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RE: Knight of Fury - 20/5/2009 3:05:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: filmburner30

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/20/cannes-film-festival-tarantino-inglourious-basterds

Blimey Peter Bradshaw holds nothing back here


Not a fan of Mr Bradshaw's rants, which that review most definitely is.

For the record, I think the coverage on here today has been great and really informative, futher fuelling my desire to see IB. It's going to be a long three months.

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- 20/5/2009 3:07:36 PM   
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An "action movie with out the action".....so it's just a movie. Not really selling it to me.

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RE: - 20/5/2009 3:41:21 PM   
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 This isn't just any movie, this is a Quentin Tarantino movie.

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- 20/5/2009 3:43:22 PM   
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I find this "but QT dialogue is so much better than most other screenwriters that it’s hard to quibble. " hard to swallow.

I would argue that 10 years ago QT's dialogue was better, but Death Proof and Kill Bill contained some of the worst dialogue in a major motion picture for a long time, Death Proof especially.

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RE: RE: - 20/5/2009 3:43:25 PM   
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 I believe it is meant in the same way that Redervoir Dogs is a Heist movie without any actual Heist

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We've seen Inglourious Basterds.... - 20/5/2009 4:14:15 PM   
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Well, lucky you. This just made me more excited.

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RE: Knight of Fury - 20/5/2009 4:30:50 PM   
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/cannes-film-festival/5355842/Inglourious-Basterds-at-Cannes-2009---review.html

Sukhdev Sandhu gives a pretty negative review in the Telegraph and I seem to remember him really liking Kill Bill. It looks like it's a case of too much boring dialogue again, just like the awful Death Proof.

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so How was Mike Myers? - 20/5/2009 4:54:50 PM   
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Will this ressurect his career after the dog poo of doom the love guru ?

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Sorry, not convinced! - 20/5/2009 4:55:12 PM   
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 Everything since 'Jackie Brown' has been painful!

I'll probably go and see it out of morbid curiousity, but QT's 'Dogs' and 'Pulp' days seem to be long gone.

And that is a real shame!

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RE: Knight of Fury - 20/5/2009 4:57:04 PM  1 votes
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 Just read it and I didn't feel it was that negative. Sure the reviewer did not like the film but it has not said it was such a bad movie either. Like in most comments I've read, he expected a "choreography of blood-ballet" but instead he felt there was too much "yakking". Sure after you have seen the like of Kill Bill Vol 1 & 2 and Pulp Fiction and after the hype surrounding the film saying that Tarantino "was back in form" you would think that QT would deliver a "symphony in blood major". Some people didn't like Deathproof for the same reason "all talk no actions" but there is a group of people out there who actually really enjoyed the dialogue in Deathproof more than the action itself. Sounds like QT has done something similar for IB, we could be in for something interesting. Guess we'll have to watch the film and decide for ourselves ;o)

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RE: Knight of Fury - 20/5/2009 5:45:04 PM   
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Reviews seem a mixed bag, which is the feeling I got from reading the script.

Everything mentioned such as the opening scene, the bar scene, the Jew Hunter character which are getting praised as highlights are superbly written and excellent scenes/characters, stand outs in the script that are QT on his game. 

Its just the filler in between where the problems seem to lie.  But I'll judge when the flick is out. 

Is it me or are not many people getting too excited over the new Tarantino film?




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RE: We've Seen Inglourious Basterds! - 20/5/2009 6:24:30 PM   
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 Chris, you lucky basterd

Can't wait for this. Tarantino + World War II = fucktastic.

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RE: Pitt... - 20/5/2009 6:33:56 PM  1 votes
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Hewitt

OK, Jasper, not everything Pitt says is hilarious. But the character has a strong comedic tinge and that plays much more strongly as the film goes on. But neither does Tarantino let us forget that Raine is a ruthless badass, even if the role doesn't really require Pitt to do any physical stuff.



Pitt as the ultimate badass is a long shot, even more so with that odd accent he's accustomed. Against-type casting, hope it works out.

quote:

If all scenes in movies are about control, Tarantino understands that perhaps better than anybody, and some of the scenes here – the opening exchange between Landa and a French dairy farmer, and the Reservoir Dogs-esque scene in French bar, La Louisiane – are masterclasses in how to switch control from character to character. Indeed, both scenes are as tense as anything Tarantino has ever done in his career.



It's an interesting point you're raising. The scene in Pulp Fiction where Butch crashes into Marsellus with his Honda, they fight in the shop, they're captured by two psychopaths, Marsellus is raped, Butch escapes, reconsiders and saves Marsellus, Marsellus then lets Butch go -- it's probably the best example of this concept. If Inglorious Basterds features a scene half as switchin' and tense as this, it'll be worth seeing I for sure.  

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RE: Pitt... - 20/5/2009 6:46:08 PM   
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Not mention of Maggie Cheung at all in that piece - the only reason I might watch this film when it appears on terrestrial TV in a couple of years.  I'm guessing she's barely in it.

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RE: Pitt... - 20/5/2009 7:31:50 PM   
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Not mention of Maggie Cheung at all in that piece - the only reason I might watch this film when it appears on terrestrial TV in a couple of years.  I'm guessing she's barely in it.


Yeah she is barely in it. In fact I wasn't actually sure who it is that she played in it. Her and Julia Dreyfus's characters are easy to confuse


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RE: Pitt... - 20/5/2009 7:33:47 PM   
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 The only reason I want to see this is because Michael Fassbender's in it. He gave the best performance of last year in Hunger and I can't wait to see what he delivers here. Unfortunately he'll be lumbered with naff dialogue, where every character sounds like Quentin bloody Tarantino.

