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RE: Avatar - 11/1/2010 12:16:10 PM

Macphist0

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He's at the bar in the first shot on the longer trailer....you know, one of the first random things that popped into my head after I watched it -_-

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RE: Avatar - 14/1/2010 8:58:58 PM

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I was reading an article in the G2 supplement of the Guardian on Monday on Avatar. Apparently they have already coined the phrase 'Avatard' for the diehard fans. However the jist of the article was that despite many good reviews, the journalist who himself had givn it an average review in the Guardian, the critics and been overawed by the hype, anticipation and special effects and looked past the average story. The journalist then continued to say that there is a turn of the tide coming and that there "the feeling that we've got another Phantom Menace on our hands".

To be honest I haven't noticed this. While i wasn't overawed by the film, i did still enjoy it*. That is despite the fact that i thought it played out like a Dances with Wolves in space. This is also despite the cheesy life tree hippy dippy mediation crap.

So my question ultimately is this. Will this film suffer the same effect as Titanis and the more popular it becomes the more of a backlash we wll see, or do you think it will escape this and remain critically popular and retain it's credibility?

*I possibly wasn't overawed due to the fact that i have a right eye that cannot focus properly and therefore 3D films are somethign i will never be able to enjoy.

Moved from the movie musings thread and poseted here instead

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RE: Avatar - 15/1/2010 5:16:30 AM

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the story and everything was great, including acting... the special ffects are sweet! james cameron has created the most beautiful film planet of all time! i reckon that in a decade AVATAR is going to be on every film critic's 'best movies of all time' list. a M A S T E R P I E C E.

PS. the thanator rocks! it looks so awesome and it just so awesome that i had a dream that i was on pandora getting chased by a thantor down a cliff edge! they created the sickest creatures in that movie! eden with teeth and claws, huh . . .

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RE: Avatar is epic - 15/1/2010 5:21:59 AM

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seriously, AVATAR has all the qualities of epic written all over it. it has a huge climactic battle (ground and air) that would probably be hailed as one of the best action sequences of all time; an amazingly exciting showdown, a love story, a great plot and overall theme ("the strong prey on the weak, and nobody does a thing") which touches on the subject of a lone human who has seen beauty in the aliens that is unlike any other thing, and he is torn apart. The truth is humans can be really cruel and evil, and the na'vi are a great contrast to that. There's also a love story, and it blends all of the great elements of filmaking to create pandora. truly epic

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RE: Avatar is epic - 18/1/2010 12:11:38 AM

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Has anyone seen this? FUNNY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTrjI4MtUik

It's cool that Sigourney & Cameron were up for this! Awesome!

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RE: Avatar is epic - 18/1/2010 1:00:07 AM

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Has anyone seen this? FUNNY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTrjI4MtUik

It's cool that Sigourney & Cameron were up for this! Awesome!

That was actually much better than Avatar.

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RE: Avatar is epic - 27/1/2010 12:44:29 PM

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So Avatar has overtaken Titanic.

Just as a point of interest, George Lucas sent this to Cameron when Titanic over took Star Wars back in 1997.

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RE: Avatar is epic - 27/1/2010 12:51:39 PM

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RE: Avatar is epic - 1/2/2010 12:34:50 PM

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2 billion dollars and counting!

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RE: Avatar is epic - 4/2/2010 2:37:44 PM

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Its beaten Titanic's Domestic: figures too 600+ wow will it make more then 250,000 ??

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RE: Avatar - 17/2/2010 6:54:16 AM

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As days go by, this movie just doesn't stop climbing my Favoyurites list... I think it's in my top five now. Epic, dazzling sci-fi, with a beautiful world, a chase scene, lots of tension, a love story, an overral theme line, a climactic final battle and a showdown bristling with awesomeness.

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 4:17:21 PM

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Just saw this i loved it its fantastic best film ever made

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 4:23:12 PM

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Just saw this i loved it its fantastic best film ever made

Its really not

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 4:29:24 PM

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interesting news -

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/17/james-cameron-to-write-avatar-prequel-novel/

I have all the novelisations of previous Cameron films (except of course that boat film) and they all expand on the original screenplays and even include some deleted stuff (especially Alan Dean Foster's ALIENS and Orson Scott Card's THE ABYSS). this looks like a different approach though.

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 6:08:12 PM

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Just saw this i loved it its fantastic best film ever made

Its really not

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 6:23:56 PM

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Just saw this i loved it its fantastic best film ever made

Its really not

shut up

It isnt though, take away the magnificent effects and 3D aspect and its a very run of the mill story thats been told loads of times before

mature comeback though

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 6:28:21 PM

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If you dont like it then fine but i loved it

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RE: Avatar - 18/2/2010 9:19:52 PM

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If you dont like it then fine but i loved it

Never said I didnt like it, I thought it was great, but best film ever? nah

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 12:42:54 PM

grucl

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Watched it again last night.

