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RE: Average - 5/5/2009 1:14:56 PM   
blackduck


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Overall the movie wasn’t too bad. It was a solid, very average, movie.
 
What let the movie down was attention to detail. Not just the iffy CGI but simple character stuff like wolvies claws, in the comic and in X1 it hurts him when he extends his claws as they rip through the skin each time, they make a point of this. Yet here they cause no problem what so ever.
 
Not only are the fights sanitised into blandness but so in wolveriene, when it’s going through all the stuff he’s done in his past there is nothing that bad, he seem to have spent most of his time getting sabretooth to behave and he did bugger all during the Striker years, never showed him being the”best of the best”.
 
I’ll try and keep this bit spoiler free, he’s ment to have super enhanced senses…so  the explination for one of the characters turning up at the island makes no sense. For that matter he should have also twigged Sabretooth was there.
 
The scene with the old couple was rushed, would have been nice if he’d asked what happned their son. Who handly enough had similar taste in clothes and was also build like a brick shithouse.
And yes, if you’re sending a sharpshooter after someone who’s indestructible, might be an idea to give him the alamantium bullets.
Why did Gambit keep forgetting he was Cajun?
And I still don’t get why he needed Wolverines DNA, wouldn’t sabretooths have done the job?
Was  Deadpool fully alimantium? If so how could he lose his head?
 
On the plus side , I thought the Wolverine / sabretooth stuff worked well and the fight scenes were fun. Opening bit was good too

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RE: I enjoyed it - 5/5/2009 1:17:42 PM   
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The main body of the film starts in the 70's but that doesn't mean it ends in the 70's. Even so do mutants age at the same rate as humans? But this still shows plenty of time for Sabertooth to forget Wolverine for any number of reasons in between


Firstly I thought the film was dissappointly average and, as others have pointed, out riddled with bad scripting and plot holes you could drive a truck through.

However, I can solve one of the major plots holes people are speculating about here with ragards to Sabertooth. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that Schrieber's character is referred to as 'Sabretooth' by anyone anywhere in the movie. As far as I'm aware his is called 'Victor Creed' only. In the first X-men film the 'Sabretooth' character is never referred to as Victor Creed and looks more animal-like. Therefore in the movie universe I doubt that these two characters are the same...

Yes, it fucks with comic continunity but so did a lot of the Wolverine movie (and X-men movies for that matter). Still doesn't excuse the poor shit dished up as Deadpool and Gambit though...

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Bit of a Disappointment - 5/5/2009 7:54:20 PM   
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After reading a few of the reviews posted on here i thought that I might aswell throw my two cents in....
First things first - As a film this was pretty bog standard sumer blockbuster popcorn fodder, the plot was loose, the characters likeable and some quite good action sequences. However there was more things wrong with this movie than there were things right. Now I'm not going into a whole comic book geek throw a hissy fit mode here but i do beleive that the directors could have done soo much more with this film.
Let me just say while the fantastic opening montage was rolling I allowed myself to believe all the hype that had surrounded the film and banished all thoughts of 'Last Stand' to the back of my brain however the longer on the film went the more those toughts slowly re emerged. What really rubbed me the wrong way was the amount of cliches that the writes resorted to in order to achieve a cheap laugh. This bad writing basically showed the characters in a bad light and to be honest towards the end of the film I was frankly bored with Hugh Jackman's portrayal of wolverine. I went in looking forward to seeing a more feral ferocious wolverine but came out more excited about sabretooth and deadpool. Speaking of deadpool - or Wade Wilson, he simply didn't have near enough the amount of screen time that Ryan Reynolds deserved as he simply stole the scenes which he was in. Gambit was another who was left out in the cold by the writers inscessant need to appease a whole range of fans with little cameos from a multitude of characters. One last bad thing was the CGI, and i mean this was terrible scene with wolverine slicing the ladder springs to mind and not for the right reasons.
There I have ranted a little with my main qualms about this film however there wer some plus points like the characters of Deadpool and Sabretooth- both played brilliantly in my opinion. The introduction of Xavier at the end was a nice prelude to the X-Men first class movie as well.
 
All in all Origins was a better film than 'Last Stand' however due to fact that it promised so much i was left with the bitter taste of disappointment in my mouth as i left the cinema.


