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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 26/6/2012 10:56:32 PM   
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I thought the clarification of the existing endings was pretty lame imo. Still lots of plot holes (Shepherd's breath scene, the mass relays, implication of immortality). The slide show seemed very cheap. I honestly can't see how people would choose the control or synthesis endings after playing the ME, so clarification on those endings was moot for me.

I will say that the refuse ending was a nice touch. Telling the star-child to go fuck himself felt good, though condemning the whole galaxy is a bit extreme. Given how we had taken down Reapers conventionally I thought we had a shot at beating them without the Catalyst/Crucible.


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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 26/6/2012 11:58:47 PM   
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I thought the clarification of the existing endings was pretty lame imo. Still lots of plot holes (Shepherd's breath scene, the mass relays, implication of immortality). The slide show seemed very cheap. I honestly can't see how people would choose the control or synthesis endings after playing the ME, so clarification on those endings was moot for me.

I will say that the refuse ending was a nice touch. Telling the star-child to go fuck himself felt good, though condemning the whole galaxy is a bit extreme. Given how we had taken down Reapers conventionally I thought we had a shot at beating them without the Catalyst/Crucible.



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Well that's that ...

The whole indoctrination theory is gone out of the window. Plot holes? Sure your not given complete closure on a few thing's but this did serve to close many gaps in peoples minds. Shepherds alive ... probably beamed back down to Earth and under some rubble. Mass relays they said were damaged but could be fixed ... implication of immortality? Not sure who you mean there? Shepherd? Didn't mind the slide show ... some nice artwork there. End of the day it's sad that this wasn't done fully in the first place. For whatever reasons. You can't doubt that Bioware have worked damn hard on this and I loved the game but it's a shame that the ending will be tainted. I've said it before but I fully expected the ending we got in terms of the outcome. This was closer to adding more closure but if we could have had a few more scenes actually playing etc Ahhh well ...

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 27/6/2012 12:40:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SWOTBM

SPOILERS FOR THE EXTENDED CUT:



I thought the clarification of the existing endings was pretty lame imo. Still lots of plot holes (Shepherd's breath scene, the mass relays, implication of immortality). The slide show seemed very cheap. I honestly can't see how people would choose the control or synthesis endings after playing the ME, so clarification on those endings was moot for me.

I will say that the refuse ending was a nice touch. Telling the star-child to go fuck himself felt good, though condemning the whole galaxy is a bit extreme. Given how we had taken down Reapers conventionally I thought we had a shot at beating them without the Catalyst/Crucible.



SPOILERS

Well that's that ...

The whole indoctrination theory is gone out of the window. Plot holes? Sure your not given complete closure on a few thing's but this did serve to close many gaps in peoples minds. Shepherds alive ... probably beamed back down to Earth and under some rubble. Mass relays they said were damaged but could be fixed ... implication of immortality? Not sure who you mean there? Shepherd? Didn't mind the slide show ... some nice artwork there. End of the day it's sad that this wasn't done fully in the first place. For whatever reasons. You can't doubt that Bioware have worked damn hard on this and I loved the game but it's a shame that the ending will be tainted. I've said it before but I fully expected the ending we got in terms of the outcome. This was closer to adding more closure but if we could have had a few more scenes actually playing etc Ahhh well ...


They should have run with the indoctrination theory, but I think their pride got in the way. Interestingly, some people take the change of voice in the refusal ending to mean that IT is still possible The implication of immortality was specifically aimed at the synthesis ending- EDI's speech suggests that they are (or are going to be) immortal. There are 3 explanations endings (synthesis, destroy, control) and 1 new ending (refusal)- all are on Youtube if you can't face playing the game again.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 28/6/2012 12:29:29 PM   
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So this download for the new ending...do you have to play the whole bloody thing again then?

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 28/6/2012 1:11:44 PM   
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So this download for the new ending...do you have to play the whole bloody thing again then?


No, to watch the bits that are added you have to start from the assault on the Cerberus HQ. Or you can just watch them on Youtube

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 28/6/2012 1:20:30 PM   
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So this download for the new ending...do you have to play the whole bloody thing again then?


No, to watch the bits that are added you have to start from the assault on the Cerberus HQ. Or you can just watch them on Youtube

Cheers...don't think I've got the energy to go through any of it again at the moment!

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 2/7/2012 12:58:50 AM   
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So this download for the new ending...do you have to play the whole bloody thing again then?


No, to watch the bits that are added you have to start from the assault on the Cerberus HQ. Or you can just watch them on Youtube


No you should have a save from ENDING SPOILERS - The assault on Earth to replay but once you load it will be just after you get hit by the Reaper blast. You should be able to play from there. The endings about 45 mins. Worth your time.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 10/7/2012 10:32:52 AM   
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Completed it last night with my Fem Shep Paragon.  I chose the Control the Reapers ending. 
Normal Ending as I wanted to see what all the crying was about.

