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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 11:26:58 AM   
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Passion of the Christ is fucking awful.

There is no describing on how fucking awful it is.


Really?
I think it's brilliant. Definitely the most affecting human version of that story I've ever seen. I can see how it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not awful. I'm sure of that.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 11:33:36 AM   
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Passion is a tacky S&M B horror movie IMO but not in a fun way - and bloody dreadful all round. Sad to see it above such excellent choices as The Orphanage and Children of Men.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:00:42 PM   
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Passion is a tacky S&M B horror movie IMO


Ok. I admit it. It's that too.

I still think it's a good movie though. Thought it might be a controversial one that.
Wait til you see what's number one.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:30:43 PM   
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Passion of the Christ is fucking awful.

There is no describing on how fucking awful it is.


Really?
I think it's brilliant. Definitely the most affecting human version of that story I've ever seen. I can see how it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not awful. I'm sure of that.


OMG POTC discussion coming NOOOOOOOOO RUN AWAY!!!!!

First, because it transforms the Gospels, an entire train of thought and teachings about ethics and morality, into snuff. Secondly, as far as films about the life of Jesus stories this is the worst I've seen, and that counts the singing and dancing anachronistic one. Its impossible to sympathize with a sadomasochistic Christ whose only role in the film is to show how inhumane and vicious the Jews were to him (yes I do have a sympathy with the accusations that this film is anti-Semitic) and annihilating anything that made Christ an important figure in the first place(some unimportant teachings to Gibson's film).

The flashback that attempt to bring some humanity involving Christ invents the chair seems to come out of Life and Brian, any powerful emotional moment the film might have (the flashback with a young Jesus falling, which reminded me a lot of Last Temptation and Pasolini's own Gospel of St. Matthews, and made me want to re-watch those, they were actually great) is drowned under unnecessary, OTT, overlong, pointless, repulsive torture that rivals Pasolini's Salo in intensity(and featuring none of its intelligence and motifs). Any sort of spirituality the film might have had Gibson drowns it in gruesome torture. Its what's all wrong in Christianism, here in some two hours, in a focus on violence and the death of Christ rather other more important vital things that make the Gospels or the symbol and life of Christ somewhat important (one of the bits I like is the opening showing spiritual suffering focused on Last Temptation, this is thrown into the drain FOR VIOLENCE).

I just found nothing human about it, the lead is has the charisma of a zombie (less if we count the zombies of Romero), everyone and everything else is ignored for the sake of torture. Why care when Gibson simply doesn't care about the rest? It is a hard watch and the film at the end simply conveys nothing, its a crass, simplistic (if not idiotic), pornographic account of the passion without the spirituality featured in Gospel, Last Temptation or even that moment in Andrie Rublev. And worse, its really nothing original, those three films I mentioned before did the same thing with more power and far less violence.

Its can be well directed, some 2 or three scenes are nice and it is well scored (and cinematography can be impressive), I repect Gibson for having the guts to do this but it was a somewhat appalling idea in the first place.


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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:33:24 PM   
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 Fuck you elab, you and your non-rating one on-the-spot comment.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:35:40 PM   
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I just found nothing human about it, the lead is has the charisma of a zombie (less if we count the zombies of Romero),


JIM CAVIEZEL IS A LEGEND. AND NO-ONE CAN SAY OTHERWISE.



I do also hate Passion, though, and I share Devi's opinions that it's Anti-Semitic and ignores Christ's teachings in favour of intolerance and unflinching, unnecessary brutality.

And to think this list was so good up until this point (Mulholland Drive aside).


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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:38:43 PM   
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I do also hate Passion, though, and I share Devi's opinions that it's Anti-Semitic and ignores Christ's teachings in favour of intolerance and unflinching, unnecessary brutality.





This is surreal.

And Jim Caviezel is fucking amazing in The Thin Red Line.

Fair enough for you?


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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:41:56 PM   
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 You forgot to mention Frequency. He's great in that. 

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 12:46:32 PM   
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 What the fuck happened to that actor? He showed such promise.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 1:30:36 PM   
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 You guys have convinced me. But I just love zombie movies. i'm a sucker for 'em.

