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Are Hathaway And Malkovich The Vultures? - 8/12/2009 5:04:33 PM   
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The essential Villain is already in place… - 8/12/2009 5:04:33 PM   
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 Dylan Baker finally turning into the Lizard is what’s needed now. Don’t overcomplicate things by brining in and attempting to establish new characters and backgrounds when you have a great one primed and ready to go.

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You fackin wot? - 8/12/2009 5:25:50 PM   
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 The Vulture isn't exactly the most menacing of villains but could still be cool, especially if played my Malkovich, but this Vultress idea is, frankly - shit! If, on the other hand this Vultress idea is a complete fabrication and Felicity Hardy will stay as the black cat - i would give Raimi the benefit of the doubt, and could honestly say this could still be quite a decent flick! I await confirmation with baited breath!!

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- 8/12/2009 5:43:06 PM   
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john malkovich was awesome in con air. johnny english...not so much.

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- 8/12/2009 5:49:29 PM   
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 I like the Vulture. Kinda wish he was in Spidey 3 instead of Sandman (although if I'm wishing about Spidey 3...).

Still have high hopes for this, and Anne Hathaway is good value in ANYTHING...

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- 8/12/2009 7:17:03 PM   
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Dylan Baker as the Lizard and more Bruce Campbell would be great.

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Seriously? - 8/12/2009 7:19:52 PM   
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The Vulture?? Pretty weak villain, next it'll be the Rhino!
I agree with Pete..it has to be the Lizard with Kraven the Hunter on his trail and Spidey trying to save his lecturer!
Anyone got Raimi's number? I think I should give him a call.

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- 8/12/2009 7:52:05 PM   
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All we need is the Lizard! THAT'S IT! No more pointless side villains like in spidey 3

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Ah, who cares? - 8/12/2009 8:47:10 PM   
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 Raimi's gonna fuck it up no matter what.

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no raimi - 8/12/2009 9:08:43 PM   
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no more raimi please,lets change it maguire has got so bland,dunst irritating and raimi well off boil with spidey 3 and drag me to hell was a good 30 min in 90,the lizard or kraven much better choices.

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missing the obvious... - 8/12/2009 10:15:06 PM   
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 i find it strange that the writing team on this movie have missed the bleeding obvious storyline, and progression of character that every other respective movie fan or spider-man fan has clearly seen... i.e the kraven/lizard combo! i mean.. its a simple story... the villians link nicely and theres so much room for chracter building... but its seeming like they might get all muddled up again and cram to much in! I will still be there...i will still probably evenenjoy it with a guilty pleasure in my head... but the changing of felica hardys character seems pointless... and they will need to have a damn good way getting around this!! time will tell... hope this is all speculation and rumour :)

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The Lizard is the obvious chioce - 8/12/2009 11:17:40 PM   
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WHY? i mean surely the whole point of having dr. connors in the bloody films was to eventually make him the lizard! spider-man 3 was a disaster for god sake so get spider-man back on track we need to see what every fan wants which is the lizard, Raimi needs to stick to horror films!

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RE: The Lizard is the obvious chioce - 8/12/2009 11:45:30 PM   
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The Lizard please, with Bruce Campbell as Kraven the Hunter. Give the man a proper role!

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RE: The Lizard is the obvious chioce - 9/12/2009 11:12:45 AM   
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As a concept, this utterly sucks! The Vulture is a cool, visually interesting villian, but this Vultress idea is terrible. I wouldn't mind Felicia being the Vulture's daughter, but there's no reason she can't be the Black Cat.
I read that the Sony suits couldn't deal with the idea of the Lizard and wanted a human type foe. Seems a shame when the character has already been established.

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no no no NO NO!!! - 9/12/2009 11:27:23 AM   
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RE: The Lizard is the obvious chioce - 9/12/2009 11:28:54 AM   
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 Christ people, learn from your mistakes !!!!

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no no nO NO NO!!! - 9/12/2009 11:29:08 AM   
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What the hell...?!! Vulture?? AND VULTURESS?? Are you EFFING KIDDING ME??? What happend to Lizard and Black Cat?? Please Marvel God, if you truly exist you will prevent this from happening!!