Personally I didn't think it was that bad.  Certainly not as bad as the fanboy weeping has made it out to be. 
I still stick to the idea that the whole outcry is entitled moaning, but yeah there are problems with it;

[SPOILERS]

What the fuck is Joker doing?  How did Garrus get from the Battlefield back to the Normandy?!
But also, who the fuck is this Catalyst to say that organics and Synthetics will always war?  And that the "best " solution is to choose to synthesis together.  No I can't.  I'm the Shepherd who wouldn't reprogram the Geth Heretics, rather let then die fighting for what they believed in.  I'm not gonna reprogram the whole universe, now am I.
 
But broadly, it played out how I pretty much expected.  I knew that whatever solution was, it would mean using the Mass Relays and that I would die and not get to see what happened after,  I honestly thought the game was going to end with me stepping into some sort of sacrifice machine and a white-out.  
 

Biggest dissapointment though was lack of non-humanoid involvement.
The Rachni thing is a massive let down and where were all the Elcor and Hannar?  Was really hoping to see them in action, especially after I the mission for the Elcor Ambassador.

Really I wanted Non-Human Squad Mates, but not to even glimpse them in action, is a bit upsetting.
Highlight of the whole thing is when Legion turns out to be Robot Jesus.

[/SPOILERS]


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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 10/7/2012 2:35:26 PM   
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Completed it last night with my Fem Shep Paragon.  I chose the Control the Reapers ending. 
Normal Ending as I wanted to see what all the crying was about.

Personally I didn't think it was that bad.  Certainly not as bad as the fanboy weeping has made it out to be. 
I still stick to the idea that the whole outcry is entitled moaning, but yeah there are problems with it;

[SPOILERS]

What the fuck is Joker doing?  How did Garrus get from the Battlefield back to the Normandy?!
But also, who the fuck is this Catalyst to say that organics and Synthetics will always war?  And that the "best " solution is to choose to synthesis together.  No I can't.  I'm the Shepherd who wouldn't reprogram the Geth Heretics, rather let then die fighting for what they believed in.  I'm not gonna reprogram the whole universe, now am I.
 
But broadly, it played out how I pretty much expected.  I knew that whatever solution was, it would mean using the Mass Relays and that I would die and not get to see what happened after,  I honestly thought the game was going to end with me stepping into some sort of sacrifice machine and a white-out.  
 

Biggest dissapointment though was lack of non-humanoid involvement.
The Rachni thing is a massive let down and where were all the Elcor and Hannar?  Was really hoping to see them in action, especially after I the mission for the Elcor Ambassador.

Really I wanted Non-Human Squad Mates, but not to even glimpse them in action, is a bit upsetting.
Highlight of the whole thing is when Legion turns out to be Robot Jesus.

[/SPOILERS]




Had you downloaded the revised ending? Or did you just watch the original?

That's the problem too even though they've revised the ending there's no guaranteeing people will download it OR watch it before the original either.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 10/7/2012 3:06:19 PM   
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Just the regular ending.  As I wanted to see what all the fuss was.

Have since downloaded the extended ending, for next time.

However, if it wasn't for the internet and being a fan of the franchise, I wouldn't have even known about it, as it hasn't been flagged up by the title screen or the Xbox dashboard.  So you're right a lot of people may totally miss it.

Actually just realised something else I was a bit dissapointed with
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No face to face payback for Harbinger.  At the end you get a radio message saying he has pulled away from the battle to come get the Crucible, but then that's it.  After The Illusive Man capped himself, I was really expecting him to say "assuming direct control" and get back up again.
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However, overall it's an awesome series.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 10/7/2012 8:10:30 PM   
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MASSIVE SPOILERS TO MASS EFFECT 3 EXTENDED CUT.....


Finished my second playthrough on this using Femshep and utilising the extended ending.I found it a lot more satisfying than when i finished it the first time as now i had SOME idea of what was going on and what the choices meant.I went for the '' control '' ending as i thought it was the best possible option.I could have destroyed all synthetics but that meant the war would being again eventually and it also meant killing EDI and i like her.Synthesis seemed out of the question for me as well.

I chose control because i would end the war by controlling the reapers.The extended ending i thought was very touching as the crew made a memorial to Shep and i would be watching over them.It also showed that i would help rebuild the mass relays using the reapers.Hey i get to be a GOD! Thats not a bad way to end up right?

Overall a fantastic game and kudos to Bioware giving us better closure than what we got before.Sure they could have done it better originally but it showed that they do listen to fans and learn from their mistakes.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 11/7/2012 12:41:16 PM   
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Did the Extended Cut last night, still comes down to space magic and makes zero sense but it's slightly better. I had to do it twice though......*****SPOILERS BELOW******



First time around I shot the little bastard, he went mental and killed everything. It ends with a beacon on a planet (might be Eden Prime) transmitting Liaras message about the war with the reapers and the crucible warning future races of the danger. The Stargazer after the credits is changed to an Asari aswell...

