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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 28/1/2010 3:20:13 PM   
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I think you're confusing Mass Effect with World of Warcraft. There be no Elves in Mass Effect!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 28/1/2010 4:06:43 PM   
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Seeing as I wouldn't touch World of Warcraft with a ten foot Morning Star (+ 2) I highly doubt it.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 29/1/2010 5:18:41 PM   
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Played it for almost 3 hours and boy does it feel good to be back. I started a new save file with the default Shepherd male and chose an Engineer class so I could send out a drone to help me in battle. Used it a few times and it works real well. I forgot how confusing the battle system is at first though. It took me a while to get reaquainted with it, so I'd imagine it'd be very tricky indeed for complete n00bs. There's three very useful videos that you can access from the options menu (you also get an Achievey for watching all three). Looking forward to playing it all night while my girlfriend is in work.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 29/1/2010 10:29:10 PM   
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I'm 6 hours into this gem of a game and its just getting better and better.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 30/1/2010 10:07:17 AM   
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Played it for about 8 hours yesterday and it is fantastic. A load of changes from the first one, but mostly for the better. Equipment options are quite different, and at first I didn't like the change but now I've got used to it I think it's better for it. Cinematically it's breathtaking, and the combat is far more involved (and more challenging IMO) which is great. Loading times aren't as irritating either (no standing around in a lift for ages). Well impressed.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 30/1/2010 12:10:41 PM   
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I'm 10 hours in now and absolutely loving it. I am however regretting picking an Engineer class as my guns are shit. I can use two pistols and a grenade launcher and neither is really all that. My upgraded Predator pistol packs a punch but I want a machine gun and/or sniper rifle as well. I can do Overload and Incinerate which are useful against Shields and Armour and my Drone is useful but it's more of a distraction than an offensive weapon. I just don't feel powerful at all. I am only at level 8 though so maybe I'll be able to unlock new weapons as I progress. Here's hoping.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 30/1/2010 1:13:04 PM   
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6 hours in. Its such a leaner and tighter gamer! Seems to be no fat anywhere. Combat is noticeably more punchy, Im playing as a vanguard and loving the charge attack!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 31/1/2010 8:42:01 AM   
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Scanning planets in this is the utter opposite of fun. It is in fact extraordinarily dull. Liking the game a lot, but fuck scanning. It's not big and clever.

Still, the game has made me chuckle, particularly the shop endorsements on Citadel, if you know what I mean.


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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 31/1/2010 10:25:10 AM   
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I love scanning !

I'm a vanguard too, so much fun charging someone - but you have to use it wisely otherwise you can find yourself in the middle of the crossfire. The planets are much more interesting this time round, not just carbon copies you have to explore in the lunar lander in the first game.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 31/1/2010 8:46:14 PM   
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I've almost got Miranda into bed the sexy slut. She just told me she loves me but she needs a bit more time. Cock tease. By the by, is there anyone else in ME2 that you can potentially bone? I remember juggling two birds in the first game and ended up doing Ashley. My secretary did mention that Zack likes a bit of sex but I've yet her to get her loyal. Plus she's kinda scary!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 1/2/2010 8:38:13 AM   
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You can certainly flirt with the girl on the Normandy who usually stands to the right of your personal computer terminal and the map... I can't remember her name of the top of my head, and I've not played it long enough to have actually had the chance to introduce her to Little Captain Shepard so I don't know whether she puts out....

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 1/2/2010 5:43:24 PM   
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It's Yeoman Kelly Chambers. 

Not having played the first one a few things in this one are lost on me, but overall it's been great stuff so far. Could probably do without the somewhat tedious scanning of planets for resources bit that's been mentioned, mind.



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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 1/2/2010 6:43:01 PM   
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Is it just my 360 or does accessing Load screen from the ingame menu take ages to load?  It's PS3 Bayonetta bad () wheras in the orignal it was instant. 

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 1/2/2010 8:03:41 PM   
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In the journal screen you have a list of missions and assignments. Is there a way of making one of them your 'active quest'? If not, when you click the left or right thumbstick, to display your current objective, how does it know what your current objective is?

