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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/6/2012 2:27:50 AM   
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Alrighty.

The Modern Family guy was Phil. He was unimpressed by Sam mocking the Rotary Club. What helped assuage the wrath of the Rotarian?

Also, there is yet a-phucking-nother instance of C.J. singing. Season 4 this time. She really does love a sing-song. Clue: does it take 6 hours to travel 90 miles?

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 8/7/2012 11:18:26 PM   
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Shuttle flies itself, Toby.

No, it doesn’t, Mr. President.

No, it doesn’t.


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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 8/7/2012 11:34:18 PM   
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Just started watching this. Half way through season one. Really enjoying it so far - esp the capital punishment episode.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 15/7/2012 4:38:49 PM   
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Just finished watching Season 2, which I thought lagged in middle section because of no real story arc and just episodic episodes. It got A LOT better with the MS storyline culminating in a cracking finale and a brilliant final shot - Two Cathedrals.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 20/7/2012 12:57:28 AM   
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Just finished season 3 (how have I watched it in only 5 days!?). For me, it was the weakest season - I can't quite put my finger on it but it was actually quite boring and repetitive. The writing was just as sharp and snappy as usual but a lot of what the characters were saying I didn't really care about. And how the MS case got discarded was awful, it just seemed like the writers thought the storyline was dragging out (which it wasn't, and they could have got a lot more from it) and just decided to shoe box it. What a shame.

CJ's stalker storyline was interesting but it culminated into something unspectacular. We could have at least seen who it was! (Or maybe that will be revealed next season). Having them kill of Simon was a poor attempt at some emotion because, like the ending of Season 2, they introduced the most interesting storyline at the end of the season so we never really got to see the character develop. "Oh let's show how good he is to society in the final episode by showing him being part of the Big Brother programme." - Poor writing.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 27/7/2012 1:28:53 AM   
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Finished season 4 - a stronger season though i'm a bit gutted at the distinct lack of Sam.
The end of the penultimate episode with the Massive Attack - Angel montage has got to be one of the best scenes I have ever seen in a show. And the last episode, up there with Two Cathedrals.

Looking forward to season 5 - despite the alleged significant dip in quality.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 27/7/2012 10:06:16 AM   
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No, I'd agree with you - season three is the weakest.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 29/7/2012 5:12:31 PM   
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Have almost finished two and for me it is far more consistant than the first season and little less pretchy.

My favourite characters so far are Toby, Josh and Donna they all bring something different to the table and play off the rest beautifully.

I am still unsure of Rob Lowe as Sam, it just seems like he has been at his best when playing slick, sleazy characters and so to try and make him more likeable seems a bit of a up hill task. Althrough I was very impressed with how they handled his realtionship with the call girl from season one, the fact that apart from their night together at the start there was no hint of romance between them was refreshing.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 22/8/2012 11:22:41 PM   
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SPOILERS AHOY

Finished the whole lot. Season 5 was such a slog.

Season 6 found focus with the new presidential campaign; Santos and Vinnick were both really good characters. And don't you just want Alan Alda to be part of your family? What an all round nice guy.

Season 7 was really good, as good as the early seasons. SPOILER! I was gutted to hear about John Spencer - Leo was one of my favourite characters and the way they handled his death was brilliant.

Favourite character - CJ. Probably because I want to be press secretary for some higher up one day. The press room scenes were always sharp, fast paced and exciting.
Worst - Toby. His ex wife admitting she didn't want to remarry because he was eternally sad was one of the best moments of the show - because it hit the nail on the head. I appreciate that was part of his character, but I didn't like it. And whenever he wanted to get a point across, he would always raise his voice at the end of a sentence. Consistent? Perhaps. Annoying? Always.

I'm gonna miss watching this show.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 12:33:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sumintelligentguy

SPOILERS AHOY

Finished the whole lot. Season 5 was such a slog.

Season 6 found focus with the new presidential campaign; Santos and Vinnick were both really good characters. And don't you just want Alan Alda to be part of your family? What an all round nice guy.

Season 7 was really good, as good as the early seasons. SPOILER! I was gutted to hear about John Spencer - Leo was one of my favourite characters and the way they handled his death was brilliant.

