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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 12:19:24 AM   
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Fingers crossed! I'll keep an eye out for any info on ratings.  Hopefully they'll be good enough for the BBC to give the boys a second series.  

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 12:51:24 AM   
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Theres someone on IMDB who claims to have seen the whole series and says Mark makes a cameo!

Please be true! Please be true!



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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 1:03:58 AM   
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Wanted to get back to playing a game, so will turn on at about 1:30, hopefully it'll start again then, first episode was a cracker, and some very funny moments, far better than I expected, feared it'd be like some of Series 3.

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 9:05:55 AM   
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That made me laugh so much. Already so many good characters that I need to see much more of.

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 9:28:49 AM   
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www.bigginspanto.co.uk  ??

That one?

Anyway, I fucking loved it....

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 9:51:26 AM   
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quote:

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Wanted to get back to playing a game, so will turn on at about 1:30, hopefully it'll start again then, first episode was a cracker, and some very funny moments, far better than I expected, feared it'd be like some of Series 3.


Series 3 was the best, in my opinion.

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 11:47:38 AM   
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Debatable I guess, I found it was just a tad too odd with the humour/darkness mix, felt like the jokes were going too broad for it's blackness, but Geoff's ep was indeed brilliant.

Anyway, episode 2, that went fast, brilliant stuff, absolutely hilarious.

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 3:16:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lazy wolf eyes

'come on, don't be ashamed'  



That made me laugh so much. Already so many good characters that I need to see much more of.


That was such a great line, I'm going to try and get it into conversations now.

Porntrooper: Nice spot for the biggins page, cheers for that.

Series 3 of LOG is superb, though I can see why some people don't like it.  It tends to be a bit of a marmite series. It was great though that they went for something different, even if to some fans it wasn't all that successful.

The ratings were pretty good - 1.4 million according to DS. Not a bad start by any means.


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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 3:54:15 PM   
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I'm having fun with the various sites - from the Biggins one you can get on Robert's site.  Nearly jumped out of my skin when I clicked on 'midget gems'  They've really gone to town on these sites, gives me something to do while I'm bored. 

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 4:22:41 PM   
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I'm having fun with the various sites - from the Biggins one you can get on Robert's site.  Nearly jumped out of my skin when I clicked on 'midget gems'  They've really gone to town on these sites, gives me something to do while I'm bored. 


The midget gems site is great :)

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 7:36:20 PM   
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Does anyone know if the first ep is repeated later in the week?

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 7:43:33 PM   
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I'm not sure, it'll probably get repeated at some ungodly hour... but I think it's on the iplayer. 

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 9:19:56 PM   
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With regard to the website, is there a delay on the "BlackMail" feature? I sent it to my sister-in-law and she hasn't recieved it after 20 minutes... 

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 9:34:37 PM   
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Not tried that one yet, but I signed up for the newsletter type thingy and got a confirmation straight away.  I'll give it a whizz and let you know. 

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RE: Psychoville - 19/6/2009 10:23:16 PM   
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Not tried that one yet, but I signed up for the newsletter type thingy and got a confirmation straight away.  I'll give it a whizz and let you know. 


Thanks, the preview of my vid looked cool.

Update: It worked.

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 11:08:27 AM   
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Yay! Mine did too... took a while to get there though. 

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 11:12:38 AM   
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Yay! Mine did too... took a while to get there though. 


It's really well done isn't it! My brothers going to kill me when he sees it.

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 11:14:18 AM   
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It is, usually those things look rubbish... I sent it to a really gullible mate so I can't wait to see her reaction. 

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 3:16:11 PM   
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Just watched the first two episodes and really enjoyed it. Loving Lomax at the moment and the mother and son bit in the first episode is sick and very funny! Loved the LOG so it's great to have something similar. Reece is right in that LOG is a bit forgotten, it's of the best British comedies in a while. Interesting that the director of Psychoville, Matt Lipsey, directed Little Britain! I worked with him once on an internet viral and he was a really nice bloke.

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 4:18:21 PM   
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I wonder why they didn't stick with Steve Bendelack for the director.  Matt Lipsey also directed Catterick so that's good enough for me! Yet another superb comedy that's pretty much forgotten these days. 

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 7:13:07 PM   
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I think they really wanted break away from LOG's style. With a new cast and format and everything. But I dont think Lipseys direction is that different from Bendelacks really. I think Psychoville looks like series 3 of LOG.

