jobloffski
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I know a lot of people don't like T3, but it might hold certain keys to how the story develops:
It is mentioned that Connor and Brewster's children will be important (Brewster is pregnant in TS). It is also mentioned the T3 Arnie had killed John Connor then been been re-programmed to protect him in the past.
It seems probable that Connor will drive events towards becoming what he was always told they would be, make himself public enemy number 1 to Skynet, then when it is desperate, on the back foot, and its one most important goal to kill him, thinking killing him will by itself end the rsistence, he will ultimately decide to allow this to happen, the computer enemy will have fulfilled its primary (maybe by then sole) function and then become useless.
I have a feeling it will probably end up being that simple, because the likelihood is that if too much time travel gubbins is involved it'll just be a hell of a mess, since the (as unliked by some as T3) Sarah Connor Chronicles had the screen time available to build this sort of thing up, whereas it could get farcical in a movie time frame and end up like Carry on Terminating.
Returning to topic, it's pretty clear that whatever positives I previously took from TS, having Bale in the Marcus role would have made the film better balanced, since it's Marcus's story more than Connor's and the bigger star in the more minor role (presumably expanded from what it would originally have been) leads to expectations of big moments from Connor the film was probably never intended to contain.
That said, Bale was probably thinking of the career move aspect of it all and Connor would undoubtedly have more to do in any sequels, and you can hardly blame him for wanting the hero part, even if the original plan would have made the film stronger. And as I said, I think it's a good 'set up' movie anyway, and whatever it means to the 'franchise' as a whole will only become clear when it's all done and dusted, and there's a context for it that doesn't currently exist.
Skynet does seem to have a bit of cold knack for psychological manipulation according to TS, so it might be an initially slightly humorous and then quite nightmarish move if the second film has Skynet producing a bunch of Terminators using the outer shell template of Marcus, so that visually at least, the hero of the first film beceomes the villain in the second (in a reversal of the T2 situation) and whenever they are attacked by terminators, they are (visually) killing Marcus, over and over again...And this could also be used as a 'distraction technique' to allow Ts built to different templates to do the infiltration proper and create an 'anyone could be a machine' paranoia (if they, for example rescue a colleague who turns out to be not what they appear...).
< Message edited by jobloffski -- 27/11/2009 1:57:10 PM >
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RE: Terminator Salvation question... - 
Sam Worthington is a bit meh but then on the other hand you got that dude from Star Trek doing a really good Kyle and the Moon -best name ever-Bloodgood putting in a solid show. It looks incredible but manages to be flat at the same time. It doesn't get your heart pounding like the first 2. I'm gonna give it a generous 3. Points for effort.
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