Favourite character - CJ. Probably because I want to be press secretary for some higher up one day. The press room scenes were always sharp, fast paced and exciting.
Worst - Toby. His ex wife admitting she didn't want to remarry because he was eternally sad was one of the best moments of the show - because it hit the nail on the head. I appreciate that was part of his character, but I didn't like it. And whenever he wanted to get a point across, he would always raise his voice at the end of a sentence. Consistent? Perhaps. Annoying? Always.

I'm gonna miss watching this show.


Brace yourself! Tho I do agree somewhat, in that he was always miserable... but I think that made the character tbh. You had Josh, Sam, Donna, CJ for the lighter/cheerier moments, but toby seemed to just always be the same.




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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 6:14:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sumintelligentguy

SPOILERS AHOY

Finished the whole lot. Season 5 was such a slog.

Season 6 found focus with the new presidential campaign; Santos and Vinnick were both really good characters. And don't you just want Alan Alda to be part of your family? What an all round nice guy.

Season 7 was really good, as good as the early seasons. SPOILER! I was gutted to hear about John Spencer - Leo was one of my favourite characters and the way they handled his death was brilliant.

Favourite character - CJ. Probably because I want to be press secretary for some higher up one day. The press room scenes were always sharp, fast paced and exciting.
Worst - Toby. His ex wife admitting she didn't want to remarry because he was eternally sad was one of the best moments of the show - because it hit the nail on the head. I appreciate that was part of his character, but I didn't like it. And whenever he wanted to get a point across, he would always raise his voice at the end of a sentence. Consistent? Perhaps. Annoying? Always.

I'm gonna miss watching this show.



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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 6:21:15 PM   
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I thought Toby was everyone's favourite character?! Interesting ... find that genuinely baffling, but respect your opinion and each to his own! It's just such a shame they completely bumbled the character as the series drew to a close.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 6:44:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozzled


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sumintelligentguy

SPOILERS AHOY

Finished the whole lot. Season 5 was such a slog.

Season 6 found focus with the new presidential campaign; Santos and Vinnick were both really good characters. And don't you just want Alan Alda to be part of your family? What an all round nice guy.

Season 7 was really good, as good as the early seasons. SPOILER! I was gutted to hear about John Spencer - Leo was one of my favourite characters and the way they handled his death was brilliant.

Favourite character - CJ. Probably because I want to be press secretary for some higher up one day. The press room scenes were always sharp, fast paced and exciting.
Worst - Toby. His ex wife admitting she didn't want to remarry because he was eternally sad was one of the best moments of the show - because it hit the nail on the head. I appreciate that was part of his character, but I didn't like it. And whenever he wanted to get a point across, he would always raise his voice at the end of a sentence. Consistent? Perhaps. Annoying? Always.

I'm gonna miss watching this show.



Right, you, me, outside NOW !


Form an orderly queue behind me - sumintelligentguy has just called down the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing! Toby Ziegler was, is, and likely will remain (for me at least) the greatest character ever to grace the goggle box. If Jed was the brains of the administration, the Tobester was its conscience. Was he sad? Yeah, a lot of the time, mainly because he hated to see his principles being compromised for politics. Was he always sad? 4 words - "babies come with hats" You say annoying, I say passionate.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 6:54:32 PM   
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I suppose those 4 words could equally have been "Ginger, get the popcorn!"

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 23/8/2012 7:05:55 PM   
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quote:

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Form an orderly queue behind me - sumintelligentguy has just called down the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing! Toby Ziegler was, is, and likely will remain (for me at least) the greatest character ever to grace the goggle box. If Jed was the brains of the administration, the Tobester was its conscience. Was he sad? Yeah, a lot of the time, mainly because he hated to see his principles being compromised for politics. Was he always sad? 4 words - "babies come with hats" You say annoying, I say passionate.


^ This.

Sumintelligentguy not living up to his username here

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 25/8/2012 11:22:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sharkboy

Form an orderly queue behind me - sumintelligentguy has just called down the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing!


I must admit I about shit when I saw that

quote:

Toby Ziegler was, is, and likely will remain (for me at least) the greatest character ever to grace the goggle box.


I'd have to agree 100% there Sharky.

quote:


Was he sad? Yeah, a lot of the time, mainly because he hated to see his principles being compromised for politics. Was he always sad? 4 words - "babies come with hats" You say annoying, I say passionate.