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RE: Knight of Fury - 20/5/2009 7:54:33 PM   
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hardly abuse helen, and it's more a dig at empire in general.  i like empire, i do, but i get rather tired of the cheerleading you guys occasionally slip into. my problem with this is this:  if the film isn't all that good empire gets to have it's cake and eat it.

i am a film fan, and a film maker, i just feel more comfortable when the people that report on and judge movies (such as yourselves) are obviously seperate from the studios and productiuon companies who make (and sell) the films.  yes it's great when critics are genuinely excited about a film but that doesn't mean active promotion of a filmaker who really doesn't need the help.

one of the reasons i stopped buying empire for a while was reading things like the preview of the matrix sequels a few years ago ('You will believe the CGI is live action, and the live action is CGI!').  recently there has been an improvement, i just get disheartened when you slip into your old ways.

i'm not suggesting you are in the industry's pocket, i just fell  more comfortable when that's more clear.  i'm sorry if that offends anyone, it's just how i feel.



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CANNY WAIT - 20/5/2009 7:54:36 PM   
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This looks amazing!

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RE: CANNY WAIT - 20/5/2009 8:12:47 PM   
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The only reason I want to see this is because Michael Fassbender's in it. He gave the best performance of last year in Hunger and I can't wait to see what he delivers here. Unfortunately he'll be lumbered with naff dialogue, where every character sounds like Quentin bloody Tarantino.


He's great in it. He's also great in Fish Tank as well.
The problem is that he's underused in IB


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- 20/5/2009 9:56:40 PM  1 votes
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 Uh, Uma Thurman drew a box on the screen in Kill Bill, not Pulp Fiction

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RE: - 20/5/2009 10:31:29 PM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: TheJOKER18

Uh, Uma Thurman drew a box on the screen in Kill Bill, not Pulp Fiction

Hmm think you might want to check your facts there Joker, definitely Pulp Fiction Uma to Travolta as they are about to enter Jack Rabbit Slims "Don't be such a .."
Can't wait to see this Tarantino is the epitome of originality in my opinion, I'd rather watch any Tarantino film than the likes of Angels and Demons any day that's not to say I don't like Tom Hanks or Ron Howard, just you can kind of imagine how that film is going to beat, IB I have no idea what to expect, except so sparky dialogue.


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RE: - 20/5/2009 11:09:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheJOKER18

Uh, Uma Thurman drew a box on the screen in Kill Bill, not Pulp Fiction


good one buddy.  have you even seen either film?

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EMPIRE IS ON QT'S NUTS!!! - 21/5/2009 5:24:41 AM   
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It looks alright!!!!! When I first seen Grindhouse i thought it was good also, then I seen it a second time and felt the characters were quite annoying. The dalogue always seem the same through out his films. I dont think empire would give the film a negative review if it was a piece of shit.

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I'm on the fence - 21/5/2009 9:02:24 AM  1 votes
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The trailer makes it look brilliant but I have to remind myself that it is a Tarantino movie. When I saw Grindhouse I was blown away by Planet Terror and then bored to death by the purile death proof. Proving that Rodriguez is a better director than Tarantino. But the premise seems good, it looks visually stunning and the cast is top notch (you know except Eli Roth) so I am still unsure whether to see it.

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RE: - 21/5/2009 12:54:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheJOKER18

Uh, Uma Thurman drew a box on the screen in Kill Bill, not Pulp Fiction



Yeah close, but she actually does it in both films! Its even outlined in Pulp Fiction, but not in Bill.

Derp!



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RE: RE: - 21/5/2009 1:44:40 PM   
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 That Guardian review makes me laugh - it reminds me a bit of when Homer became a food critic in The Simpsons and just sets out to slag everything off.

Havent got round to reading the Empire piece properly yet but christ, some people need to get over themselves! Not everyone has followed the backlash bandwagon in recent years to suddenly decide Tarantino is shit after all - it's still possible that some people enjoy his stuff!

At any rate I can't help thinking this sounds like it will be more like the daft/less serious Kill Bill than the likes of Jackie Brown so personally I'll be trying not to compare it to his first 3 films.

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RE: RE: - 21/5/2009 3:07:29 PM  1 votes
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 http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/first-night-inglourious-basterds-cannes-film-festival-1688625.html

This seems a more balanced review.
I will be going to see it though as i feel the crtics are just looking to kick QT all the time.
Real film fans love all the reverance to other films in his work as it makes you seek out the films that inspired him and that cant be a bad thing can it?
Oh and it got Rod Taylor in it who was in Hitchcocks The Birds

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ARGHGHGHG - 21/5/2009 9:15:38 PM   
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Can't. Wait. Ah. Can't. Wait. Eep. So. Excited. Ah. Can't. Talk. In. Complete. Sentances. Excitement. Has. Impaired. Speech.

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Really excited...but - 23/5/2009 1:35:27 AM   
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Personally, I can't wait for this film. But I've said the same over all Tarantino's flicks when really I don't think he'll ever touch the brilliance of Pulp Fiction again.

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- 24/5/2009 1:15:59 PM   
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she drew a box on screen in pulp fiction jus b4 she goes into jack rabbit slims wit vincent an in kill bill she does an outline of a box jus b4 the vernita greene fight

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