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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:29:20 PM   
tftrman


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ORIGINAL: gavmeister

sense away, but sandbox is an American word, the correct English equivalent is sandpit. Empire is an English magazine. Comprende?


what if the sand is kept in a box and not in a pit?




Don't annoy the literary genius who starts every sentence in lower case Shool!

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:30:07 PM   
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I personally don't give a hoot what anyone says... I can't bloody wait... I went to Avatar Day back in August and told some news guy with a camera exactly what I thought... it looks terrific... and Empire's 5*star seal of approval only gets me more excited, bring it on!


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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:33:03 PM   
shool


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ORIGINAL: tftrman

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ORIGINAL: shool


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ORIGINAL: gavmeister

sense away, but sandbox is an American word, the correct English equivalent is sandpit. Empire is an English magazine. Comprende?


what if the sand is kept in a box and not in a pit?




Don't annoy the literary genius†who starts every sentence in lower case Shool!




Any way just booked my tickets for Manchester on the Saturday. Cant wait.


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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:34:17 PM   
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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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Stop being mean to Deviation

No.

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:38:44 PM   
Deviation


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You know, all you have to do is change a rating, 4/5 to 5/5, and don't complain on how slow the pacing is.




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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:44:11 PM   
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You know, all you have to do is change a rating, 4/5 to 5/5, and don't complain on how slow the pacing is.





Possibly the wrong place to be ambiguous about the film you're talking about.


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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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Stop being mean to Deviation

No.

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:46:35 PM   
Deviation


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You realized on what I'm talking about though right? You know, resistance and Nazis, Top 100, Pompous shithead..........





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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:48:55 PM   
Pigeon Army


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Yes, I know what you're talking about, and yes, you are a pompous shithead. Doesn't change how I feel about Army in the Shadows. Now can you keep this on-topic?

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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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Stop being mean to Deviation

No.

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 12:53:13 PM   
hatebox

 

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Wow, this was................tame.

Come on people, Felix, PA, shool, homer and all the mods need you to act like lunatics, they secretly desire it. Especially PA and elab.




Yeah, I do get the sense a lot of people here genuinely love bashing the haters. I try and stay out of the whole thing, myself.

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 1:00:09 PM   
Deviation


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ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army

Yes, I know what you're talking about, and yes, you are a pompous shithead. Doesn't change how I feel about Army in the Shadows. Now can you keep this on-topic?


Ok sorry.


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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: English words - 11/12/2009 1:45:11 PM   
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sense away, but sandbox is an American word, the correct English equivalent is sandpit. Empire is an English magazine. Comprende?


You can actually buy children's 'sandbox's' here in the UK which are shaped box's which you can move to wherever you want and put sand in, a sandpit is exactly that, a pit dug into the ground filled with sand. It's not an American thing. Oh and it's understand - comprende is Spanish not English.

Back on subject, liked the review - was actually not expecting 5 stars but most reviews at the moment seem to all agree that it's a great if slightly flawed film.
Looking forward to next week




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RE: Its a bit like a drug, I want to go back to Pandora - 11/12/2009 2:00:34 PM   
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Let's face it; a movie critic, film buff, an audience and a film maker all look at film in different ways. I am BORED TO DEATH with everyone taking pot shots at Lucas, Spielberg, Jackson and now Cameron. Yes many were disappointed with Jones VI, Star Wars I-III, King Kong, Titanic, but there is a difference between cinema and movie magic. This separates these guys from other directors - they are movie magicians. The biggest gap between the director and an audience isn't intelligence its emotional intelligence. I haven't seen Avatar but I want to see it and I'll judge for myself. Whether I like it or not, it's an accomplishment. Whether I am cynical or not, there is nothing wrong with conscientious films that have a message (as a genre sci-fi is social commentary and the impact of technology on humanity), and whether or not Empire gives the film 1 or 5 stars, if I disagree I don't need to create a contentious on the internet so everyone thinks the same as me. I love reading different points of view, I love debates, but the cynical slagging off is just juvenile. (three stars cuz I haven't seen it yet and I have to post a rating).


What you're describing here is Michael Bay......why people were upset with things like Indy IV, Star Wars Prequels is because these guys who were known for being to combine both magic and create a great film have lowered themselves to simply the magic parts and neglecting the process of telling a terrific story as well. Titanic & King Kong had their critics for other reasons, no one would deny their visual greatness like.