I think that is why I loved Toby. He had a heart.
Whether it was Leo, Josh, Bartlett or even at times, CJ, ignoring their morals to govern and stay in politics, Toby, for me, does what he does to make a difference. Josh on the other hand didn't care. It was all politics for him. All about winning the second term. All about beating his opponents, whether they were right or wrong. Toby however was prepared to risk everything, including his job, for what he believed in. his sadness came from knowing he couldn't. And all that time thinking he was just a grumpy bastard, the few scenes he had with his children were just lovely. His dissapointment when Andy didn't want the house he bought for them was heartbreaking.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 29/8/2012 1:19:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shifty Bench


quote:

ORIGINAL: sharkboy
Form an orderly queue behind me - sumintelligentguy has just called down the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing! Toby Ziegler was, is, and likely will remain (for me at least) the greatest character ever to grace the goggle box. If Jed was the brains of the administration, the Tobester was its conscience. Was he sad? Yeah, a lot of the time, mainly because he hated to see his principles being compromised for politics. Was he always sad? 4 words - "babies come with hats" You say annoying, I say passionate.


^ This.

Sumintelligentguy not living up to his username here


I think using the word "worst" was perhaps wrong, "least favourite" would have been a more apt word. Don't get me wrong, Toby's conscious counteracted the relentlessness of the likes of Josh and it was brilliant to watch, I was just constantly frustrated with the way in which he portrayed his well, frustrations.

I disagree with Jed being he brains of the operation. That IMO lies with Leo.


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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 29/8/2012 9:04:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sharkboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozzled


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sumintelligentguy

SPOILERS AHOY

Finished the whole lot. Season 5 was such a slog.

Season 6 found focus with the new presidential campaign; Santos and Vinnick were both really good characters. And don't you just want Alan Alda to be part of your family? What an all round nice guy.

Season 7 was really good, as good as the early seasons. SPOILER! I was gutted to hear about John Spencer - Leo was one of my favourite characters and the way they handled his death was brilliant.

Favourite character - CJ. Probably because I want to be press secretary for some higher up one day. The press room scenes were always sharp, fast paced and exciting.
Worst - Toby. His ex wife admitting she didn't want to remarry because he was eternally sad was one of the best moments of the show - because it hit the nail on the head. I appreciate that was part of his character, but I didn't like it. And whenever he wanted to get a point across, he would always raise his voice at the end of a sentence. Consistent? Perhaps. Annoying? Always.

I'm gonna miss watching this show.



Right, you, me, outside NOW !


Form an orderly queue behind me - sumintelligentguy has just called down the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing! Toby Ziegler was, is, and likely will remain (for me at least) the greatest character ever to grace the goggle box. If Jed was the brains of the administration, the Tobester was its conscience. Was he sad? Yeah, a lot of the time, mainly because he hated to see his principles being compromised for politics. Was he always sad? 4 words - "babies come with hats" You say annoying, I say passionate.


First part in bold..........

Second part: "Leo was right" and

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 30/8/2012 12:37:05 PM   
sharkboy


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quote:

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I think using the word "worst" was perhaps wrong, "least favourite" would have been a more apt word. Don't get me wrong, Toby's conscious counteracted the relentlessness of the likes of Josh and it was brilliant to watch, I was just constantly frustrated with the way in which he portrayed his well, frustrations.

I disagree with Jed being he brains of the operation. That IMO lies with Leo.



Yeah, I'll give you the Leo point - in fact Jed himself even admitted that in "He Shall, From Time To Time":

"
quote:

BARTLET: You have a best friend?
ROGER :Yes, sir.
BARTLET :Is he smarter than you?
ROGER: Yes, sir.
BARTLET: Would you trust him with your life?
ROGER: Yes, sir.
BARTLET: That's your chief of staff.


Maybe part of the reason I didn't mind Toby's frequent frustrations was that he still had the power to surprise.  He spent one episode hunting down the source of a leak and rounded up his entire staff who were expecting heads to roll, only to tell them that "you're my guys and I'm yours"

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 30/8/2012 1:58:34 PM   
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About season 3 - basically 9/11 happened and Sorkin couldn't write the show in the same way. That is why the MS storyline was sorta (but not totally) ditched and terrorism became a thing.

I love all four seasons of the Sorkin years. I don't really like season 5, life half of season 6 and love season 7.

