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TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs - One. And the winner is *drumr... - 13/10/2009 6:16:21 PM   
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As a corollary / homage / blatant rip-off of Rinc's [probably far superior] thread, I've decided to do my own countdown, albeit somewhat shorter. I don't listen to that much music that isn't rock of one description or other, so I've decided to limit it to rock songs. This'll cover a wide spectrum though - indie, punk, metal, grunge, classic rock - it's all eligible.

Comments, abuse, suggestions and mocking are all widely encouraged. The more participation the better. No. 101 will be up soon.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 6:18:28 PM   
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Will there be some Boards of Canada?

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 6:23:05 PM   
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Will there be some Boards of Canada?


Um... there might be some Nickelback?

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 6:28:47 PM   
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Will there be some Boards of Canada?


Um... there might be some Nickelback?



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(but yeah, looking forward to your choices. Less Oasis and Darkness, more Smiths and Idlewild plzz. )

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 9:02:31 PM   
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Looking forward to it, it'll be good to have a rival thread! Although you'll get to number 1 sooner than me.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 9:19:18 PM   
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Doors, Hendrix and Dylan are a must. Restrict the Oasis, and I shall bum this thread

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 11:29:15 PM   
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Will there be some Boards of Canada?


Um... there might be some Nickelback?





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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 13/10/2009 11:35:31 PM   
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Doors, Hendrix and Dylan are a must. Restrict the Oasis, and I shall bum this thread


I'm with this threat. And I suggest to nuke it from orbit when Nickelback are mentioned.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 14/10/2009 11:57:41 PM   
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No. 101: The Kinks - All Day and All Of The Night




"The only time I feel right is by your side..."


A classic to kick things off. Although many of The Kinks' classic songs are more of the light rock/pop variety, it's this one [along with its immediate predecessor You Really Got Me] that are arguably more important, given the sheer number of bands who've taken some level of influence from it. In essence, it's fairly simple - a straightforward, catchy riff, uncomplicated lyrics and a memorable sing-along chorus. Yet it's these elements that make the song as good as it is, not just because it laid the foundation for hard-rock as a genre, but because they're perfectly executed here. Many have imitated this over the years [including The Doors, who lifted it wholesale for Hello, I Love You], but few have managed to do it so well. Often, in rock music, it's the simple things that work the best and this is as good a demonstration of that as you could hope to find.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMWNwHof0kc&feature=related

Get it on: Kinksize Hits EP [1964], or various best-of / greatest-hits packages

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 12:02:37 AM   
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Fantastic choice.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 12:04:10 AM   
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You can never go wrong with The Kinks. Top choice squire.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 12:11:45 AM   
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Great Choice with that track!

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 12:27:08 AM   
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I've not heard the song, but the fuck is up with Jack Bauer? 

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 12:29:35 AM   
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Even if the picture was a mistake, there's an amusing "All day" pun to be had.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 1:56:02 AM   
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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 7:50:32 AM   
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Excellent start; maybe my favourite Kinks song.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - Upcoming - 15/10/2009 8:07:39 AM   
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I've not heard the song, but the fuck is up with Jack Bauer?


Not a mistake. A series of 24 runs for all day and all of the night, does it not?



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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 15/10/2009 11:58:57 PM   
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No. 100: Manic Street Preachers - A Design For Life




"We don't talk about love, we only want to get drunk..."


A lesser band might well have crumbled at the stage the Manics were at in 1995-96. Their last album, 1994's harrowing The Holy Bible, had been acclaimed but flopped commercially, and then Richey Edwards disappeared in early 1995, presumably via suicide. Yet they stuck it out as a three-piece and went on to release this, arguably their definitive song. If not quite as nihilistic as their earlier work, it's still along the same lines lyrically, with a sense of disgust at the nation. Our generation has so much information at their disposal, and the ability to do whatever they want, yet we waste our time getting pissed without achieving anything. It's almost a response to Oasis' Cigarettes and Alcohol.