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RE: no no nO NO NO!!! - 9/12/2009 12:01:10 PM   
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 Lizard. Now.

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Batman Returns - 9/12/2009 12:18:45 PM   
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Didn't they already do this kind of thing in that movie? When they had Michelle Pfieffer's character become the Penguinette?

No?

Maybe that's because it's a fucking stupid idea. Good on them if they're trying distance Black Cat from Catwoman, but all's they have to do is just not have her be a raving half-dead loony and we're good.

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- 9/12/2009 12:40:47 PM   
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no no no

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Who's left? - 9/12/2009 12:47:45 PM   
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 Having wasted Venom in Spidey 3 instead of saving him for this film (YOUR fault Spidey fans), who is really left in the Spidey universe that could carry a major film? 1 & 2 were padded out with 'origin story' & 'hero doubting his destiny' respectively, while 3 would've been brill with just Sandman & new Green Goblin. 4 could've & should've been Spidey turning bad then taking on Venom. Vulture is such an uninspiring minor villain, while The Lizard is limited unless they expand upon the mutation angle....such as spidey himself becoming mutated?

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- 9/12/2009 1:17:43 PM   
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There was a lot more wrong with Spiderman 3 than the number of villains. namely the script, story, acting and casting.

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RE: Who's left? - 9/12/2009 1:20:39 PM   
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A rampaging Lizard with Peter fighting him as well as trying to save him because he knows who he is would be superb. Then bring in Kraven the Hunter after one or both of them.
Like so many people are saying, this is the ideal storyline. The Dr Conners character is already set up.

As much as I love Bruce Campbell, I don't see him playing Kraven. I like the idea that he could be Mysterio and keeps cropping up in cameo roles that all come together in a future film.
Josh Brolin for Kraven maybe????
Anne Hathaway as Felicia Hardy / Black cat I could see working although only as a small role in part 4. Increase the role for part 5.

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Oh dear god no!!!!! - 9/12/2009 1:22:53 PM   
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Ok first thing is first.... "Although it wouldn't be the first time – technically speaking, the New Goblin, as played by James Franco in Spider-Man 3, was a new character."
Actually no they didn't. The said actor was playing Hobgoblin which was in the comics if you bother to read them Mr Hewitt. But I won't go on about it. (btw I know he wasn't listed as Hobgoblin in the credits but that is what it was based on, hence the colour of his outfit so they didn't create anything new)

Anyway more importantly. Vulturess? Please let this be a bad joke. Do people not learn from comic book movies? Most noteably Batman Forever and Batman & Robin which both had horrible over use of villains, all of which they ruined.
And then even in Spidey 3 when they ruined one of my favourite villains ever, Venom. (and by the way Hillsman, that wasn't our fault that they did a terrible job of putting him on screen, it may have been down to us that he was in it but he could have done a much better job, I could quite literally have excreted a better version of Venom than they produced)

But I like the sound of Vulture being played by JM. I think he would do it justice. But what about Shocker or Rhino? Tombstone or Carnage? Loads more villains to waste. Im not gonna get my hopes up for this as I only liked the second one out of the three. Personally I would rather have a new director.

Also I like the previous posters idea for Kraven, think that would be a good fit. Lizard would be a good story line too unless they wanna create lizard girl to go with him of course.

< Message edited by chicane09 -- 9/12/2009 1:50:50 PM >

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thats a lot of No's - 9/12/2009 2:52:00 PM   
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It does seem a bit daft to have the vulture and vulturess as potential villains especially when the Lizard story could be good.
You'd have thought with all the work going into the setup for the Avengers Marvel would sit down and acknowledge their mistakes with 3 and try and make a decent Spiderman story. It can't be that difficult for one of Marvel's most popular comics.