I never saw Catterick. Vic and Bob can be very hit and miss for me.

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 7:31:57 PM   
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Ahh right, that makes sense. You're right, it's not that different.  Not noticeably anyway.  It does look a lot like series 3, doesn't it? I think it's similar in tone as well.  

You might want to steer clear of Catterick then. I thought it was hilarious and very strange but I love pretty much anything Vic and Bob do.  Reece is in that too, playing a psycho....


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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 8:46:11 PM   
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First two eps:

Okay, but come one, aint it just a retread of the same old same old in terms of its basic m.o?

And anybody who didn't see the 'surprise' payoff for the dwarf date coming the moment the girl agreed to go on it should be shot.

The League of 'we've already seen what you have to offer and you'd better have a decent, payoff for which I cannot possibly be ready in mind or you're just sucking BBC cock to get the money to rehash the same old shite' Gentlemen.

Harsh, but I have the balls to quote myself and eat my words if I'm wrong, so there. At this point, the BBC is still reeling from the after effects of events that make them ask 'do people just think we're corporate cunts like every other corporation with a three billion year spending fund?' which for me explains why they might fall back on the same 'edgy' people as they have done for a decade or more and 'excitingly' cast James Nesbitt in their major 'hard hitting' drama of the moment.

Ie, the BBC continues to take gambles as risky as 'will the sun rise tomorrow?'

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 8:57:49 PM   
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First two eps:

Okay, but come one, aint it just a retread of the same old same old in terms of its basic m.o?

And anybody who didn't see the 'surprise' payoff for the dwarf date coming the moment the girl agreed to go on it should be shot.

The League of 'we've already seen what you have to offer and you'd better have a decent, payoff for which I cannot possibly be ready in mind or you're just sucking BBC cock to get the money to rehash the same old shite' Gentlemen.

Harsh, but I always ahve the balls to quote myself and eat my words if I'm wrong, so there.


This may come as a surprise... but I disagree.

Do you mean retread of what the league have done, or retread of other things on tv?

I don't think that was supposed to be a surprise or any kind of payoff. It's a parody of Carrie.... the point is that we all knew that it would end badly surely?

If you knew half of the trouble they've had getting stuff commissioned by the BBC you probably wouldn't suggest such a thing.  They took the film elsewhere cos of the shit they got with BBC.  Though I don't know why they went back...

It's not rehashing anything in my opinion. Of course it's going to be similar to LOG, as that's their sense of humour, and is that really a bad thing? I guess it is if you hate LOG! And I think it's great that they're doing something different.  It's nice to see something like this on tv amidst all the dull same old shitty comedy that's on at the minute.


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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 9:10:34 PM   
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I'd rather see these guys do similar stuff to LOG for the next 50 years than have to watch 99.99% of British comedy output. It might be similar but as Lazy says above is that really a bad thing? I really enjoyed the first two episodes and there is the odd similarity to LOG characters and the tone of the show but it's got a different storyline and there's enough standout humour to make it a success.

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RE: Psychoville - 20/6/2009 9:16:36 PM   
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I admit that I'll defend LOG no matter what, but I do see their trends and preferences and yes Psychoville is very much what we know Reece and Steves taste to be.

But I dont see that as predictable. I dont see it as rehashing anything. It's just how they make their shows. They write about things they like and as a viewer I response to their particular asthetic. I like the way they plot things. I love their characters. I feel they challenge the viewer (look at the effort in series 3 to link all the stories together or the website clues in the Psychoville or even the film which, even if it didnt always work, was so much more than a quick cash in).

And as Lazy pointed out, Reece and Steve had alot of problems getting this made. It took two years for the BBC to have enough faith in them to commission it. So its not like the BBC were struggling and said "Oh just get the League guys in!". Ive always felt LOG were A-list for maybe one or two years before the BBC lost interest in them. But they never went down Little Britains route (I have to stop bashing them! its not fair) and tried to force their presence on the world. They dont rely on each other to make good tv. Jeremy did Funland. Mark is a dynamo when it comes to creative output (Dr Whos, his books, Crooked House) and now Reece and Steve have their new baby.

But everyones different. I like LOG and others like My Family. The viewing public is nothing if not diverse.