And then what happened? The very people who the song satirises adopted it as a drinking anthem and suddenly the Manics became one of the biggest groups in the country. What's a band to do? Mainly, the reason for this is because it's the first time that the group were able to combine great lyrics with truly anthemic music. It sounds huge and even back on release it sounded classic. Plus the chorus is hardly difficult to sing along to. Some may deride the group as having sold out from here-on in, but it's a rare band that can have something to say and do so in a method that strikes a chord with the masses, and for that the Manic Street Preachers should be treasured.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz00_3LbdmM

Get it on: Everything Must Go [1996]

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 16/10/2009 12:05:58 AM   
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A Design For Life is a modern masterpiece, it'd be in my top 50 tracks. Interesting you mention it as the response to Cigarettes & Alcohol - on the documentary that comes with the re-released version from a few years ago, Nicky says that the song was a fairly direct stab at Britpop (trufax). One thing I feel the need to point out, though:

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Mainly, the reason for this is because it's the first time that the group were able to combine great lyrics with truly anthemic music.





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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 16/10/2009 12:09:51 AM   
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A Design For Life is a modern masterpiece, it'd be in my top 50 tracks. Interesting you mention it as the response to Cigarettes & Alcohol - on the documentary that comes with the re-released version from a few years ago, Nicky says that the song was a fairly direct stab at Britpop (trufax). One thing I feel the need to point out, though:

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Mainly, the reason for this is because it's the first time that the group were able to combine great lyrics with truly anthemic music.






I should be clearer. There's terrific music and lyrics on many songs off the Holy Bible [and earlier], but not quite in that stadium-anthem sort of way, which this song pulls off. Not that they're worse songs for that, but just great in a different way. I know Motorcycle Emptiness does the anthemic thing very well too, but its lyrics aren't quite so good.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 16/10/2009 12:17:40 AM   
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Ah I get you now, I was only referring to Motorcycle Emptiness being an stadium-y anthem of sorts - though I agree that its lyrics don't really stand up to The Holy Bible and Everything Must Go (or Gold Against The Soul, or Journal for Plague Lovers actually). It's the kind of song I would love to see live if you get me (still gutted I didn't catch them on this year's tour due to exams, hopefully a few tracks from Journal will stay in the setlist but it's unlikely). More Manic Street Preachers btw, best British mainstream band of the 90s (after Blur) imo.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 18/10/2009 5:32:35 PM   
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No. 99: The Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated




"Just put me in a wheelchair and get me to the show; hurry, hurry, hurry before I go loco"


Every punk band in history - from Sex Pistols to Green Day - owes a debt to The Ramones, who practically invented the genre. It's easy to criticise them - the songs are the epitome of simple musically, they all sound more or less the same and the lyrics tend to be more in common with pop-punk subject matters [boredom, drugs, girls] than about social upheaval or the like - but the sheer energy is often enough to pull the song through, and when the formula works, it really works. And it never worked better than on I Wanna Be Sedated, one of their best known songs. It's a perfect pop-punk song, with memorable, riffs running throughout, an instantly catchy chorus and a relentlessly cheerful tone that can't help but a smile on your face, despite the theme of tedium. In short, it's the total opposite of a sedative.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMD7Ezp3gWc

Get it on: Road To Ruin [1978]

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #100 - Manic ... - 19/10/2009 5:04:29 PM   
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I love All Day and All of the Night and Design For Life. I like The Ramones as well but like you say a lot of their songs are similar so i wouldn't pick them myself. Great start though.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #98 - Slayer - 19/10/2009 9:51:06 PM   
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No. 98: Slayer - Angel of Death




'Millions laid out in their crowded tombs, sickening ways to achieve the Holocaust"


A veritable demolition ball of a song, this little charmer launches straight into life with a thunderous riff and the lines, "Auschwitz, the meaning of pain, the way that I want you to die," and barely lets up throughout the running time, which at nearly five minutes is practically an epic by Slayer standards. Based on the fun exploits of Nazi psychopath Josef Mengele, its lyrical content [detailing various nasty experiments] kicked up a hell of a fuss back in 1986 and none of the impact has been lost over the years. But whatever you may think of the subject matter [and, needless to say, it's not as if the band shared Mengele's attitude, despite what many seemed to think], there's little denying that musically, this is a metal tour de force. After the first, extraordinarily intense, couple of minutes, there's a terrific rapid-fire guitar solo and then some even more rapid-fire drumming, before all the instruments are seemingly battered to within an inch of their lives as the song thunders to it's conclusion. By the end, you feel exhausted just listening to it.