But compare season 1 to season 7 - they are barely the same show.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 21/9/2012 7:23:04 AM   
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They're baaaaack!

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 21/9/2012 9:46:24 AM   
sharkboy


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quote:

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About season 3 - basically 9/11 happened and Sorkin couldn't write the show in the same way. That is why the MS storyline was sorta (but not totally) ditched and terrorism became a thing.

I love all four seasons of the Sorkin years. I don't really like season 5, life half of season 6 and love season 7.

But compare season 1 to season 7 - they are barely the same show.


Very true, but as Einstein says, it's all relative.  I'd still much rather have Season 5 of WW than the best season of most other TV shows out there.  And for all that was wrong with Wells' vision for the show when he took over from Sorkin, at least it appeared that he actually listened to the criticism and tried very hard to address it.  In fact, you've got to admire how, despite the dodgy start, he managed to get the show if not back into the Sorkinsphere, at least hovering not far below it.

Season 3 was a strange beast.  It's definitely the weakest of the Sorkin years, but that's kinda like saying that little Jimmy is the least favourite of your children - you love them all anyway!   And I think the criticism levelled at Isaac and Ishmael was very unfair.  OK, so it may not have been as polished as other episodes, but it has to be seen in context.  It was hastily written following 9/11 and aired just days later, to a country still painfully raw after the tragedy.  But what made it stand out for me was it's message.  At a time when the real President was shouting about "dead or alive" and leading the anti-Islamic fervour by talking of starting crusades against Islamic countries to the appreciative applause and whistles of the nation and its media, Sorkin had the balls to stand up and say "Enough with equating Islam with terrorism".  Josh's "al-Qaeda is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity" was a brave reminder to a nation baying for blood.

Anyway, remember "The Wake Up Call", the episode when the administration was, with the help of Emmet Brown,  helping a young Belarusian democracy establish a constitution?  Apparently they've even helped real-life places embrace democracy!  http://movies.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-aaron-sorkins-west-wing-studied-burmas-010240731.html

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 21/9/2012 4:49:52 PM   
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They're baaaaack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52FLMOPSig


Awesome. That rivals the wee Back to the Future thing from a whiley ago.

Jacket twirl, ball bouncing, Apocalypse Now... fuzzy feelings.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 21/9/2012 5:00:28 PM   
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Best campaign ad ever, and what happened to Josh - looks so much older, was it really that long ago?

"It's an apocalypse now?"

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 21/9/2012 11:42:33 PM   
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he looks a lot fatter too.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 22/9/2012 1:46:02 AM   
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It's an apocalypse now?!

Brilliant.


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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 2/11/2012 8:02:03 AM   
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Right, finished TWW last night. It has taken 3 months to re-watch the entire 7 series - for the third time. Yes, the third time.
Me and the missus decided we won't watch it all again now until about 2015.

After watching it again, particularly the last 3 or 4 epsodes, it really did seem to be setting itself up for a Series 8. Anyone know if this was intended to carry on? It was the perfect place to end it really, but with Santos setting all his staff chosen, getting themselves sinto place with big issues to sort out, it did kind of feel like it had legs (plus I wanted to see more of Vinick - clearly the stand out character in Season 7)
Still love that last shot though on the last episode. It starts with Bartlett watching the sun rise, then ends with it setting, and he replies "tomorrow" when asked by his wife what he's thinking about.
Top stuff. Even for the third time.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 2/11/2012 12:29:20 PM   
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Good question jonson, I wondered the same thing when I watched season 7 for the first time last year. I would quite happily have tuned in for season 8, but I know the ratings tumbled a lot.

I would assume they went in to the season writing it for both eventualities (continuing or being cancelled), but then later in the season the Network will have canned it with enough time for them to conclude it fittingly.

I also want to know which head writer chose the voting outcome.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 2/11/2012 1:19:48 PM   
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I heard a rumour that Santos was going to lose the election, but after John Spencer died they changed their minds. No idea how true that is though.

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RE: The West Wing Appreciation Thread - 3/3/2013 4:02:39 PM   
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Anyone see this, clicky?

Anyway, it's kinda funny to hear how some people perceive this show.

Sorkin's writing sucks.
The dialogue is awful.
All the characters are the same, they are Sorkin's puppets.
The show is so smug, etc, etc.

< Message edited by Erlenmeyer Flask -- 3/3/2013 4:03:20 PM >


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