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RE: - 24/8/2009 8:03:22 PM   
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Christ I'm not sure which is worse, people suggesting it doesn't look good and hasn't gotten the "dreamscape" after seeing a few seconds of what we assume to be a scene in his mind.  Or the people declaring it to look amazing and better than TDK.

At least Devi backs up his point a bit with pointing out Nolan visual style doesn't particularly lean towards the fantastical.  Though I think that's unfair to an extent as just because he hasn't used that visual style doesn't mean he isn't capable of it.

It's got me curious as i like a lot of Nolan's work.  But lets not get hyperbolic in either direction.


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Tease me - 24/8/2009 8:04:30 PM   
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for a teaser trailer, it was sadly lacking in any tease...more 'ho hum' seen that before. Will wait to see more before passing judgment.

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RE: - 24/8/2009 8:09:32 PM   
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That was SO COOL! Seriously that was wicked. I have faith that Christopher Nolan can make a good film out of this, and after that trailer i'm already intrigued.

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 8:22:42 PM   
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From this one minute I have seen I will say that even The Cell got the concept better. That film was based in the realm of the mind and dreams and certainly got the dreamscapes right. And so did Paprika.

Honestly, why Nolan for this?


But The Cell was a bit too "ooh look at the weird stuff" for me, isn't Paprika animated? It may be able to get away with things live action can't. Anyway, it's wait and see for me but I'm confident it'll be worth catching.

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Ohhh Myyy - 24/8/2009 8:44:05 PM   
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Oh my i didnt expect anything like this when i heard about him making this movie..

i was expecting somthing along the lines of Body of Lies or some kind of movie like that. but this is better then anything i could have dreamd for by the looks of it.. lets hope it lives up to the ever growing hype this movie will get

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Are you watching Jim? - 24/8/2009 8:53:34 PM   
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Wow; now thats a teaser trailer! Can't wait to find out more...maybe Jim Cameron should get in touch with Chris Nolan's marketing department!?! Less is often more...

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Are you watching Jim? - 24/8/2009 8:53:38 PM   
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I would like to point out that I have drunk quite a few lagers tonight and I watched that on the biggest computer monitor I have ever seen so I really think its shiny...still don't like the Avatar trailer though (Im going to go and drink more beer and see if I like it then)...

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 9:44:35 PM   
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Honestly, why Nolan for this?


The obvious answer would be: because he directed the most watched film in America of the decade and any studio would be happy to throw money at him.

Artistically I also think he's great, but I'm not going to spend paragraphs trying to convince anyone here.

EDIT - come to think of it, another very obvious reason why it's Nolan is that he wrote the script...


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inception - 24/8/2009 10:00:11 PM   
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honestly didn't thrill me but it's Nolan so I have faith and that cast is incredible.

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- 24/8/2009 10:01:34 PM   
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iiiiinnnnteresting.....

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 10:15:21 PM   
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Honestly, why Nolan for this?


The obvious answer would be: because he directed the most watched film in America of the decade and any studio would be happy to throw money at him.

Artistically I also think he's great, but I'm not going to spend paragraphs trying to convince anyone here.

EDIT - come to think of it, another very obvious reason why it's Nolan is that he wrote the script...



Well thank you Mr. Obvious-who-has-to-answer-a-rhetorical-question man.

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 10:24:07 PM   
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Oh. Well, it's hard to tell on the internet. And you did express a similar sentiment in the future films thread. I'm so confused..

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 10:43:52 PM   
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From this one minute I have seen I will say that even The Cell got the concept better. That film was based in the realm of the mind and dreams and certainly got the dreamscapes right. And so did Paprika.

Honestly, why Nolan for this?


But The Cell was a bit too "ooh look at the weird stuff" for me, isn't Paprika animated? It may be able to get away with things live action can't. Anyway, it's wait and see for me but I'm confident it'll be worth catching.


It is dreams, it is subjective, of course it is weird, it is fantasy, surreal, bizarre. Maybe not in the level of The Cell, Vertigo or Spellbound but please don't make a 200 million sci-fi about dreams and make them straightfoward and realistic. At least in Open your Eyes and Buneal's films you had some imagery. Some symbolism. I have still not seen that in Nolan, not once (except possibly in Insomnia, possibly).

And Paprika is animated but it did have some stunning imagery and visuals.

Mind you this is a one minute teaser I am talking about. So it could still surprise me. Like The Dark Knight did.

Paprika is animated but still had a similar plot.

EDIT: I just remembered Doodlebug, sorry, move along.

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 10:55:44 PM   
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Oh. Well, it's hard to tell on the internet. And you did express a similar sentiment in the future films thread. I'm so confused..


I did, but that question was rhetorical. I just wish someone with more a visual eye could take the same concept(well Kon and Tarsem did). Especially seeing it live action would have been great and surely the things you could do with 200 million would be endless.

