improvised, but it felt like the actors were acting at the audience instead of actually acting (this probably only makes sense in my mind, but whatever). The score is cool, but the film itself mostly feels jarring and disjointed, despite a couple of good moments. And I'm not sure how I feel about watching more Cassavetes, because on one hand his later films should be more professional but they're also much longer and I don't think I can take people being assholes without reason for 2 and a half hours. Still, I own the boxset so I guess I will. 7


Why a 7? Why not a 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, or 1?

Also, wrong again .


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:23:22 PM   
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Shut up.
I didn't hate any of it, and I liked bits of it (plus the score), I just thought the acting was pretty strange (not in a good way) and that it felt disjointed. Actually, it should be a bit lower on the 7 scale, but it's still a 7.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:25:10 PM   
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Trying to explain my love for Breathless would be like trying to explain my love for Ben and Jerry's, Ice Blasts, Gammon Hawaii, or to a lesser extent, my girlfriend.



Someone asks why you love your favourite film, and this is your answer? Some may say this is a 'cop out' answer.



Oh ho ho. Except it was much better than your "I dunno, I don't understand it, its nonsensical, and silly, and goes on a bit long but i still like it cos i'm a Kubrick fanboy" answer, no?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:38:13 PM   
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Right, that's what I said verbatim. 

Anyway, I'm reectifying this lack-of-answer with much verbosity.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:40:03 PM   
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Its hard to do a shrug of the shoulders verbatim.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 9:50:48 PM   
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Speaking of Cassavetes,
126. Shadows (1959, Cassavetes)
High expectations, not fulfilled, unfortunately. It may be the birth of American independent cinema, but it feels amateurish.


Aren't most independent movements based on a rejection of glossy professionalism, and an adoption of something approaching amateurism (even it's not amateur)?

Lulz, intellectual.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 10:02:15 PM   
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May he thought the attempt to be amateurish was in itself amateurish?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 10:03:57 PM   
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Maybe he thought the attempt to be amateurish was an amateurish attempt at being amatuerish and therefore not amateurish at all, but something beyond amateur, a kind of double-amateurism.

Miles is clearly the finest film theorist of his generation.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 10:04:42 PM   
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Speaking of Cassavetes,
126. Shadows (1959, Cassavetes)
High expectations, not fulfilled, unfortunately. It may be the birth of American independent cinema, but it feels amateurish.


Aren't most independent movements based on a rejection of glossy professionalism, and an adoption of something approaching amateurism (even it's not amateur)?

Lulz, intellectual.
I think we're talking about two different definitions of amateur here. There's amateur as in amateur porn, which means it's stripped of glossy professionalism and often more worthwhile (not my sentiment, BTW, I read it in a Soderbergh interview with Esquire), and there's an amateur car mechanic, who definitely won't do the job as well as a professional even though it will cost less.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 12/7/2010 10:05:52 PM   
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Speaking of Cassavetes,
126. Shadows (1959, Cassavetes)
High expectations, not fulfilled, unfortunately. It may be the birth of American independent cinema, but it feels amateurish.


Aren't most independent movements based on a rejection of glossy professionalism, and an adoption of something approaching amateurism (even it's not amateur)?

Lulz, intellectual.
I think we're talking about two different definitions of amateur here. There's amateur as in amateur porn, which means it's stripped of glossy professionalism and often more worthwhile (not my sentiment, BTW, I read it in a Soderbergh interview with Esquire), and there's an amateur car mechanic, who definitely won't do the job as well as a professional even though it will cost less.


I was just thinking about Sarah Records or something, to be honest.

And lolz at you jumping straight to porn as an example. Rawl has completley corrupted you.

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