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 1/2/2010 10:59:17 PM   
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I ordered Mass Effect 2 from Play.com with the new Terminus Armour and Heavy Gravity Gun. But theres just one problem, I'm not on XBox Live so will I not be able to use these new gadgets?

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 1:21:03 AM   
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Completed.

Epic finale.

And I had it off with Miranda (obviously)

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 2:09:48 AM   
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I ordered Mass Effect 2 from Play.com with the new Terminus Armour and Heavy Gravity Gun. But theres just one problem, I'm not on XBox Live so will I not be able to use these new gadgets?


You need XBOX Live but you don't need Gold, you can use the free silver membership.


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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 12:06:43 PM   
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Started playing this last night. Didn't play the first, so i'm a 'n00b'. Liking it so far. 

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 9:04:04 PM   
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It's not all that. Go here, hide behind cover, shoot some people. WRPGs are now pretty dull, Official. Did like the Cain/Nuke Robocop 2 thing, mind.

It isn't the best thing since sliced bread. It's good, just not that good. I'm having a sandwich.


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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 10:48:04 PM   
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I've almost got Miranda into bed the sexy slut. She just told me she loves me but she needs a bit more time. Cock tease. By the by, is there anyone else in ME2 that you can potentially bone? I remember juggling two birds in the first game and ended up doing Ashley. My secretary did mention that Zack likes a bit of sex but I've yet her to get her loyal. Plus she's kinda scary!


You mean Jack. Yeah you can do the do with Jack, Miranda and Tali (not sure to what extent though). Apparently you can get Samara as well if you trigger the correct responses. I went for Miranda, I liked her accent .

Anyway just finished it and I loved it. As good a gaming experience as is possible IMO. Not too keen on the mining sequences but Mordin's sex tips and singing more than made up for it . Brilliant storytelling allied with an astounding level of immersion and a solid shooter mechanic more than made this live up to the hype. And then some.

Slight spoilers coming up.

Do you have to have everyone loyal to you for them to survive the battle at the end? Everyone was loyal to me apart from Zaeed and he bought the farm. Only used him once, for his mission, anyway but I missed out on the cheev cos of him the dick.

Slight spoiler end.

Just started my Renegade run through. Looking forward .

3 of my top 5 games of this generation of console are from Bioware now. I'd say 5 of my top 10 of all time would be Bioware games as well. Not sure which would be top though.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 10:52:09 PM   
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Who's Zaeed? I completed the main story without even meeting him!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 10:53:56 PM   
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Who's Zaeed? I completed the main story without even meeting him!


The merc. He's (free) DLC which makes it even more annoying that I failed to get the cheev because of a DLC character.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 10:55:39 PM   
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quote:

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Who's Zaeed? I completed the main story without even meeting him!


It's a free download, you meet him on Omega near the start. His mission was pretty cool and he's a fairy interesting guy. Great scars too. He sits in the right side of the cargo bay.

I'm just onto disk 2 (it goes back to disk 1 later?) with over 12 hours done. Just got Tali back and did Jack's past mission. Doing Renegade for the LOLs plus I dont have a ME1 paragon file ready. Pretty great so far, although the Collector plot isnt grabbing me like I want - Saren was a better adversary.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 2/2/2010 11:05:20 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

Who's Zaeed? I completed the main story without even meeting him!


It's a free download, you meet him on Omega near the start. His mission was pretty cool and he's a fairy interesting guy. Great scars too. He sits in the right side of the cargo bay.

I'm just onto disk 2 (it goes back to disk 1 later?) with over 12 hours done. Just got Tali back and did Jack's past mission. Doing Renegade for the LOLs plus I dont have a ME1 paragon file ready. Pretty great so far, although the Collector plot isnt grabbing me like I want - Saren was a better adversary.


Yeah it goes back to disc 1 just before the end.

Kinda agree about Saren being a better adversary. The last "boss" was ridiculously easy especially with the collector particle gun whereas Saren took me a good few tries. Still I think the game itself is a better experience on the whole though. There's no Mako for one thing and for another it looks infinitely better and the action is much slicker. Shame about the mining though .