Needless to say, this is hardly for everyone. But if you like your metal, this one is essential.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0

Get it on: Reign in Blood [1986]


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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #98 - Slayer - 20/10/2009 11:29:52 AM   
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SLAYERRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't like them as much as I used to, but I can still appreciate Reign of Blood, South of Heaven and Seasons. Dead Skin Mask is just one of the best metal songs ever.

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #98 - Slayer - 20/10/2009 1:49:52 PM   
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I love Want to be Sedated another cracking track there TJ!

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #97 - The Str... - 22/10/2009 8:38:46 AM   
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No.97: The Stranglers - No More Heroes




"Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky, he got an ice pick that made his ears burn?"


In the annals of late-70s UK punk groups, the Stranglers tend to be less well-regarded than many of their contemporaries. This isn't entirely unfair, given their inconsistency even as a singles band, but every now and then they pulled off something sublime. Golden Brown is probably the better known song, but this one arguably trumps, keeping up the knack of a good melody while being, well, just that bit more exciting.Containing references to the likes of Leon Trotsky and Sancho Panza, this is, as the title suggests, a bemoaning of the lack of people to idolise these days, a complaint that still holds relevance today. Beyond that, it's just a terrific song; less abrasive then many punk songs of the era, it rocks plenty while still being a good sing-along, and even has a stab at a guitar solo in the middle, which at least highlights a degree of musical skill, something often lacking in the punk world.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4pkNcE8nsM

Get it on: No More Heroes [1977]

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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #96 - The Jim... - 24/10/2009 12:16:37 PM   
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Audiophile seems to be a ghost town these days... oh well. Here's a couple for the weekend:

No. 96: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower




"'There must be some kind of way out of here,' said the joker to the thief"



In its way, this is possibly the most perfect meeting of minds in the history of rock music. Bob Dylan is one of the all-time great songwriters but not the best singer [although he's not half as bad as some make him out to be], while Jimi Hendrix is one of the all-time great musicians yet, for me anyway, he's a much better guitarist than songwriter. Thus, when you put together a song originally done by Dylan and add Hendrix's typically sublime guitar playing to the mix, the result should therefore be rock's equivalent of gold, right?

Thankfully, it is. While Dylan's version is a decent song, if not one of his best, it's the makeover given to it by Hendrix that's the main reason, by taking the potential showed by the original and expanding it into something altogether better. It's not just the soloing that improves it, it's everything - the opening riffs, the singing, the extra length - all of which turns a previously pleasant experience into a truly thrilling one. Even when Dylan played the song live afterwards, it was far more in line with Hendrix's take. But then, he's hardly short of his own classics. As for Hendrix, well, it's hard to say anything new about his guitar playing. Just listen and enjoy a master.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7s4i_X-p0

Get it on: Electric Ladyland (1968)


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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #96 - The Jim... - 24/10/2009 12:30:09 PM   
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No. 95: The Cure - Friday I'm In Love




"Monday you can fall apart; Tuesday, Wednesday break my heart"


Given their influence on the gothic music scene, it's odd how many cheerful, upbeat songs The Cure are known for. Boys Don't Cry and Inbetween Days are superb, but it's this sweet singalong that probably marks their peak. Quite simply, it's a perfect pop song, nothing too profound or innovative, just a fun tune celebrating love. Wonderfully catchy and almost charmingly innocent [the line, "Such a gorgeous sight to see you eat in the middle of the night" could be taken in a cruder metaphorical fashion, but that kinda kills the mood], this is pretty much guaranteed to cheer you up no matter what your situation. Even if it's Monday morning.

Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmfNxmaQHc

Get it on: Wish 1992


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RE: TJ's Top 101 Rock Songs of all time - #96 - The Jim... - 24/10/2009 8:42:32 PM   
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Two fantastic picks those. Friday I'm In Love isn't my favourite Cure song but it's genius.

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