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RE: The main problem with this... - 5/5/2009 8:23:06 PM   
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Well, its certainly what the BBFC used to do  The only reason I made the point was that I'd read a bunch of stuff in the IMDB parents guide that didn't seem to happen in the film and some (though not all) of the action appeared rushed and disjointed so I assumed it had been snipped. I suppose its more likely that footage already shot was excised by the studio so that it didnt screw with their "target demographic". Considering all the hype before the film that this was going to have all the berserker stuff that had only been touched on in the three X-Men films, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't, well, more violent. There was nothing in this film that wouldn't have been in X2. Anyhoo, hopefully there'll be a 15-cert DVD with a bit more pushing and shoving in it......
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RE: The main problem with this... - 5/5/2009 10:52:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fliblet

Well, its certainly what the BBFC used to do  The only reason I made the point was that I'd read a bunch of stuff in the IMDB parents guide that didn't seem to happen in the film and some (though not all) of the action appeared rushed and disjointed so I assumed it had been snipped. I suppose its more likely that footage already shot was excised by the studio so that it didnt screw with their "target demographic". Considering all the hype before the film that this was going to have all the berserker stuff that had only been touched on in the three X-Men films, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't, well, more violent. There was nothing in this film that wouldn't have been in X2. Anyhoo, hopefully there'll be a 15-cert DVD with a bit more pushing and shoving in it......


exactly! the bbfc is no longer a censor board, but a classification one, theyre much more lenient than days of olde.

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RE: The main problem with this... - 6/5/2009 12:44:32 PM   
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Saw it last night......it was ok.

I read the comics growing up and consider myself a fanboy even though I haven't picked up an X-Men comic since I was 13. Loved X-Men and X2, thought The Last Stand was piss poor but not as bad as Harry Knowles would like you to think.

My biggest issue with Wolverine is that it's very light and cheesy, I was hoping for something a little deeper (in the same vein as Bryan Singer's X-Men films: character over spectacle) but this more closely resembles The Last Stand due to it's lack of focus and shoehorning in as many characters and effects as possible.

The good:

1. Jackman, Shreiber and Huston were all solid. Supporting turns from Kevin Durand and Will.I.Am were better than expected, Reynolds was amusing for his 5 minutes of screentime and Lynn Collins was fine in a thankless tragic girlfriend role. Dom Monaghan was wasted unfortunately, I really liked how he played Bradley. Taylor Kitsch as Gambit was fine but like most of the supporting characters he had limited screentime and was a plot device rather than an actual character.

2. Action was entertaining but nothing new. Not sure why people are bitching so much about the effects, a couple of dodgy aircraft shots and some occasionally ropey CG claw work isn't the end of the world. However the de-aging effect of Patrick Stewart was pretty awful compared to how well it work in The Last Stand....3 years ago.

3. Deadpool fans are screaming about it but I liked where the Weapon XI story went.

The bad:

1. Dialogue was pretty cringe worthy at times and the pace didn't really give the characters any time to breathe. Any time someone was in danger of being fleshed out an action scene would pop up to move things on. That just feels lazy and as such it was all very superficial.

2. Most characters were seemingly thrown in for a "cool" action scene but had little to no actual purpose.

3. Not sure why Stryker went to all the trouble of remolding Logan as Weapon X when Creed (identical healing powers) would have been suitable and was in fact already working for him. Maybe Stryker didn't trust him? Again, not sure why considering he can't have been any more of a loose cannon than Logan. I doubt Creed would have destroyed the operation, he seemingly just wanted to become a more efficient killer. A couple of extra scenes wouldn't have hurt to clarify that a bit.

4. Creed's relationship with Logan in general seemed unfocused. I get that he felt abandoned when Logan walked away from the team so there's a revenge thing there but why later help him against Weapon XI? Revenge against Stryker for not using him as Weapon X? He really doesn't want to see his brother die? "No one kills you but me"? Also, his appearance has left a big inconsistency with X-Men considering how Sabretooth was presented in that film. Maybe it will be explained in a Wolverine sequel but considering the writers went to the trouble of coming up with a stupid way to erase Logan's memories to tie into X-Men I'm surprised this oversight was left untouched. Although he is never referred to as Sabretooth in the film or credits so I wouldn't be too surprised if at some point it's explained that he's a different character to try and dodge the continuity problem.

Overall it was reasonably entertaining but still way below par when it comes to more recent superhero adaptations. If all the rumours of studio interference are true then that would explain the film's incoherence and hopefully the potential sequel will address those problems.


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RE: The main problem with this... - 6/5/2009 2:35:06 PM   
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2. Action was entertaining but nothing new. Not sure why people are bitching so much about the effects, a couple of dodgy aircraft shots and some occasionally ropey CG claw work isn't the end of the world. However the de-aging effect of Patrick Stewart was pretty awful compared to how well it work in The Last Stand....3 years ago.



I think it's just the fact that, CGI has come a long way in the past 10 years and wolverine was a big budget summer blockbuster.  I think we've got to the point where it's inexcusable to have ropey CGI in a $100mil blockbuster film, even if it's only in a couple of scenes. 


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RE: The main problem with this... - 6/5/2009 3:34:05 PM   
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quote:



2. Action was entertaining but nothing new. Not sure why people are bitching so much about the effects, a couple of dodgy aircraft shots and some occasionally ropey CG claw work isn't the end of the world. However the de-aging effect of Patrick Stewart was pretty awful compared to how well it work in The Last Stand....3 years ago.