Bring on Mass Effect 3 .

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 12:46:58 AM   
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Kinda agree about Saren being a better adversary. The last "boss" was ridiculously easy especially with the collector particle gun whereas Saren took me a good few tries. Still I think the game itself is a better experience on the whole though. There's no Mako for one thing and for another it looks infinitely better and the action is much slicker. Shame about the mining though .

Bring on Mass Effect 3 .


Yeah the last boss felt very Lylat wars...

ME2 was a very lean game that had none of the fat from the first game but thats also my problem with it. There was a smaller sense of scale, noticeably with the main hub planets. In the original the Citadel was huge with an upper and lower city. With this it felt more like well... A three floor shopping centre. I know nobody liked travelling in lifts but for the sake of making the game worlds bigger it would have been better.

Also if you are a completionist, as I would guess the kinds of people who play Mass Effect are, you should have no trouble saving all of your team mates, which I guess may make the ending a little anticlimatic since there is little sacrifice. That said I'm glad that they'll all return for Mass Effect 3.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 10:23:49 AM   
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Slight spoilers coming up.

Do you have to have everyone loyal to you for them to survive the battle at the end? Everyone was loyal to me apart from Zaeed and he bought the farm. Only used him once, for his mission, anyway but I missed out on the cheev cos of him the dick.

Slight spoiler end.


SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

Okay, After putting so much effort into getting the loyalty of these characters and all that, there was no way I was gonna let any of them leave the collector ship in a hearse so I ran through the final mission 3 times until I figured out what I wanted to know. At least I got everyone out alive.

First thing's first, if you don't have all the upgrades to the normandy then some people are gonna die before you even land on the collector ship. The person you send into the vents needs to be loyal AND needs to be fully tech. If you send in a hybrid character who is Tech/Biotic or Tech/Soldier then they aren't gonna make it. So Legion/Tali/Mordin I think, and if they aren't loyal to you then they are gonna bite the bullet. I used Legion. He is badass as hell.

For the second fire team, I used Garrus because he struck me as the person who would be best suited for team leading. I have no idea who else works here.

For the escort I used Grunt because it struck me that he would be the best suited person for surviving and getting shit done when working alone. He was loyal and it was fine.

For the biotic bubble I first used Miranda and she ran out of steam and let the team down getting Jack swallowed up by the swarm. (I think it was a personal thing.) But it makes more sense that she didn't make it because she isn't full biotic. So the second time I used Jack and that worked a treat.

For the final boss I took Mordin and Samara who were both loyal and there were two brief moments when I thought I was going to lose them. Apparently if they're not loyal then they won't get up again from under the rubble but they both made it out alive. Everyone else was fighting back at the door, all loyal and they all made it back to the ship.

Shep survived.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 11:59:12 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle
Slight spoilers coming up.

Do you have to have everyone loyal to you for them to survive the battle at the end? Everyone was loyal to me apart from Zaeed and he bought the farm. Only used him once, for his mission, anyway but I missed out on the cheev cos of him the dick.

Slight spoiler end.


SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

Okay, After putting so much effort into getting the loyalty of these characters and all that, there was no way I was gonna let any of them leave the collector ship in a hearse so I ran through the final mission 3 times until I figured out what I wanted to know. At least I got everyone out alive.

First thing's first, if you don't have all the upgrades to the normandy then some people are gonna die before you even land on the collector ship. The person you send into the vents needs to be loyal AND needs to be fully tech. If you send in a hybrid character who is Tech/Biotic or Tech/Soldier then they aren't gonna make it. So Legion/Tali/Mordin I think, and if they aren't loyal to you then they are gonna bite the bullet. I used Legion. He is badass as hell.

For the second fire team, I used Garrus because he struck me as the person who would be best suited for team leading. I have no idea who else works here.

For the escort I used Grunt because it struck me that he would be the best suited person for surviving and getting shit done when working alone. He was loyal and it was fine.