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RE: Psychoville - 21/6/2009 8:26:19 AM   
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I did say I was possibly being harsh, so if Psychoville delivers an epic denouement after the drip feed of ideas that makes the enterprise 'bigger' than what's gone before and not merely reliable tried and tested schtick (no matter how far down the 'we dare you to say you find this funny'' road the boys go) on a broader canvas, I will be the first to admit I prejudged before having enough to go on.

And even if, in my opinion, that doesn't happen, my opinion is irrelevant to anybody else's enjoyment of the show, anyway.

So peace (or twisted psychological, slightly potentially hypocritical darkness, verging on pointing and laughing at the socially excluded and the mentally ill, in order to split viewer focus between laughing at the freakshow and wondering if our tendency to laugh at the weak makes us the ones to blame for people becoming mentally ill, or turning them into outsiders and potential socio/psychopaths) to all (and indeed sundry)

Or have I misunderstood LOG and PV completely?






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RE: Psychoville - 21/6/2009 3:43:57 PM   
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I kinda think you have.   And also, you seem to think that they aim to be dark when they don't at all. They're often bemused by reviewers saying they're dark.  They write about things that make themselves laugh, which just happens to be often quite sinister. Broad comedy isn't their schtick, and I'm glad.

I don't think the characters are supposed to represent the mentally ill.  Most of the characters are based on/have some basis on real people.  David, the serial killer obsessive for example is based in part, on Reece.  Even Papa Lazarou was based on a real person.  They take personality traits, voices, phrases from people they've met and twist them into something often sinister/macabre or down right funny (weird lines like "Get your claw out of my holiest of holies" was something once said to Reece).  You seem to be suggesting that the aim is for us to laugh at the mentally ill.  Well, they may have basis in real people, but they are just characters in a comedy. And often, the audience is on their side.  Take Pauline from LOG for example.  When we first meet her she's vindictive and cruel but they didn't just leave her as a 2 dimensional character as most other comedies do.  Pauline became sympathetic and the audience was eventually on her side.  She's a fantastic character and she's fully formed. 

I think you're over simplifying these shows and judging them on a basic level.  They don't invite us to laugh at the weird dregs of society.  We see these characters become realistic in spite of the strange situations they're in.  And that's pretty impressive imo.


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RE: Psychoville - 21/6/2009 4:26:10 PM   
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I agree with what all of Lazy says

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So peace (or twisted psychological, slightly potentially hypocritical darkness, verging on pointing and laughing at the socially excluded and the mentally ill, in order to split viewer focus between laughing at the freakshow and wondering if our tendency to laugh at the weak makes us the ones to blame for people becoming mentally ill, or turning them into outsiders and potential socio/psychopaths) to all (and indeed sundry)

Or have I misunderstood LOG and PV completely?


If that were the case then that would be the case in nearly every single comedy programme or film and we wouldn't be able to laugh at anything. I can't think of any effective comedy character who isn't either socially excluded or suffering from some sort of psychological defect.

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RE: Psychoville - 21/6/2009 5:17:30 PM   
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Okay. So they don't invite us to laugh at (or shy away from) characters they initially present as freaks (physically, in terms of their behaviour, or both) and then reveal details that make us feel bad for laughing at the characters (and by implication cause us question our own habits of judging people by assumptions based on appearance) when they are revealed to be more in pain and anguish than their initial presentation conveyed?

Yes that was more or less what Lazy Wolf Eyes said in response to my long sentence with many sub clauses, but it's also what I said anyway in that sentence if you read the stuff that comes after 'mentally ill' I didn't say they laugh at the mentally ill, I said they verge on that in order to then subvert the initial impression. Ie, make us shy away from characters at first then become more sympathetic towards them.

I don't unquestioningly love what 'the boys' do, but I certainly didn't simplify it. I get it. I have laughed at the initial impressions their characters create, then felt like a total bastard when their story becomes clearer.

I think you may have assumed the opening comment was an the beginning of an all out attack on the material 'the boys' come up with and then not read the final sentence properly. I'm crediting them with far more sophistication than you seem to think.

Since I was a member of a forum theatre group when they first gave us Legz Akimbo, I think I'd have been mortified by their subversion of 'get in touch with your inner child' to the more paedophilic 'put yourself in a child' if I didn't 'get' what they were doing.


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