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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 6:39:27 PM   
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Another trailer and more info HERE

Surely I can't be the only person on this forum that's excited about this game?


My enthusiasm has been crushed by the apparent lack of the original crew. 


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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 6:44:26 PM   
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My enthusiasm has been crushed by the apparent lack of the original crew. 


What?!?! I spent hours sweet talking that bird in order to bang her. Are you telling me that it was all for nothing?

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 7:22:57 PM   
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My enthusiasm has been crushed by the apparent lack of the original crew. 


What?!?! I spent hours sweet talking that bird in order to bang her. Are you telling me that it was all for nothing?




Umm, no. You got to bang her .

From what I gather most of the (surviving) original crew are in it, they're just not a part of your crew anymore.

Rumour has it (possibly spoilerific) you'll have Tali, Liara and either Ashley or Kaidan (depending on, well you know...) as part of your crew at some point in the sequel. I can't remember where i read that but I do know it was ages ago so who knows if that is still the case.

As far as I'm concerned I'd rather a new set of crew mates. I got to know all the characters in the first game so I'd prefer to have a new lot this time around.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 7:56:00 PM   
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To me it's the equivilant of making The Empire Strikes Back without Han Solo, Leia, Chewbacca and the droids.

Or Kirk recruiting a completely new crew in The Motion Picture to save Earth.

The characters in Mass Effect was a huge part of the game's enjoyment for me.

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As far as I'm concerned I'd rather a new set of crew mates. I got to know all the characters in the first game so I'd prefer to have a new lot this time around.


I'd rather they deepen the characters and their relationships than introduce a new crew, who from what I've seen so far are completely unappealing. This is suppose to be a role-playing game. Well I certainly wouldn't recruit any of these new characters over any of the original crew.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 8:04:47 PM   
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To me it's the equivilant of making The Empire Strikes Back without Han Solo, Leia, Chewbacca and the droids.

Or Kirk recruiting a completely new crew in The Motion Picture to save Earth.

The characters in Mass Effect was a huge part of the game's enjoyment for me.

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As far as I'm concerned I'd rather a new set of crew mates. I got to know all the characters in the first game so I'd prefer to have a new lot this time around.


I'd rather they deepen the characters and their relationships than introduce a new crew, who from what I've seen so far are completely unappealing. This is suppose to be a role-playing game. Well I certainly wouldn't recruit any of these new characters over any of the original crew.


Every single original crew member has been confirmed for a return in ME2 though, is it really inconceivable that they would have moved on? I'm assuming Garrus has moved on to become a Spectre, Tali back to her fleet, Wrex back to being a Merc etc. If they weren't in the game at all I'd share your concerns but they are, so I don't

And how do you know the new crew members won't rock?

This is the only game I give a flying fuck about that's coming out in the next 6 months now that Forza 3 has been released so I'm staying positive

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 8:20:36 PM   
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Every single original crew member has been confirmed for a return in ME2 though, is it really inconceivable that they would have moved on? I'm assuming Garrus has moved on to become a Spectre, Tali back to her fleet, Wrex back to being a Merc etc. If they weren't in the game at all I'd share your concerns but they are, so I don't


Tali is a squad member so that's one positive.

Only Garrus and Wrex have been confirmed but in what capacity no one knows.

Liara, Ashley and Kaidan have not been mentioned by Bioware.

And again this is a hugely important mission Shepard is on. Like Kirk in The Motion Picture if (s)he is going to recruit a crew why not recruit the one (s)he trusts instead of completely unknown entities? That's what my character would do. In fact my character would not let them leave the ship in the first place.

The end of Mass Effect pointed towards a direct sequel picking up where it left off. I don't like the fact that it's two years later and I had no control over what Shepard was doing in those years. This is suppose to be an RPG afterall.

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And how do you know the new crew members won't rock?


I have seen the Subject Zero video.