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RE: RE: - 24/8/2009 11:14:11 PM   
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At least Devi backs up his point a bit with pointing out Nolan visual style doesn't particularly lean towards the fantastical.  Though I think that's unfair to an extent as just because he hasn't used that visual style doesn't mean he isn't capable of it.

It's got me curious as i like a lot of Nolan's work.  But lets not get hyperbolic in either direction.



To be honest I just remembered Doodlebug. Which did have quite a good fantastical, surreal element. You can ignore some of my comments I posted to Woger please. I just hope his realistic tendencies didn't go to his mind.

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 24/8/2009 11:23:39 PM   
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Looks interesting. But does not appear to represent it's $200M budget.


With a 1 minute teaser I'd be fucking amazed if it did.

Great teaser. I feel teased. I want MORE. Jumped to No.1 in my most anticipated of 2010 (followed by Clash of the Titans).

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 25/8/2009 12:13:14 AM   
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The only reason why it's interesting is because it says "a Christopher Nolan film". The crime in your mind shit makes it sound like Vitruousity, and the scenes shown tell you absolutely nothing, only that they attempt to remind us of The Matrix.

On a side note, Leo DiCaprio looks seriously depressed in his last string of roles. Maybe he should try something a little more lightweight.



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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 25/8/2009 1:29:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Deviation

From this one minute I have seen I will say that even The Cell got the concept better. That film was based in the realm of the mind and dreams and certainly got the dreamscapes right. And so did Paprika.

Honestly, why Nolan for this?


But The Cell was a bit too "ooh look at the weird stuff" for me, isn't Paprika animated? It may be able to get away with things live action can't. Anyway, it's wait and see for me but I'm confident it'll be worth catching.


It is dreams, it is subjective, of course it is weird, it is fantasy, surreal, bizarre. Maybe not in the level of The Cell, Vertigo or Spellbound but please don't make a 200 million sci-fi about dreams and make them straightfoward and realistic. At least in Open your Eyes and Buneal's films you had some imagery. Some symbolism. I have still not seen that in Nolan, not once (except possibly in Insomnia, possibly).

And Paprika is animated but it did have some stunning imagery and visuals.

Mind you this is a one minute teaser I am talking about. So it could still surprise me.
Like The Dark Knight did.

Paprika is animated but still had a similar plot.

EDIT: I just remembered Doodlebug, sorry, move along.


Keep the bold in mind, Devi, and everyone else going crazy on either side. The amount of hyperbole slinging both ways is ridiculous (though declaring The Cell and Paprika to have better imagery than the entirety of this film based on two scenes in a teaser trailer is plumbing lows usually reserved for a certain someone in the Unpopular Opinion thread ).

It's intriguing - it's not an amazing teaser (I was expecting a bit more from the hallway fight based on what I'd been told) but it does appear to be going for a more reality-based dreamscape, and that's fine. Dreams aren't all unicorns and screaming trees, so I don't see why we need to expect full-on fantasy from a dream-based film - though I don't necessarily think Nolan won't engage in the fantastical in the film (as you said, Devi, Doodlebug seems to point at a side of Nolan he's not yet explored).


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'A guy dressed as a porter'? - 25/8/2009 2:00:10 AM   
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I thought that was Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Is he playing a baddie, do you think?

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 25/8/2009 6:57:53 AM   
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Hmm, they're really playing on the fact that Nolan directed The Dark Knight here, lots of blues, high crane/pan over a big city, night time etc.etc. then it turns into a Matrix type flying through the air fight thing. I like Nolan though TDK was amazing, I really enjoyed The Prestige as well. It's a little strange how much Joseph Gordon Levitt is looking like the late Heath Ledger these days.

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Now, Don't Get Too Excited - 25/8/2009 7:03:51 AM   
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Wow everybody, look a teaser trailer for a film that is only half completed! Fair play though, it does look intriguing. Just one thing, anybody else think that the only reason we got this trailer so early on is because of the rumors that Nolan was actually filming Batman 3? Hmmmm, inquiring minds need to know

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 25/8/2009 10:11:25 AM   
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I appreciated the return of the 'Why So Serious?' strings.
I, like the majority of people who will see this in the cinema, invested my interest the moment the tag 'from the director of The Dark Knight' flashed onscreen. The trailers and promotion can be as cryptic as they like because as long as people are aware of Nolan's previous credit, this film's going to do very well (provided there isn't some kind of critical backlash...which wouldn't be too unexpected).

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- 25/8/2009 10:17:35 AM   
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Move along, nothing to see here...

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The Incredible Suit says... - 25/8/2009 10:39:21 AM   
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This looks to be just as spanky as Nolan's other non-Batflicks (Insomnia excepted). Memento is endlessly rewatchable and The Prestige, despite having a twist you could see from the cinema car park, was also an atmospheric and disturbing winner. Even Leonardo DiCaprio, who's sporting that expression that makes him look like he's trying to calculate a complex equation while holding in a potentially violent fart, might not be able to sink this one.