Having said that, I'm prepared to correct the list before any more harm is done.
Is it the done thing to pull a movie out of this type of list and replace it with something else?
I'll do it. i've got plenty of substitute movies waiting in the wings
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If I get 3 votes for yes, I'll have a new number 71 instated immediately.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 1:38:46 PM   
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 You could just keep it if you want to.




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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 1:45:12 PM   
frankie


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 OK. You're right. I've said it now. It's out there. Fact: The Passion of the Christ is the number 71 film in the top 100 of the decade.
Sorry to "The Village", your almost opportunity to replace the current #71 is over.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 2:09:01 PM   
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 OK, better move on sharpish.


70 Chopper (2000)

Another blood 'n' guts true story. Chopper is brilliant. And Eric Bana has never been better (still need to see Munich though.)





69 Hot Fuzz (2007)

Off the ****in' chain.



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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 2:41:12 PM   
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OK, better move on sharpish.


70 Chopper (2000)

Another blood 'n' guts true story. Chopper is brilliant. And Eric Bana has never been better (still need to see Munich though.)



And a far superior and bloody brilliant one - and don't worry, Munich doesn't bear mentioning in the same breath.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 3:22:35 PM   
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And Jim Caviezel is fucking amazing in The Thin Red Line.


Yes.

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What the fuck happened to that actor? He showed such promise.


Yes.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 6:36:08 PM   
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 68 Gone Baby Gone (2007)

A solid effort involving 2 Afflecks. Plus Beadie Russel from The Wire is in it so i was well pleased. Hard hitting and heart wrenching stuff, even if it does all go a bit whodunnit at the end.




67 Grizzly Man (2005)

Werner Herzog is a god. Forget Timothy Treadwell. Although it's Treadwell's story, the main man here is Werner himself.
The scene where he listens to the shocking audio of Treadwell's death on headphones and then urges the ex-girlfriend to destroy it is one that has stayed with me ever since.
Unmissable documentary.



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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 7:27:58 PM   
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Grizzly Man . Great choice, my favourite documentary of this decade




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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 13/12/2009 10:08:49 PM   
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69 Hot Fuzz (2007)

Off the ****in' chain.




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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 12:09:07 AM   
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68 Gone Baby Gone (2007)

A solid effort involving 2 Afflecks. Plus Beadie Russel from The Wire is in it so i was well pleased. Hard hitting and heart wrenching stuff, even if it does all go a bit whodunnit at the end.



I agree a great film that proves Casey is a much better actor than his brother and of course, Ben proves he is better director than he is an actor.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 12:12:53 AM   
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68 Gone Baby Gone (2007)

A solid effort involving 2 Afflecks. Plus Beadie Russel from The Wire is in it so i was well pleased. Hard hitting and heart wrenching stuff, even if it does all go a bit whodunnit at the end.




67 Grizzly Man (2005)

Werner Herzog is a god. Forget Timothy Treadwell. Although it's Treadwell's story, the main man here is Werner himself.
The scene where he listens to the shocking audio of Treadwell's death on headphones and then urges the ex-girlfriend to destroy it is one that has stayed with me ever since.
Unmissable documentary.




I do not wish to sound sick, but I really wanted to listen to that audio, but I respect Herzog for not selling out as lesser directors would have played it!

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 12:24:43 PM   
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I do not wish to sound sick, but I really wanted to listen to that audio, but I respect Herzog for not selling out as lesser directors would have played it!


I get that. I'm curious to hear it too, but for the purpose of the film I'm glad he didn't let the audience hear.
That scene is much more powerful because you can't hear it and can only imagine what horrors he must be listening to.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 12:58:06 PM   
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 66 X2: X-Men United (2003)

I'm no fanboy. I never read super hero comics as a kid (or as I've got older). I was always a Beano and Whizzer & Chips boy myself. But with films I like a good storyn told in an interesting way. That's what you get with X2. It surprised me as well. The first movie was distracting enough but nothing special. This did what any good sequel should, improved greatly on the original and left you wanting more.
What a shame Bryan Singer (for it is his best work) let someone else do the follow up. What was he thinking?







