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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 18/6/2009 4:13:30 PM   
Timon


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They should have sent a poet.


Many Apollo astronauts turned to poetry and art upon their return as a way of trying to convey what they saw and felt, Apollo 12's Alan Bean being the most notable.

 

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 18/6/2009 10:35:40 PM   
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Here is the BBC Moon season

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2009/06_june/08/moon2.shtml

Looks neat.

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 18/6/2009 10:58:22 PM   
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That looks awesome. Can't wait.

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 24/6/2009 3:07:22 PM   
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I watched the 30min programme where James May went as close to space as you can in a U2 spy plane. Awesome.

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 24/6/2009 3:11:07 PM   
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I'm halfway through the documentary on the moon narrated by Sean Pertwee. Very interesting so far. Will watch the rest tonight.

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 29/6/2009 5:51:04 PM   
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I've just...ahem...stumbled across a host of documentaries about the moon landing, including some of the most in-depth coverage I've ever seen (a 6-disc DVD set about the Apollo 16 landing? Three more than A-11 gets?)  So far, I've got (or am getting) Apollos 8-12, 16 and 17, as well as a couple of stand-alone docs on A-11 including For All Mankind (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097372/), which I've never seen but was aware of through Brian Eno's work on the soundtrack. 

What more appropriate way is there to celebrate mankind's crowing achievement than to watch a whole month's worth of DVDs on the subject?

Ti, usual rules apply mate


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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 29/6/2009 6:50:23 PM   
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Those documentaries sound amazing.

Been wathing some From Earth to the Moon.

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 29/6/2009 7:12:36 PM   
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The individual mission sets contain pretty much every bit of recorded footage from each mission, all digitally remastered.  All the crew-shot material, all the TV coverage, all the official recordings, as well as some seriously in-depth documentaries.  A very nice find indeed 

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RE: Empire's Space & Interstellar Exploration Thread - 1/7/2009 4:01:02 PM   
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Sounds amazing... but a whole months worth!?! Considering reading Moondust again, which I recommend and buying the Armstrong biopic - First Man.

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 21/7/2009 8:22:36 AM   
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Happy Moon Landing Day!





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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 21/7/2009 9:00:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Timon

Happy Moon Landing Day!


If you believe it really happened that is

I know it's a different topic here, but apart from concorde, why have we gone backwards as a human race since this historic day? Admittedly, I'm the first one to complain about the money wasted on space travel, it seems like all they do nowadays is fuck up, expensively at that, perhaps it's time as a planet we tried take that next step as a species. I'd rather the money were spent on cancer research, but I would't begrudge a few billion if we actually achieved something.
Are we any closer do you think to actually -  I don't know, the most logical stage is to land on Mars - taking another giant leap for mankind?
Is there anything to be gained? I've heard all the arguments about what we've achieved due to space travel (velcro being the most depressingly obvious invention championed every time the issue is raised)
Why not invent these things for space travel without actually travelling in space at all?
It's the actual "travelling" that costs the most and achieves nothing.
Let's just pretend we're going to Mars, invent all these new cool things but then actually not bother lifting off?
Enlighten me, nerdy NASA freaks!


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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 21/7/2009 11:00:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jonson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Happy Moon Landing Day!


If you believe it really happened that is

I know it's a different topic here, but apart from concorde, why have we gone backwards as a human race since this historic day? Admittedly, I'm the first one to complain about the money wasted on space travel, it seems like all they do nowadays is fuck up, expensively at that, perhaps it's time as a planet we tried take that next step as a species. I'd rather the money were spent on cancer research, but I would't begrudge a few billion if we actually achieved something.
Are we any closer do you think to actually -  I don't know, the most logical stage is to land on Mars - taking another giant leap for mankind?
Is there anything to be gained? I've heard all the arguments about what we've achieved due to space travel (velcro being the most depressingly obvious invention championed every time the issue is raised)
Why not invent these things for space travel without actually travelling in space at all?
It's the actual "travelling" that costs the most and achieves nothing.
Let's just pretend we're going to Mars, invent all these new cool things but then actually not bother lifting off?
Enlighten me, nerdy NASA freaks!



Cause unless there is a need for these things to be used in space, no one will invest. The off shoots are a benefit of research and not the end goal.

I suspect that the Chinese will be getting to the moon in the next couple of decades. Amercia will be back there the next day.

Mars is difficult due to a) it being months away from Earth. Anything screws up out there and there is no chance of a rescue b) solar radiaton. We are protected here on Earth from it, and as the flights to the moon only lasted a few days they managed to avoid series contact. But being out there for eight months you heighten the risk of being exposed. There isn't a sure fire away of protecting against this yet, and there won't be until there is a will to get to Mars. I know there is the argument that money should be spent elsewhere, but mankind have always been explorerers. It is who we are. There should be a base on the Moon by now, somewhere scientests can work and construct launch pads for Mars. But the political will isn't there. The shuttles were expensive and didn't really progress us forward all that much. At times it felt like the crews were just maintence teams doing routine work - at least thats the feeling you got from NASA press releases.

