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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:23:20 PM   
elab49


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It was defending you (hence the disparaging arts grads comment - I hone them on my husband) 

From someone else who did mathematics at Uni

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:23:51 PM   
Deviation


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Ah dear - the normal non-science bod's confusion of mathematics and arithmetic.

Mathematicians don't need basic arithmetic - even arts grads can use calculators for that. They just need to be able to think properly.

Irma la Douce (Wilder, 1963)




The Fortune Cookie will be showing here this month, is it worth a watch at the cinema (showing re-releases here, guess what they are showing next month, The Apartment, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA).

And btw.

Both Arithmetics (wait, isn't this a branch of mathematics?) and Mathematics have one thing in common, they are made and studied by haters of laughter, joy and thrills. No normal, sane, emotional, living human being would enjoy studying something like Paul Lorenzen, about how many strokes and letters you need to show a mathematical theory is correct or how many more theories you need to drive a poor fellow like me into suicide. SUICIDE. Thomas Aquinas was more fun than studying this. And Aquinas sucks.









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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:26:27 PM   
elab49


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There is a beauty and simplicty in numbers and math that no writer will ever attain - they underpin music, they describe the world and the universe around us more completely than words.

Dinnae you be disdaining number crunchers young man.

I've seen The Apartment in the cinema but never Fortune Cookie - watch out for the wonderful quote about the film. Matthau got very sick during it and, as they say, started the stairs at one weight and looked several stone lighter at the other end  Hope you enjoy it!

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:27:10 PM   
Piles


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ORIGINAL: elab49

It was defending you (hence the disparaging arts grads comment - I hone them on my husband) 

From someone else who did mathematics at Uni


Nice work, then .


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:28:56 PM   
Piles


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ORIGINAL: elab49

Ah dear - the normal non-science bod's confusion of mathematics and arithmetic.

Mathematicians don't need basic arithmetic - even arts grads can use calculators for that. They just need to be able to think properly.

Irma la Douce (Wilder, 1963)
 
Edit - sorry, IMDB crashed IE yet again. WHich it has been doing for weeks

It might seem odd given my love for Wilder, my propelling him to best director in Save Your Favourite, the presence of his films in my top 25 of all time and a number in the top 350 that this will probably be in my bottom 100 for the year. Like Kiss Me Stupid, I just don't know what happened between One, Two, Three and Fortune Cookie. 2 misjudged sleazy duffers in a row, then one of his greatest films, just when you thought it'd all gone wrong.

So I don't like this. I don't often watch it but, like the Brookmyre book I just read, it comes up every few years and I wonder if I missed something. I didn't. Unpleasant and little to recommend this wonderful world of whores. Lemmon isn't bad, simply ill-used for the most part and MacLaine is actively bad for most of the film. Not recommended. Pains me to say it.




I like "Irma la Douce". Ignored elab. It's a lot of fun. It's no "Apartment" but MacLaine is so sweet and Lemmon is Lemmon .


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 2:38:33 PM   
Deviation


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ORIGINAL: elab49

There is a beauty and simplicty in numbers and math that no writer will ever attain - they underpin music, they describe the world and the universe around us more completely than words.

Dinnae you be disdaining number crunchers young man.



Yeah, if you are joyless and boring and only care to restrain things to a bunch of numbers, theories and calculations.

Of course what I just wrote is just silly and dumb, but it just shows a disdain I have for the numbers and how much they suck my joy of life. LIKE THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. To deny the great contribution of mathematics in fine art and music (and other things) would be just ignorant though.

FUCK YOU LORENZEN AND YOUR NUMERALS

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I've seen The Apartment in the cinema but never Fortune Cookie - watch out for the wonderful quote about the film. Matthau got very sick during it and, as they say, started the stairs at one weight and looked several stone lighter at the other end  Hope you enjoy it!


I was actually hoping for Irme Le Duece, which they might show next month. MIGHT. I hope so.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 3:17:42 PM   
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Child's Play 2 (John Lafia,1990, 84 Mins) 5/10
A limp follow up to one of the finest horrors of the 80's.  There are some good ideas, and one or two ramdom set piece jumps, however it goes too far over into comedy, and Chucky is onscreen far too much for him to be that effective, it's poorly written, and just lack the scares and mence of the origanal.  Although Christine Elise gives a stand out performance, for me a over looked actress.