The film absolutely works in 2D (especially with THAT picture quality).

The final hour (beginning with the attack on the tree) is really great action . Cameron at his best!

I didn't care so much for the middle part this time around.

One more thing: Michelle Rodriguez looks ace!

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 2:25:14 PM

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I really loved Avatar at the cinema in 3D - how is it looking on blu-ray? Still as stunning?

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 3:22:25 PM

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My brother said its still showing at Bradford IMAX so i think i might give it a second shot. Wasnt too impressed first time round, but what the heck.

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 4:02:52 PM

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Everywhere I look today - "AVATAR now on dvd & blu-ray" I'm well pissed off 'cos I have to wait til NOVEMBER when the REAL goods are released.....

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 6:25:13 PM

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I really loved Avatar at the cinema in 3D - how is it looking on blu-ray? Still as stunning?

yes!! went to HMV's flagship store in London yesterday where Stephen Lang (Col. Q from Avatar) was signing copies in a cool Avatar jungle set they had installed on the first floor of the store

got to see Avatar running in HD Blu-Ray on a massive Sony Bravia 1080P flat panel and DAMN, it looked sweet

the lack of "3d" is actually a good thing, based on my experiences seeing it first in 3D and then 2D in the cinema, the 2D had much better picture quality, brightness, contrast, side panning stability, etc.

my copy of Avatar in HD should have arrived at work by now!

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RE: Avatar - 26/4/2010 7:52:34 PM

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Best film ever made james camron you are a legand

Just wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Avatar - 27/4/2010 8:34:47 AM

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Am I the only one to think that Avatar was bit, well, meh? The effects are pretty good in most places, but the Na'vi look really poor compared to the settings they are placed in. (Also, why are the avatars dressed in human clothing? Surely, if you go to the trouble of transplanting your consciousness into an 8ft blue cat alien it would be wise to 'go native'). Plus, I found the story to be weak and some of the performances poor.

I honestly think that the film was hyped out of all proportion and I think there is a real possibility that the effects will look very dated in a couple of years.

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RE: Avatar - 27/4/2010 10:20:50 AM

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Am I the only one to think that Avatar was bit, well, meh? The effects are pretty good in most places, but the Na'vi look really poor compared to the settings they are placed in. (Also, why are the avatars dressed in human clothing? Surely, if you go to the trouble of transplanting your consciousness into an 8ft blue cat alien it would be wise to 'go native'). Plus, I found the story to be weak and some of the performances poor.

I honestly think that the film was hyped out of all proportion and I think there is a real possibility that the effects will look very dated in a couple of years.

No, you're probably not the only one but this thread is in 'Favourite Films'. You should slag it off elsewhere.

And I disagree. AVATAR is brilliant.

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RE: Avatar - 27/4/2010 10:28:48 AM

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No, you're probably not the only one but this thread is in 'Favourite Films'. You should slag it off elsewhere.

Errrrr....no Snake. I think we are allowed to criticse films in Favorite Films.

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RE: Avatar - 27/4/2010 10:51:10 AM

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Am I the only one to think that Avatar was bit, well, meh? The effects are pretty good in most places, but the Na'vi look really poor compared to the settings they are placed in. (Also, why are the avatars dressed in human clothing? Surely, if you go to the trouble of transplanting your consciousness into an 8ft blue cat alien it would be wise to 'go native'). Plus, I found the story to be weak and some of the performances poor.

I honestly think that the film was hyped out of all proportion and I think there is a real possibility that the effects will look very dated in a couple of years.

No, you're probably not the only one but this thread is in 'Favourite Films'. You should slag it off elsewhere.

And I disagree. AVATAR is brilliant.

Sorry, I didn't realise there was a Disliked Films forum.

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RE: Avatar - 27/4/2010 1:26:13 PM

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A picture from the deleted opening scene (bar brawl):

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RE: Avatar - 30/4/2010 3:17:16 PM

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I love Cameron's movies and I loved this. Seen it in 3-D, blew me away, bought the blu ray this week and it still blew me away, the picture quality and sound is the best I've seen yet. My main gripe is that it is representative of a development in Cameron's work in that he is very much starting to dilute his work a little. The two Terminators he did, as well as Aliens and even the similarly airy-fairy The Abyss, all had a dark, gritty style to it, with Aliens and T's 1 and 2 being full of dark violence and a heavy amount of the old curse words, but he seems to be either losing his darker edge or pandering more to the family audience and that concerns me a little. Now, I think it's great Avatar has given kids a cinematic experience that they'll never forget but I would love to see the Cameron of yesteryear make an appearane again, the one that gave us dialogue like "you're a terminated f****r" and a liquid metal man turning his fingers and hands into slicey dicey weapons.

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