Mass Effect is unquestionably one of my favourite games of all time and I have been wanting the sequel ever since, but the marketing for ME2 has done pretty much everything it could to lower my anticipation of the game. I really, really hope my negativity is misplaced.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 8:32:09 PM   
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Every single original crew member has been confirmed for a return in ME2 though, is it really inconceivable that they would have moved on? I'm assuming Garrus has moved on to become a Spectre, Tali back to her fleet, Wrex back to being a Merc etc. If they weren't in the game at all I'd share your concerns but they are, so I don't


Tali is a squad member so that's one positive.

Only Garrus and Wrex have been confirmed but in what capacity no one knows.

Liara, Ashley and Kaidan have not been mentioned by Bioware.

And again this is a hugely important mission Shepard is on. Like Kirk in The Motion Picture if (s)he is going to recruit a crew why not recruit the one (s)he trusts instead of completely unknown entities? That's what my character would do. In fact my character would not let them leave the ship in the first place.

The end of Mass Effect pointed towards a direct sequel picking up where it left off. I don't like the fact that it's two years later and I had no control over what Shepard was doing in those years. This is suppose to be an RPG afterall.

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And how do you know the new crew members won't rock?


I have seen the Subject Zero video.

Mass Effect is unquestionably one of my favourite games of all time and I have been wanting the sequel ever since, but the marketing for ME2 has done pretty much everything it could to lower my anticipation of the game. I really, really hope my negativity is misplaced.


I understand your concerns (especially the 2 years later bit, that is a bummer) but it's Bioware man, BIOWARE! They're not in the habit of fucking up their own IP's.

From the article I linked to above.

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Subject Zero and Grunt are the ones that people have thought are very two-dimensional. But, they're actually the favorite characters so far, them and a character that is going to be discussed pretty soon. And it's because you learn something like Grunt is this young, kind of crazy almost child-like huge tank guy. But then when you learn what's behind them, then there's so much more of interest. Subject Zero is this tough girl which seems cliché, but when she opens up a little bit of vulnerability it just pulls on your heartstrings and you just go, "Oh she seems so much more real than I expected her to be." And then it totally changes everything because you start to think that you know people like that, you know how she feels. And now you're interacting with these characters as real people.

That's the difference. I think people are really attached to characters like Wrex from the first game because of those things. But once you start unlocking those things about these new characters, they all have their own back story and actually that's one of the biggest part of Mass Effect 2 in terms of characters. Since loyalty figures into the story so much, the fact that you have to learn about them and then do something to earn their loyalty -- it's in those missions that you get to learn about who they really are and you get to bond with these characters even more than those in the first game.


Have faith. It is going to rock...

Oh and with regards to the crew member point according to Wiki (yeah I know) every member of your crew that survived your ME playthrough will be involved in the sequel in some capacity. I know it's only Wiki but that does match with what I read (somewhere, think it was in 360 Gamer or some such magazine) a few months back.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 10:24:53 PM   
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My enthusiasm has been crushed by the apparent lack of the original crew. 


What?!?! I spent hours sweet talking that bird in order to bang her. Are you telling me that it was all for nothing?


Umm, no. You got to bang her .


Yes, but I spent all that time buying the cow and all I got was one glass of milk. After all that effort I'd expect milk on tap. Now I'm going to have to go out and buy another cow to fuck.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 6/11/2009 10:34:36 PM   
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Unconfirmed but I've heard that if you did make the devil with two backs with Liara T'Soni a young sproglet might be in the story. This would follow what was established in the first game where the she tells you the female fucks off and brings up kids on their own.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 18/11/2009 4:13:00 PM   
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Box art released



Not sure if I like it to be honest. Looks a bit odd.

Then again it doesn't make any difference to the quality of the finished product.


Looks like they've changed the box art which is probably the most pointless bit of gaming news I've read this millenium. Yet I've still decided to share it with y'all .