I believe that any mission to Mars will require more than one ship heading there at the same time, as well as all the materials being sent in advance to set up a base.

I hope it happens in my lifetime.

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 10:45:38 AM   
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It is possible they were faked though... I mean not everyone at NASA had to be in on it....

Are there any decent site that fully disprove each conspiracy point?

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 10:54:44 AM   
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It is possible they were faked though... I mean not everyone at NASA had to be in on it....

Are there any decent site that fully disprove each conspiracy point?


If there was would you immediately believe that it's true? People will always conspiracise about this, but it happened, and is still Mankind's greatest achievement. Embrace the glory!

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:04:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinatra

It is possible they were faked though... I mean not everyone at NASA had to be in on it....

Are there any decent site that fully disprove each conspiracy point?


If there was would you immediately believe that it's true? People will always conspiracise about this, but it happened, and is still Mankind's greatest achievement. Embrace the glory!


I'm 99% sure it's true...

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:10:36 AM   
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http://www.aulis.com/exposing_apollo1.htm

what about the vanishing LM?

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:13:59 AM   
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Wikipedia seems fairly definitive on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories#Specific_hoax_claims_examined



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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:25:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jonson

If you believe it really happened that is

I know it's a different topic here, but apart from concorde, why have we gone backwards as a human race since this historic day? Admittedly, I'm the first one to complain about the money wasted on space travel, it seems like all they do nowadays is fuck up, expensively at that, perhaps it's time as a planet we tried take that next step as a species. I'd rather the money were spent on cancer research, but I would't begrudge a few billion if we actually achieved something.
Are we any closer do you think to actually -  I don't know, the most logical stage is to land on Mars - taking another giant leap for mankind?
Is there anything to be gained? I've heard all the arguments about what we've achieved due to space travel (velcro being the most depressingly obvious invention championed every time the issue is raised)
Why not invent these things for space travel without actually travelling in space at all?
It's the actual "travelling" that costs the most and achieves nothing.
Let's just pretend we're going to Mars, invent all these new cool things but then actually not bother lifting off?
Enlighten me, nerdy NASA freaks!



Space-based solar power could be amazing if it happens.

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:45:23 AM   
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Wikipedia seems fairly definitive on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories#Specific_hoax_claims_examined




Yeah I read a lot of that, couldn't find the vanishing LM explanation though,,, also, quite a few sites contradict each other regarding the lack of stars in any photos.

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:49:04 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Wikipedia seems fairly definitive on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories#Specific_hoax_claims_examined




Yeah I read a lot of that, couldn't find the vanishing LM explanation though,,, also, quite a few sites contradict each other regarding the lack of stars in any photos.


You should try and ask Buzz Aldrin. He's been very helpful when it comes to this subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ez-NpFVwQw

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 11:59:38 AM   
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Can't get You-Tube...

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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 12:37:55 PM   
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Wikipedia seems fairly definitive on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories#Specific_hoax_claims_examined




yup, thats pretty conclusive.

That and the mirrors they placed on the moon to measure its distance hard to do if they didnt land.


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RE: Apollo 11: 40th Anniversary - 22/7/2009 12:39:37 PM   
shool


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MB2

Wikipedia seems fairly definitive on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories#Specific_hoax_claims_examined




Yeah I read a lot of that, couldn't find the vanishing LM explanation though,,, also, quite a few sites contradict each other regarding the lack of stars in any photos.


It sort of is as those mountains could be very very distant objects and with no atmosphere to distort the images they could be stood in front of the LM and the images look very similar.


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RE: The Space Thread - 8/12/2009 2:22:08 PM   
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So what does everyone think of SpaceShipTwo? Or the VSS Enterprise as it has also been called...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8400353.stm


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RE: The Space Thread - 8/12/2009 3:01:51 PM   
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It makes me wish I had money to do it. It would be an amazing experience.

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RE: The Space Thread - 8/12/2009 3:09:05 PM   
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The more people do it then the more it come down in price. I still think its a long time off becoming affordable though.

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RE: The Space Thread - 8/12/2009 3:22:52 PM   
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I'm not sure it will ever be truly affordable, at least certainly not in our or even our grandchildrens lifetimes. But then again, I'm not sure that is necessarily a bad thing. Have you ever flown on budget airlines?  

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RE: The Space Thread - 11/12/2009 2:26:55 PM   
Timon


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There are cheaper alternatives... sort of.

http://www.americainfra.com/news/virgin-galactics-rivals/#


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RE: The Space Thread - 21/7/2010 9:59:12 AM   
Timon


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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Star-320-Times-Bigger-Than-The-Sun-Found-Massive-R136a1-Revolutionises-Astronomical-Thinking/Article/201007315668243?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15668243_Star_320_Times_Bigger_Than_The_Sun_Found%3A_Massive_R136a1_Revolutionises_Astronomical_Thinking

Check out that bad boy!

The video is rather cool as well.


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RE: The Space Thread - 3/8/2010 10:47:22 AM   
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