For the biotic bubble I first used Miranda and she ran out of steam and let the team down getting Jack swallowed up by the swarm. (I think it was a personal thing.) But it makes more sense that she didn't make it because she isn't full biotic. So the second time I used Jack and that worked a treat.

For the final boss I took Mordin and Samara who were both loyal and there were two brief moments when I thought I was going to lose them. Apparently if they're not loyal then they won't get up again from under the rubble but they both made it out alive. Everyone else was fighting back at the door, all loyal and they all made it back to the ship.

Shep survived.

SPOILERS END




*SPOILERS CONTINUE*

Thatís pretty much exactly what I did.

I had full upgrades for my ship so no bother there. I sent Legion through the vents and had no problemo there either. I took Miranda and Mordin with me (they were pretty much my team through the whole game, Mirandaís Overload and Warp combined with Mordinís Neural Shock and Incinerate were a brilliant addition to my Vanguardís abilities, making most mechs and shielded enemies, including the Harbinger, a joke) and had Garrus lead the 2nd team. Up to this point everyone was still alive.

I had Samara provide the biotic barrier, Grunt lead the escort team and Zaeed to lead the team holding the line. Everyone but Zaeed survived. Zaeed was the only one whoís loyalty I hadnít earned due to going the Paragon route on his mission by saving the civilians and punching him in the face so Iím guessing that if Iíd gotten his loyalty he would have survived. Oh well, hopefully Iíll get it 2nd time around.


*SPOILERS END*


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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 12:57:25 PM   
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I seem to have an issue with seeing my two squad members.

I can direct them to some cover, then they seem to dissapear.  I can hear them etc.. if I spin the camera around 360 they then appear where I pointed them.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 2:37:18 PM   
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***SPOILERS***




I managed to get everybody out alive at the end which suprised me.

I took hot Miranda and Grunt with me, gave Garrus command of the second strike team because he's got experience with leading a squad and he's a baddass. Obviously. I sent that dirty Legion bastard down into the vent, I was secretly hoping he'd die. I don't trust machines (I've watched The Terminator a few times...) but the old boy pulled through for me.

I used Garrus to lead the second team again, and kept hot Miranda and Grunt with me. I didn't bother with the escort, and sent them back on thier own (they didn't make it, I don't have time to babysit untrained crew members). I used Samara for the Biotic bubble because she's clearly the most powerful Biotic. I wanted to use Jack but I didn't want to risk her dying because she's awesome and is a machine in combat.

Just kept hot Miranda and Grunt for the Final boss, defeated it and got everyone out alive (apart from the crew...). Got back to the Normandy and ended up getting it on with Tali (weird) because I went wrong with Miranda somewhere and everytime I go near Jack she tells me to "Fuck Off"

It's frakkin epic is this game, I love it!



***END SPOILERS***

I just quickly went back to Mass Effect 1 and saved the council (shit, is that a spoiler?) for my Paragon playthrough. I wanna see what effect it has on ME2.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 3/2/2010 7:22:06 PM   
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MORE SPOILERS (ONE MAJOR) COMING UP

Having a quick look round the net and it seems that at the end a hell of a lot of people had Garrus in charge of the 2nd fire team, Grunt take charge of the extraction, Legion for the pipes and Samara for the Biotic Barrier. Not much of an observation but it just shows the impact good characterisation can have on an audience to the extent that a lot of people come to the same conclusion about the capabilities of a character.

Did anyone choose to help Samara's daughter instead of Samara herself by any chance? I didn't but I may on my Renegade playthrough. Just wanted to know if it makes any difference. Do you actually kill Samara or does she kill her daughter anyway and you just fail to gain her loyalty.

Oh and one last thing, did anyone else feel a tad sorry for the leader of the Collectors right at the death when the Harbinger relinquished control before they were blasted? The way he moved his head as if to say WTF is going on as the fire rushes up the corridor towards him made him look pretty pitiful. As if the Protheans hadn't suffered enough already. Man those Reapers have got it coming and I cannot wait for the 3rd one so that I can give it to them (ooh missus).

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