2nd go I went with my original destroy choice, all synthetic life died (sorry EDI!), the relays kinda broke (no explosion this time), Lance Henriksen explains shit over some comic panels (Jacob goes on to be a teacher! Closure!) and then I got the memorial on the Normandy which then cuts the the remains of the citadel with Shepard laying in the rubble alive.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 7/8/2012 5:39:34 PM   
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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 7/8/2012 5:42:49 PM   
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Yeah, I only had one problem and that was right at the end. The smoother combat makes it easier, I can't get past Eden Prime on Hardcore in ME1.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 7/8/2012 5:45:38 PM   
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Should have this tomorrow from Love film, will I still get the extended stuff?

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 7/8/2012 5:54:49 PM   
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Nah, I should think you'll have to download it.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 7/8/2012 6:35:53 PM   
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Yeah just get it in advance

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 8/8/2012 12:19:56 AM   
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Just finished my third playthrough of the first game the other day and about to start my second playthrough of ME2 (I wish the DLC was a bit cheaper on that though as I wanna play all of it); after which I can't wait to get my hands on ME3 and actually want to see the so-called 'bad ending' just because its so controversial. I really hope it isn't all balloons and whistles in the remade ending however as I'd prefer an unusual ending to schmultz.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 8/8/2012 5:51:25 PM   
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Yeah, I only had one problem and that was right at the end. The smoother combat makes it easier, I can't get past Eden Prime on Hardcore in ME1.


I know what you mean!

Just got ME3 through the post today so can't wait to get home from work. Where do you download the extended ending, Xbox Marketplace?

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 8/8/2012 5:54:35 PM   
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Yeah, its on the marketplace along with a couple of free multiplayer DLC packs.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 8/8/2012 7:06:45 PM   
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Yeah, I only had one problem and that was right at the end. The smoother combat makes it easier, I can't get past Eden Prime on Hardcore in ME1.


I know what you mean!


Just got ME3 through the post today so can't wait to get home from work. Where do you download the extended ending, Xbox Marketplace?



Its not hard if you use cover a lot and have Immunity if your a soldier, the only difficulty I had was the Krogan's later on Hardcore and Insanity who were a nightmare till I used lift and throw to knock them off ledges.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 9/8/2012 10:35:04 AM   
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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 9/8/2012 4:38:13 PM   
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Yeah, I only had one problem and that was right at the end. The smoother combat makes it easier, I can't get past Eden Prime on Hardcore in ME1.


I know what you mean!


Just got ME3 through the post today so can't wait to get home from work. Where do you download the extended ending, Xbox Marketplace?



Its not hard if you use cover a lot and have Immunity if your a soldier, the only difficulty I had was the Krogan's later on Hardcore and Insanity who were a nightmare till I used lift and throw to knock them off ledges.


I will keep this in mind.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 10/8/2012 12:26:50 AM   
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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 14/8/2012 6:37:50 PM   
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finished it today....seemed to have killed everyone except Joker and EDI.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 15/8/2012 12:28:58 AM   
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That is not the extended cut surely, just the unedited "jungle landing" endning without the full epilogue.

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 15/8/2012 5:44:46 PM   
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finished it today....seemed to have killed everyone except Joker and EDI.


Lol you psycho

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 15/8/2012 7:40:48 PM   
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finished it today....seemed to have killed everyone except Joker and EDI.


Lol you psycho


I didnt mean to!

I reckon, like rich said, I completed it with the original ending, which now can understand why folks hated it. Not much in the sense of closure for a lot of the characters. I'll need to get my Xbox live hooked up so i can download the extended ending and see if its any better. I'm not sure how I feel about it to be honest. It wasnt as bad as a lot of people made out, and I reckon it had to end the way it did. Just felt a bit ho hum. I preferred ME2 I think


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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 16/8/2012 10:47:19 PM   
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finished it today....seemed to have killed everyone except Joker and EDI.


Lol you psycho


I didnt mean to!

I reckon, like rich said, I completed it with the original ending, which now can understand why folks hated it. Not much in the sense of closure for a lot of the characters. I'll need to get my Xbox live hooked up so i can download the extended ending and see if its any better. I'm not sure how I feel about it to be honest. It wasnt as bad as a lot of people made out, and I reckon it had to end the way it did. Just felt a bit ho hum. I preferred ME2 I think



Ignoring most of what you are saying there mate as I haven't played ME3 yet!!

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RE: Mass Effect 3 - 21/8/2012 7:20:42 PM   
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