Not really a Michael Bay fan myself though I love it when Empire screams 'TOTAL BAYHEM'! I agree that these are the people who we know can tell awesome stories with great magic, but there is a huge difference between the Lucas, Spielberg etc and Bay, Emmerich. I don't agree that Ep I-III of Star Wars and Jones VI is all magic and no content, (though I agree Lucas should have only been in charge of story not the script). An example of this is showing a friend the whole Star Wars saga for the first time. They actually enjoyed the prequels more than the originals because they felt that the exploration of Anakins journey/descent is explored deeper that Luke's 'hero's journey in Episode 4 onwards, and they preferred the battles being a backdrop to the character rather than the embodiment of the film (personally I don't get anyone finding the Hoth attack dull, I still get goose pimples!!!) Jones VI's 'worst bits' are aspects of taste for me, rather than being bad story telling. But even if people don't like the films, my comment was about cynics fashionably writing off directors such as Cameron on a whim. Cameron & co are risk takers, they will happily take something we know so well and go down a new route and that is usually what people hate (i.e. Cameron doing romance in Titanic, Jones set in the 50's with aliens, Anakins fall due to love and a woman not the corruption of power) - they are all risks! And some really back fire (JarJar!!!). These people know better than most about how to tell a story. In this day and age we get too many mediocre films because they adhere to the 'rules' far too much (I work in the industry myself, everyone knows the rules very well, and then they get stumped where the concept demands telling a story in a way that the rules don't cover). Movie magic isn't just effects. Its many things including communication via sense of wonder using every hemisphere of creativity and emotion, many find this uncomfortable. Some have been dismissing Cameron based on the so-called 'hippy messages', the 'dances with wolves' aspect or the use of CGI. I think that it is narrow minded, and those concepts of taste can effect a personís enjoyment - (of course!) but should it spoil a films accomplishments? Should a fan of period drama declare a sci-fi is a crap film just because they don't like that genre? This is a story that a story teller wants to tell, and I respect that. By the way - dig the Prince pic! Another awesome and misunderstood maverick that is always criticised for what he hasn't done, not what he does!!!

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RE: Its a bit like a drug, I want to go back to Pandora - 11/12/2009 2:18:15 PM   
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http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/avatar

Pffff. Total Film have also given it 5 stars... and most trades seem to love it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/6786507/Avatar-The-first-reviews.html

Sell outs!


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RE: Its a bit like a drug, I want to go back to Pandora - 11/12/2009 2:20:55 PM   
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http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/avatar

Pffff. Total Film have also given it 5 stars... and most trades seem to love it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/6786507/Avatar-The-first-reviews.html

Sell outs!


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RE: Its a bit like a drug, I want to go back to Pandora - 11/12/2009 2:50:43 PM   
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Now I've given plenty of views about reviews in Empire, but to give out about someone's opinion of a film they have seen and you haven't sounds like talking out of your backside.

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RE: BAH HUMBUG! - 11/12/2009 2:58:08 PM   
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How can you possibly know that without seeing the movie? Its ludicrous.

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RE: BAH HUMBUG! - 11/12/2009 3:00:56 PM   
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My Alternative Avatar thread got locked at the speed of light by Spool so those who have seen it could you rate the following with zero spoilers!

The 3D
Wow factor -
Clarity -
Non-headache/ nausea inducing -


The Setpiece Action -


The Characterisation -


Story -


Living up to the hype -


OVERALL RATING -


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RE: More hype anyone? - 11/12/2009 4:34:50 PM   
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RE: More hype anyone? - 11/12/2009 4:40:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Think McFly Think


Dances With Binks...

It seems to me that Empire decided some time ago that this film was going to be amazing, so somewhat hyped themselves into a subjective rather than objective corner.

After all, if the film were merely Dances With Wolves with less acting and more "mo-cop" (sigh) then Empire's protestations for the last age about how it would revolutionise cinema would make them look rather foolish wouldn't they?

One could even venture that Empire almost had as much to lose as Jimbo himself.

This may well be the third instalment in the triumvirate of disappointment that started with Attack Of The Clones and was seconded by Indy 4. Never have positive reviews been gained so undeservedly and seemingly based on the reviewer's desire for the film to be great, rather than because of any actual merit.

Hopefully, Avatar will prove me wrong but please Empire, you are often lauded by those in the industry so stop trading on former glories and sort out your reviews of blockbusters before your credibility is lost in a sea of obsequious self-interest.



You really are a fucking bum-wipe, and no, just because I resorted to name calling it doesn't make me wrong.

How can you possibly know if thsi review is undeserved? You admit you haven't seen it. If you were a different brand of moronic troll you might well have lied and said you had seen it, but instead, in the same post, you told us that you haven't seen the film, but that this review is emphatically wrong.

You people can't really think you are right? When we have all seen the film, THEN, we can voice our opinions, but now the opinion of anyone who hasn't seen the film (including my own) is irrelevant.
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RE: More hype anyone? - 11/12/2009 5:01:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Think McFly Think


Dances With Binks...

