benskelly
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Joined: 28/8/2007 From: To Your Immediate Left
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ORIGINAL: benskelly Well, I agree with being civil. (ahem) But maybe he just means that saying a movie that made $461,983,149 in worldwide gross is only liked by a "minority" could be perceived as a) presumptuous b) pretentious and/or c) completely inaccurate. I'm not as fond of Finding Nemo - doesn't change that it was a huge hit. Pretending to what exactly, since the word has inexplicably been included there. I'd genuinely like to know. Cash receipts are could be considered irrelevant - parents take their kids to the new Pixar, it's got bog all to do with it being any good. Ranking the Pixars in lists virtually every single list has Cars at, or just above the bottom - because, in context with their other releases, an awful lot of people do genuinely think it is utter pants. And that is a fairly random selection of people who post on here. Even my nephew thought it was tosh. He liked the Cars toys - he's never wanted to see the film again. Me I'm different. Irrespective of the other releases, I still think it was pants. Pretty colours and graphics. Bloody awful writing. Find an actual writer this time and don't spend all your time on the pwetty pwetty colours. Then it might be less pants. Job solved. Could not disagree with you more. I think Cars has a great story about taking responsibility for your mistakes, slowing down to enjoy life and realizing the journey is more important than winning the race. That, to me, may be the very best theme Pixar has ever communicated. I love the characters, they're rich and very funny. There's tons of clever plays on the car-centric universe. A nifty romance. I think the writing is excellent. Job solved. But yes, it is also an incredibly gorgeous film, where every frame feels frameable. I don't think I've ever seen an animated film that was so eye-popping throughout. My top Pixar choices (below) are the ones that I feel combine great storytelling with a huge leap forward in the medium's visual vernacular. These are visual films, all the way. And I prefer a 'mature palette', if you will - my bottom three feel the most like "kid's films". They're still pretty damn great, mind you. I think the whole Pixar catalogue is amazing. I don't understand why you're so vehement on Cars, but to each his own - our tastes differ and not everybody will agree with you on your every pronouncement. Pronouncement? It's an opinion like the rest on this thread as opposed to talking down to someone who just happens to disagree. And the word 'pretentious'? I did express curiousity about its use as I assumed it was being used properly? I'm 'vehement' because I thought the film was bloody awful. And a shocking drop in quality from a studio that had tried hard up till then to not subvert story to visuals. Hence my Lucas anaology - ta Dev! You might want to add your Pixar list here though. Just in case you thought my other comment above was hyperbole. http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=2106569&mpage=1&key=pixar You know what? Surprisingly, that thread didn't change my mind about what I like and don't like. Imagine that. Well, I gave you plenty of opportunities to discuss specifics, but since you seem much more comfortable just repeating yourself over and over, I'll give you time for a lie-down. The other poster is right - and I think he explained the use of the word "pretentious" perfectly - you are just parroting a line from before the movie even opened, as most do. The same way people unanimously praise Finding Nemo when I found it rather tepid. The other thing I think people do is ascribe some strange political "red state" ideology to the film, which I see absolutely no evidence of whatsoever. I am a Liberal Democrat all the way who vomited in his mouth every day of Bush's disastrous administration, but Cars has no right-wing agenda...AT ALL. And as much as I can't stand Larry The Cable Guy as a comedian, in the context of the movie he works well. Okay. Go ahead and pop a blood vessel. I'm gone.
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