It's been a bit of a slow to the year for me, but that should change in the coming release with a new DVC Player on the way, and trips to the cinema amongst other things.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 3:25:39 PM   
Miles Messervy 007


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Films:

4. Children of Men (2006, Cuaron)
Review here.

Shorts:

1. Big Business (1929, Horne/McCarey) {18 mins}
My first Laurel and Hardy short. This was really great, a slyly told moral lesson with many hilarious moments (my favourite is at the end from the point where the policeman starts crying). Certainly want to see more of their stuff now. 9 You can watch it here, BTW

2. Validation (2007, Kuenne) {16 mins} youtube
Normally I'm not a fan of sentimentality, and I wouldn't argue if someone told me this was contrived, but this just made me feel good. An ode to free parking 9

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 3:43:24 PM   
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Miles, do you honestly think that "He's Just Not That Into You" deserves the same rating as "Germany, Year Zero"? Really?! I know opinion is subjective and all that but I don't see how anybody in their right mind could think that. HJNTIY isn't entertaining in any way, shape, or form.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 4:04:32 PM   
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I can't wait to read The Pigeon Army Diaries.


Friday 8th January 2010

Homoerotic chat with Dev' on Empire again. V good. OMFG Jayb is talking about Morrissey again. Think he fancies him. Pottr was a twat but I modded. V v good. I'm the best mod there is. Who's Kenny Williams? Brits are teasing me. I'll mod them good. I look good on Patrick Stewart's body. *Giggles*


Aside from the opening two lines and the implications that my grammar is less than perfect, this sounds about right. Let's be honest, though - I am the best mod there is, and you all know it. You bitch and bitch, but where would you be without me?



You don't know who Kenneth Williams is?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:20:44 PM   
rawlinson

 

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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

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ORIGINAL: jamesbondguy

I can't wait to read The Pigeon Army Diaries.


Friday 8th January 2010

Homoerotic chat with Dev' on Empire again. V good. OMFG Jayb is talking about Morrissey again. Think he fancies him. Pottr was a twat but I modded. V v good. I'm the best mod there is. Who's Kenny Williams? Brits are teasing me. I'll mod them good. I look good on Patrick Stewart's body. *Giggles*


Aside from the opening two lines and the implications that my grammar is less than perfect, this sounds about right. Let's be honest, though - I am the best mod there is, and you all know it. You bitch and bitch, but where would you be without me?



You don't know who Kenneth Williams is?


He thought he was one of my relatives.

Saturday 9th January 2010

OMG OMFG made epic fail on Empire. Modship skills in question. I'll pretend I meant it all along. I'll survive the putsch! Power is a turn on *giggles* Where's Dev'? I hate living in Australia, so far away from my Devvy Wev. That Leather Boys film Jayb keeps mentioning sounds good. *Note to self* Explore Leather Boys...


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:21:55 PM   
rawlinson

 

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Miles, do you honestly think that "He's Just Not That Into You" deserves the same rating as "Germany, Year Zero"? Really?! I know opinion is subjective and all that but I don't see how anybody in their right mind could think that.


Think about who you're talking to.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:22:35 PM   
Miles Messervy 007


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Miles, do you honestly think that "He's Just Not That Into You" deserves the same rating as "Germany, Year Zero"? Really?! I know opinion is subjective and all that but I don't see how anybody in their right mind could think that. HJNTIY isn't entertaining in any way, shape, or form.
Well, I honestly do, yes. Germany Year Zero is an average film, and so is the other one. Both are not engaging to me but I wouldn't call them actively bad.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:23:28 PM   
rawlinson

 

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There is a beauty and simplicty in numbers and math that no writer will ever attain


That's why you don't like anything!!

"Read Dylan Thomas and find something meaningful. Bollocks to that, where's that binary code?" 

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:23:47 PM   
Miles Messervy 007


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ORIGINAL: Piles

Miles, do you honestly think that "He's Just Not That Into You" deserves the same rating as "Germany, Year Zero"? Really?! I know opinion is subjective and all that but I don't see how anybody in their right mind could think that.


Think about who you're talking to.
Says the man who calls a 15-year old a pedophile and has a porn film in his top 100 list...

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:25:55 PM   
Deviation


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He thought he was one of my relatives.

Saturday 9th January 2010

OMG OMFG made epic fail on Empire. Modship skills in question. I'll pretend I meant it all along. I'll survive the putsch! Power is a turn on *giggles* Where's Dev'? I hate living in Australia, so far away from my Devvy Wev. That Leather Boys film Jayb keeps mentioning sounds good. *Note to self* Explore Leather Boys...




*shudder*


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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:27:50 PM   
rawlinson

 

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

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ORIGINAL: Piles

Miles, do you honestly think that "He's Just Not That Into You" deserves the same rating as "Germany, Year Zero"? Really?! I know opinion is subjective and all that but I don't see how anybody in their right mind could think that.


Think about who you're talking to.
Says the man who calls a 15-year old a pedophile and has a porn film in his top 100 list...


Well the first bit was a joke. And I'm not the first person to include a porn film in a top 100. Derek Malcolm did it in his Guardian list. Of course I command more respect than Malcolm.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:29:01 PM   
rawlinson

 

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ORIGINAL: Deviation

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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


He thought he was one of my relatives.