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In short - 9/12/2009 3:46:05 PM   
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 If there’s one thing John Malkovich does well – does really well – it’s give good villain in a really shit flick. So here we have turdo numero quatro freshly squeezed from the ass cheeks of Raimi. Setting sail down the drainpipe of CGI fests with an old bald man and some chick from over rated chicks flicks. Do I sound like I'm gettin excited about this? Didn't think so

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- 9/12/2009 4:14:46 PM   
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If they are going to start inventing characters how about shitman and uselass? Could go quite well with the tone of the movies.

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RE: Oh dear god no!!!!! - 9/12/2009 5:34:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chicane09

Ok first thing is first.... "Although it wouldn't be the first time – technically speaking, the New Goblin, as played by James Franco in Spider-Man 3, was a new character."
Actually no they didn't. The said actor was playing Hobgoblin which was in the comics if you bother to read them Mr Hewitt. But I won't go on about it. (btw I know he wasn't listed as Hobgoblin in the credits but that is what it was based on, hence the colour of his outfit so they didn't create anything new)

Anyway more importantly. Vulturess? Please let this be a bad joke. Do people not learn from comic book movies? Most noteably Batman Forever and Batman & Robin which both had horrible over use of villains, all of which they ruined.
And then even in Spidey 3 when they ruined one of my favourite villains ever, Venom. (and by the way Hillsman, that wasn't our fault that they did a terrible job of putting him on screen, it may have been down to us that he was in it but he could have done a much better job, I could quite literally have excreted a better version of Venom than they produced)

But I like the sound of Vulture being played by JM. I think he would do it justice. But what about Shocker or Rhino? Tombstone or Carnage? Loads more villains to waste. Im not gonna get my hopes up for this as I only liked the second one out of the three. Personally I would rather have a new director.

Also I like the previous posters idea for Kraven, think that would be a good fit. Lizard would be a good story line too unless they wanna create lizard girl to go with him of course.


IMDB has him listed as ‘New Goblin’ but I seem to remember the name ‘Night Surfer being thrown around quite a bit when the film came out. But yeah, either way that character was basically just Hobgoblin, a well established villain. Poor journalism. Almost as bad as the time they ran an Avengers movie rumour in the magazine and put a picture of the Justice League of America with it. Those of us who never leave our basements were far from impressed!

I also seem to remember Larry David being mentioned for Vulture. Oh, that limitless potential for hilarity there is borderline criminal. Still, there is no getting any worse surely…

Lizard please!


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RE: Oh dear god no!!!!! - 9/12/2009 7:47:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chicane09

Ok first thing is first.... "Although it wouldn't be the first time – technically speaking, the New Goblin, as played by James Franco in Spider-Man 3, was a new character."
Actually no they didn't. The said actor was playing Hobgoblin which was in the comics if you bother to read them Mr Hewitt. But I won't go on about it. (btw I know he wasn't listed as Hobgoblin in the credits but that is what it was based on, hence the colour of his outfit so they didn't create anything new)


Sorry, mate, but there is no way the Harry Osborn we saw in Spidey 3 was in any way related to, based on or even 'inspired by' the Hobgoblin, so it might be a bit unfair to accuse Chris Hewitt of not reading the comics!

In the comics, Hobgoblin was primarily Roderick Kingsley, Ned Leeds or Jason Macendale, not Harry Osborn, who was the second Green Goblin only.

The colour of the outfits are not even anything alike - the Hobgoblin is mostly brown and blue - neither of which was a prominent colour in Harry's Spidey 3 get-up.

Now, I'm not a reader of Ultimate Spidey, but I do know that this version of Hobgoblin is actually Harry, although he is a mutant, not a dude in a costume, and again looks nothing like the Spidey 3 version. Sorry!

Not to mention that nothing in any of the Hobgoblin storylines is even remotely similar to what happened with Harry in Spidey 3.

So, um, definitely not the Hobgoblin.

Oh, yeah, and thoughts on Spidey 3...

Malkovich as Vulture = pretty cool.

Hathaway as Hardy = ditto

Vultress = no thanks! Black Cat, please.

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RE: Oh dear god no!!!!! - 9/12/2009 8:14:46 PM   
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As usual the fanboys worry about the villains rather than the plot...

Personally I don't care how shit the villains are providing the film isn't a poorly written mess like 3.

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