It seems to me that Empire decided some time ago that this film was going to be amazing, so somewhat hyped themselves into a subjective rather than objective corner.

After all, if the film were merely Dances With Wolves with less acting and more "mo-cop" (sigh) then Empire's protestations for the last age about how it would revolutionise cinema would make them look rather foolish wouldn't they?

One could even venture that Empire almost had as much to lose as Jimbo himself.

This may well be the third instalment in the triumvirate of disappointment that started with Attack Of The Clones and was seconded by Indy 4. Never have positive reviews been gained so undeservedly and seemingly based on the reviewer's desire for the film to be great, rather than because of any actual merit.

Hopefully, Avatar will prove me wrong but please Empire, you are often lauded by those in the industry so stop trading on former glories and sort out your reviews of blockbusters before your credibility is lost in a sea of obsequious self-interest.



At first you looked stupid for explaining how Empire are "wrong", despite the fact hardly anyone has seen the film so you don't know if they are "wrong" or not yet...but then I looked at the big fancy words you used - "triumvirate"..."subjective rather than objective"..."obsequious". My God. You're clever.
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RE: More hype anyone? - 11/12/2009 5:55:02 PM   
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You really are a fucking bum-wipe, and no, just because I resorted to name calling it doesn't make me wrong.



Yes it does. Differ on opinions, fine - but stow the personal abuse, and that goes for everyone else on this thread as well. Some people on here are worse than the Twilight squeee - ers

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RE: More hype anyone? - 11/12/2009 6:41:43 PM   
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Oh thread, you aren't disappointing me.

*hugs thread tightly*

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RE: 5 stars? - 11/12/2009 6:52:58 PM   
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Five pages already, visitors form chavscum.co.uk never let us down.

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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 7:27:14 PM   
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i was 1 of the lucky few who witnessed this landmark in cinema.i hav been looking foward 2 this move 4 a while now and was hoping mi expectations would b answered. and i was totally blown away.everything came 2gether perfectly and i felt butterflies in mi stomach after,which i hav not felt since i saw the dark nite last summer.this film was a breathtaking experience and i would advise any1 who want 2 watch a movie spectacular 2 c this


As for the review I'll wait and be objective about it as I'm not cleaning Camerons arse with my tongue!!!  

Edit - that isn't a word tolerated on the site.

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"Flawed" film gets 5 star rating?? - 11/12/2009 7:39:35 PM   
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Mr Hewitt tells us the film is "flawed". But surely five star ratings are for FLAWLESS movies...?

And why on earth does he call Von Trier 'a young pretender' and group him with Bay and Emmerich? Von Trier is hardly similar to these blockbuster directors in any way.
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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 7:40:28 PM   
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i was 1 of the lucky few who witnessed this landmark in cinema.i hav been looking foward 2 this move 4 a while now and was hoping mi expectations would b answered. and i was totally blown away.everything came 2gether perfectly and i felt butterflies in mi stomach after,which i hav not felt since i saw the dark nite last summer.this film was a breathtaking experience and i would advise any1 who want 2 watch a movie spectacular 2 c this




...You are aware that on computer keyboards you are allowed to type words of more than three letters (or are you posting from playschool?)

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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 8:19:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: a_new_power

quote:

ORIGINAL: ciltubrid

i was 1 of the lucky few who witnessed this landmark in cinema.i hav been looking foward 2 this move 4 a while now and was hoping mi expectations would b answered. and i was totally blown away.everything came 2gether perfectly and i felt butterflies in mi stomach after,which i hav not felt since i saw the dark nite last summer.this film was a breathtaking experience and i would advise any1 who want 2 watch a movie spectacular 2 c this




As much as I hate this text speak myself there's no need to call him/her (sorry, don't know) a retard.  Pick apart his/her points by all means
As for myself, well, I'd be looking forward to this regardless of the Empire review.  Really hoping it's as good as Chris says.

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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 8:22:06 PM   
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What puts me off is that many of the positive reviews also give plaudits to Titanic.

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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 8:31:31 PM   
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And again. Watch the language. 'retard' is not an acceptable term on this site - if warned once, repeat offences will see formal warnings.

And while we appreciate others feeling as offended by it as us, could I ask that it not be quoted, please? It makes deletions a bugger!



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RE: well worth the wait - 11/12/2009 9:44:03 PM   
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And again. Watch the language. 'retard' is not an acceptable term on this site - if warned once, repeat offences will see formal warnings.

And while we appreciate others feeling as offended by it as us, could I ask that it not be quoted, please? It makes deletions a bugger!



Sorry elab, fair point.

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