Dunno which looks worst of the 2 to be honest.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 18/11/2009 4:51:57 PM   
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Seeing as the first one is merely "alright" and the new one can be best described as regurgitated vomit, I'm guessing it's the former.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 19/11/2009 10:07:23 AM   
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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 19/11/2009 10:26:41 AM   
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Those are two of the worstest sleeves I've ever seen. It's like they just learned how to use photoshop. Still can't wait for the game though!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 19/11/2009 10:33:29 AM   
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Mass Effect was one of my first 360 titles when I got the console at the start of the year.  But with the inevitable rush to amass titles for my new console, I never really played the game enough to get immersed in it.  It seemed enjoyable, but just didn't grip me the way some of my other new titles did.

Now, however, Dragon Age has rekindled my love for all things Bioware and I'll definitely be adding Mass Effect 2 to my must-have list (where I can also show off my nice Blood Dragon armour from DA).  So, what I'm really asking is should I hold off playing ME2 until I've had the chance to run through the first one a couple of times?  Or is it so stand-alone now that the original characters are gone that it can be played without dedicating 40 hours (or however long it lasts) to building up a rapport with the people and worlds of the game?

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 19/11/2009 10:45:21 AM   
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I know next to nothing about the sequel but I'd advise revisiting the first before the sequel. Not only to brush up on the story and characters but also because it's a fucking great game.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 19/11/2009 2:48:34 PM   
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Mass Effect was one of my first 360 titles when I got the console at the start of the year.  But with the inevitable rush to amass titles for my new console, I never really played the game enough to get immersed in it.  It seemed enjoyable, but just didn't grip me the way some of my other new titles did.

Now, however, Dragon Age has rekindled my love for all things Bioware and I'll definitely be adding Mass Effect 2 to my must-have list (where I can also show off my nice Blood Dragon armour from DA).  So, what I'm really asking is should I hold off playing ME2 until I've had the chance to run through the first one a couple of times?  Or is it so stand-alone now that the original characters are gone that it can be played without dedicating 40 hours (or however long it lasts) to building up a rapport with the people and worlds of the game?



I'd play through the first game. You can carry over your completed saved game into the sequel. Your decisions in the first game will (apparently) be carried over into the subsequent sequels. I'm excited to see how this works myself.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 30/11/2009 3:55:11 PM   
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I'm debating whether to pre-order this on Amazon (I think its about £37 or £38 at the mo). Its out in a couple of months, didn't realise it comes out so soon!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 4/12/2009 2:24:25 PM   
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So, Mass Effect 2 is going to consist of 2 discs for both 360 and PC --> http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-3966-Mass-Effect-2-Will-Feature-Multiple-Game-Discs.html

Why?  "Because you cannot fit this much awesome on one disc".  

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 2:23:53 PM   
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Fucking awesome new trailer at IGN:

http://uk.ign.com/

Martin Sheen!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 6:50:54 PM   
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Fucking awesome new trailer at IGN:

http://uk.ign.com/

Martin Sheen!


That. Was. Awesome.

Roll on the full trailer come 22nd December and then roll on 29th January.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 7:38:58 PM   
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This game will be so awesome it will make Dragon Age look like Dragon Gay-ge!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:01:51 PM   
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This game will be so awesome it will make Dragon Age look like Dragon Gay-ge!




It'll make Star Trek look like a Car Wreck

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:03:20 PM   
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It will make Modern Warfare look like Modern Warfairy!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:04:59 PM   
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It'll make Fable 2 look like Unable to.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:06:05 PM   
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And the original Mass Effect like Ass Effect

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:10:45 PM   
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I was going to use 'ass' for Assassin's Creed Poo!

Erm it'll make Batman look like Fatman.

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:41:06 PM   
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It'll make Bioshock look like Biocock!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:42:56 PM   
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It'll make Gears of War look like Queers of War!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:45:57 PM   
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It'll make Alan Wake look like Alan Wank!

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RE: Mass Effect 2 aka the greatest RPG sequel ever - 14/12/2009 8:54:53 PM   
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It'll make Rock Band look like Cock Band.

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