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RE: RE: - 25/8/2009 12:09:54 PM   
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At least Devi backs up his point a bit with pointing out Nolan visual style doesn't particularly lean towards the fantastical.  Though I think that's unfair to an extent as just because he hasn't used that visual style doesn't mean he isn't capable of it.

It's got me curious as i like a lot of Nolan's work.  But lets not get hyperbolic in either direction.



To be honest I just remembered Doodlebug. Which did have quite a good fantastical, surreal element. You can ignore some of my comments I posted to Woger please. I just hope his realistic tendencies didn't go to his mind.


I always thought the totally non-linear narrative and murky soundtrack to The Prestige gave it a dream-like quality, even if the imagery was fairly standard. I guess  I think of a 'dream-like quality' as being more tonal and sensation based than visual, even in the medium of film, but I've no idea if that feeling will be replicated in Inception...

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Not a lot to go on... - 25/8/2009 1:09:49 PM   
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But I am still very excited. I just hope the film can stay this secretive until release. Imagine not knowing every twist of the plot/action sequence/costume change of a film before you go and see it!

No, I can't imagine it either.

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RE: Inception Teaser Trailer Now Online - 25/8/2009 1:11:40 PM   
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From this one minute I have seen I will say that even The Cell got the concept better. That film was based in the realm of the mind and dreams and certainly got the dreamscapes right. And so did Paprika.

Honestly, why Nolan for this?


But The Cell was a bit too "ooh look at the weird stuff" for me, isn't Paprika animated? It may be able to get away with things live action can't. Anyway, it's wait and see for me but I'm confident it'll be worth catching.


It is dreams, it is subjective, of course it is weird, it is fantasy, surreal, bizarre. Maybe not in the level of The Cell, Vertigo or Spellbound but please don't make a 200 million sci-fi about dreams and make them straightfoward and realistic. At least in Open your Eyes and Buneal's films you had some imagery. Some symbolism. I have still not seen that in Nolan, not once (except possibly in Insomnia, possibly).

And Paprika is animated but it did have some stunning imagery and visuals.

Mind you this is a one minute teaser I am talking about. So it could still surprise me.
Like The Dark Knight did.

Paprika is animated but still had a similar plot.

EDIT: I just remembered Doodlebug, sorry, move along.


Keep the bold in mind, Devi, and everyone else going crazy on either side. The amount of hyperbole slinging both ways is ridiculous (though declaring The Cell and Paprika to have better imagery than the entirety of this film based on two scenes in a teaser trailer is plumbing lows usually reserved for a certain someone in the Unpopular Opinion thread ).

It's intriguing - it's not an amazing teaser (I was expecting a bit more from the hallway fight based on what I'd been told) but it does appear to be going for a more reality-based dreamscape, and that's fine. Dreams aren't all unicorns and screaming trees, so I don't see why we need to expect full-on fantasy from a dream-based film - though I don't necessarily think Nolan won't engage in the fantastical in the film (as you said, Devi, Doodlebug seems to point at a side of Nolan he's not yet explored).



I was somewhat basing it as well on what I had seen previously from Nolan, forgetting Doodlebug. And his Batman films. But yeah, I did fall on those levels. I was being silly there, see unlike you I can accept when I am being nonsensical. I am not expecting full on fantasy (Amenabar, Bunuel, Holland did some impressive work without going full on fantasy). It's just these Batman films that piss me off a bit. Well, one Batman film.

Plus I did say I was being silly, like you were being silly about the characterization in Pierrot le Fou and Alien. Oh sick Burn!!!!111!!!!

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RE: RE: - 25/8/2009 1:11:47 PM   
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At least Devi backs up his point a bit with pointing out Nolan visual style doesn't particularly lean towards the fantastical.  Though I think that's unfair to an extent as just because he hasn't used that visual style doesn't mean he isn't capable of it.

It's got me curious as i like a lot of Nolan's work.  But lets not get hyperbolic in either direction.



To be honest I just remembered Doodlebug. Which did have quite a good fantastical, surreal element. You can ignore some of my comments I posted to Woger please. I just hope his realistic tendencies didn't go to his mind.


I always thought the totally non-linear narrative and murky soundtrack to The Prestige gave it a dream-like quality, even if the imagery was fairly standard. I guess  I think of a 'dream-like quality' as being more tonal and sensation based than visual, even in the medium of film, but I've no idea if that feeling will be replicated in Inception...



I still think The Prestige is a mess (the plot is poor imho, and I still feel cheated at the end). But I was severely disappointed by that film, all I saw at the end it was a frustrating melodrama.

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RE: RE: - 25/8/2009 1:40:30 PM   
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I guessed you thought that , but my point still stands...

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RE: RE: - 25/8/2009 3:26:42 PM   
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Hmm, certainly intriguing, despite being told next to nothing. I agree with those who said the CGI titles in-between the footage looked a little on the naff side, but I assume that's been knocked together fairly quickly, seeing as they've only just started filming.

Not to go on about Avatar, but these short pieces of footage are far more interesting to me than what I've seen of Cameron's opus (as of yet, anyway).

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