Saturday 9th January 2010

OMG OMFG made epic fail on Empire. Modship skills in question. I'll pretend I meant it all along. I'll survive the putsch! Power is a turn on *giggles* Where's Dev'? I hate living in Australia, so far away from my Devvy Wev. That Leather Boys film Jayb keeps mentioning sounds good. *Note to self* Explore Leather Boys...




*shudder*



I know it's frightening. Stay strong.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:29:04 PM   
Miles Messervy 007


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I'm serious though....

Did you include the same film?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:30:05 PM   
rawlinson

 

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I'm serious though....

Did you include the same film?


No, he went for Behind the Green Door.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:34:54 PM   
elab49


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ORIGINAL: elab49

There is a beauty and simplicty in numbers and math that no writer will ever attain


That's why you don't like anything!!

"Read Dylan Thomas and find something meaningful. Bollocks to that, where's that binary code?" 


Lets face it - if we're talking Dylan Thomas then a nice set of Log tables will do.

This is absolutely not a suggestion of OT stuff in here - just a separate begging letter to please have PAs diary as a regular somewhere. If only for his 'best Mod ever' claim.

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:44:53 PM   
rawlinson

 

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ORIGINAL: elab49

quote:

ORIGINAL: rawlinson

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ORIGINAL: elab49

There is a beauty and simplicty in numbers and math that no writer will ever attain


That's why you don't like anything!!

"Read Dylan Thomas and find something meaningful. Bollocks to that, where's that binary code?" 


Lets face it - if we're talking Dylan Thomas then a nice set of Log tables will do.



*Makes plans to write Elab's diary*

*Jots down phrase 'Hoots mon, it's Brigadoon!*

I'll make you a deal. I have Dog Soldiers down for rewatch tomorrow. Why don't you try rewatching a Dylan film?

quote:

This is absolutely not a suggestion of OT stuff in here - just a separate begging letter to please have PAs diary as a regular somewhere. If only for his 'best Mod ever' claim.


Sorry about the second one, I only did it because of his selective reading on my worst thread.  But am I right in understanding that a mod is requesting I find an off-topic place on the board to continue mocking another mod?

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:49:00 PM   
Deviation


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I am still scared. Really fucking scared.

And the worst bit? I might watch Nine tonight. The best bit, I might even watch The Hurt Locker.


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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 5:56:15 PM   
elab49


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Technically, I did watch and enjoy Child's CHristmas in Wales

You mean an Under Milk Wood, don't you?

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:02:38 PM   
rawlinson

 

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Technically, I did watch and enjoy Child's CHristmas in Wales

You mean an Under Milk Wood, don't you?


The new one doesn't count. Not in any way. Even though it was enjoyable. You could watch the 80s Child's Christmas with Denholm Elliott.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:04:07 PM   
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15. Three and Out (2008; Jonathan Gershfield)

SPOILERS

Mackenzie Crook plays a London train driver who runs over two people in the space of a couple of days. His workmates tell him about a policy where if a driver kills three people in a month he'll be pensioned off. Crook hates his job and hates London, he has aspirations of being a writer and longs to move to the Scottish isles so he can write and live in peace. He decides to start searching London for someone suicidal enough to sacrifice himself in front of Crook's train, finding Colm Meaney. This is a deeply frustrating film because it does have moments when it approaches something quite brilliant, usually in any of the scenes where it's just Colm Meaney and Mackenzie Crook. It may seem on the surface like little more than a bad taste comedy, but it's more about Meaney making amends for past sins before he dies. Imelda Staunton gives a strong performance as his ex-wife and Gary Lewis is good as a former rival. Where the film falls down is when it does aim for bad taste comedy. Anthony Sher's role as a man who wants Crook to cook and eat his penis is unneeded, and the love-story between Crook and Meaney's daughter (played by a rather limp Gemma Arterton) is pointless and seems to exist mainly for Arterton to do a topless scene. But Meaney is excellent (as always) and Crook again shows that he was the best thing to come out of The Office.

7/10

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:07:50 PM   
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Three and Out 7/10? 2008s version of a dodgy National Lottery funded Sex Lives of the Potato Men redux, 7/10?!?!?!?

Miles - your ammunition for the rest of the year is right there.

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:10:27 PM   
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If you say so; I haven't seen that or indeed heard of it

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:11:09 PM   
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Bollocks was it! Potato Men was a shitty sex comedy with no jokes. Three and Out actually does something with Meaney's character. Three and Out deserves 7/10 for any of the scenes with Meaney.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Watched This Year: 2010 - 9/1/2010 6:11:48 PM   
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And if you slag off Colm Meaney then it's really on.

Now this just looks stupid as the first post on a new page. I'm just in shock you would compare pretty much anything to the Potato Men.

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