65 Spider-Man 2 (2004)

Again, it improves greatly on the original. the difference here is that the original was excellent too. I'd never seen anything like Spiderman swinging through the skies in a cinema before. I don't care if it's cgi or not. It just looks stunning. The plot here is expertly handled by Raimi as you'd expect. He juggles all the elements perfectly, mainly because he has just the right amount of them, unlike the 3rd movie.









64 Grindhouse (2007)

The funnest thing Tarantino has ever been involved in. It's a shame what happened with the UK releases because as a double bill complete with the excellent spoof trailers this works brilliantly. Rodriguez's trashy zombie flick plays just right. Quentin's section is the weakest sure, but at a leaner running time even that's not too bad. The extended individual cuts just don't have the same impact. i have the Japanese import DVD with the full Grindhouse experience which I love. I believe there's no other way to see these movies.









63 Slumdog Millionaire (2009)

A triumph.
Whilst not as "feelgood" as the publicity people would have you believe, it still manages to be a crowd pleaser. Danny Boyle's most accessible work and maybe his best.











62 Eastern Promises (2007)

Fine performances from Viggo Mortensen and Naomi Watts here. It's gruesome in places but I couldn't take my eyes off it.










61 Battle Royale (2000)

Terrifically terrifying but not without humour. A movie I can watch over and over.




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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 1:19:31 PM   
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63 Slumdog Millionaire (2009)

A triumph.
Whilst not as "feelgood" as the publicity people would have you believe, it still manages to be a crowd pleaser. Danny Boyle's most accessible work and maybe his best.


62 Eastern Promises (2007)

Fine performances from Viggo Mortensen and Naomi Watts here. It's gruesome in places but I couldn't take my eyes off it.



Yes to both of these, although I must admit Slumdog Millionaire would probably feature slightly higher for me. I only watched it for the first time a couple of weeks ago and it was much better than what I was expecting. Well deserving of its Oscar haul. As for Eastern Promises, I preferred it to A History of Violence so a big thumbs up from me.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 1:40:18 PM   
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 60 Frozen River (2009)

A film for now. Desperation, poverty and segregation all play a part here. Melissa Leo is magnificent as are all the no-name cast. It didn't get much of a UK release but is worth checking out on DVD (available in all good stockists now). Highly recommended.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 1:45:24 PM   
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 59 The Wrestler (2009)

Heartbreaking. Eye opening.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 1:49:48 PM   
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 58 Belleville Rendezvous (2003)

Also known as the Triplets of Belleville, this is mesmerising barmy brilliance.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 2:02:25 PM   
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59 The Wrestler (2009)

Heartbreaking. Eye opening.


Another splendid choice.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 3:47:29 PM   
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I find Chopper overated sorry!  Darjeerling Limtied and 28 Weeks Later are both soft choices, however i am delighted to see both Mulholland Drive (Lynch's second best ever film and still the best picture of the last decade) and Sideways which never fails to entertain and move me on so many different levels.  Wonderfully acted, directed and written.

Shaun of the Dead is a contender for best comedy of the last decade without question.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 5:13:56 PM   
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 57 The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford (2007)

Casey Affleck again in what I think is a pure work of art.

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RE: Frankie's 100 Favourite Noughties Films. - 14/12/2009 5:26:39 PM   
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 56 The Departed (2006)

Brilliant film with fine performances. Scorsese was well due an Oscar win so whilst I think he should've got it for earlier films such as Taxi Driver or Goodfellas, it was great to see him getting just reward for this. But really, it's Leo's film. He's superb here.
Oh and call me thick if you want, but I still don't understand why it's caled "The Departed"





55 Inglourious Basterds (2009)

Lots of excellent sequences which don't quite add up coherently. But still, it's such an enjoyable return to form for Tarantino and very rewatchable. Christoph Waltz steals the film of course.






54 The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)

Never been much of a Bond fan so wasn't expecting much from the Bourne movies. But they are something else entirely. This concluding part of the trilogy is fantastic.


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