I think it's just the fact that, CGI has come a long way in the past 10 years and wolverine was a big budget summer blockbuster.  I think we've got to the point where it's inexcusable to have ropey CGI in a $100mil blockbuster film, even if it's only in a couple of scenes. 



I don't actully think they de-aged Patrick Stewart as I don't actully think he was standing there. It looks like some shot from another film, badly inserted into this one with a quick ten seconds of dialouge put in.  

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RE: The main problem with this... - 6/5/2009 3:54:12 PM   
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Hope thats not the way they plan to show him in the mooted young X-men movie

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RE: The main problem with this... - 6/5/2009 4:10:28 PM   
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OK, I get that FX have come a long way in the last 10 years and to see bad ones can be distracting but I wasn't really drawn into the film that much to begin with. Like I said, I found it very superficial and nothing really grabbed my imagination so I wasn't "into it", you know? Maybe if I was then I'd be pissed about the FX pulling me out of the story.
What I have noticed is that more tentpole/blockbuster films like this occasionally have ropey CG considering the budget etc (Stephen Sommers' films are repeat offenders since The Mummy Returns). You can throw all the money you want at a film but if the right people aren't handling it then the end result won't be up to snuff - that applies to any area of the finished product.
I also think the filmmakers usually start blaming rushed production schedules and considering this film was rumoured to be a troubled production I can believe it was a photo finish. However you usually get the best effects on passion projects (see Jackson and Cameron's films for evidence) so in studio mediocrity you'll get just that sometimes....mediocrity. Although I didn't dislike the film I'm under no impression that it was a labour of love for anyone (except maybe Hugh) so what we've got from Fox is "good enough to meet the release date".

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RE: X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 6/5/2009 4:21:35 PM   
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its got hugh jackman in it............therefore that makes it 5star in my book! lol


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RE: X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 6/5/2009 6:23:21 PM   
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The opening credits sequence featuring Wolverine and his brother was quality, and Viktor was a very good villain. There were a number of decent twists, and as you'd expect from an X-Men film, the action scenes were quality. The film's got panned a bit from the critics, and I don't understand the assertions that it has loads of plotholes - I thought it largely made perfect sense. For example, it DOES make sense to make him indestructible before wiping his memory - as it was only his memory that got him through the ordeal.

7 out of 10 from me.

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RE: X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 8/5/2009 8:25:22 AM   
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I finally saw this in the cinema last night. I'd give it 3/5. High Jackman does deserve better. A lot of the greenscreen work was shit and looked flat and 2D. Wade Wilson needed more screen time.
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RE: X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 8/5/2009 1:49:37 PM   
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It's an odd one this....

There was a lot to like in Wolverine; Hugh Jackman was as assured as Wolverine as he's always been, Ryan Reynolds is good as Wade Wilson in his brief time onscreen and so is Dominic Monaghan.  Liev Screiber is suitably nasty and menacing for most of his screen time, in fact I didn't really have a problem with any of the cast, apart from maybe William (I refuse to call him Will.i.am!).  There are some okay action scenes and there is certainly an interesting and entertaining film just aching to get out. 

However, all these things are undermined and rendered pointless due to some seriously shoddy and amateur errors.  There is potential for a great Weapon X/Wolverine origin story, it's in there, but the script and pacing of the film is shocking.  There are awful cliches at every turn and it just feels lazy.  Wolverine walks away in slow mo from a huge fireball, Silver Fox says "I feel cold" as she lays dying, Wolverine screams into the air when she carks it, the introduction of adamantium bulletts.... it's all just very lazy! 

The action scenes have potential, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Wolverine pursued on his bike by choppers and military jeeps?!  Yet they're poorly shot and made laughable by awful, awful effects work.  Agent Zero had been pretty cool up until that chase scene, but then for some unknown reason he starts talking like Kermit The Fucking Frog.  The Wolverine/Creed fisticuffs are okay, but they're repetative to say the least, I mean just how many times do we need to see Creed sneer and then jump cat like through the air?!  Gambit vs Wolverine is ruined by the cheapest looking set in the history of cinema. 

Why does a huge Summer tentpole blockbuster look so cheap?! 

The Weapon X Team stroll through some Nigerian shanty towns and it looks like fucking cardboard!  The green screen, the CGI, the music, the sets, everything comes off like it could've been knocked together for a few grand!  I was cringing as Wolverine looked at his arse candle CG claws in the bathroom mirror.  Bad, bad effects work that just continued throughout.  Why the fuck did they not use the half decent de-aging effects from X3 of Xavier?  When he cropped up I was dying to laugh because it looked like they'd just drawn a smiley face on a fucking egg!

And yea, Xavier cropping up at the end.  Fucking shite!  It made a mockery of the continuity of the first two XMen movies.  Surely the kids he saved from Three Mile would say "Yea, some big hairy dude with steel claws saved us from our cages"? Fast forward to X1 and Xavier has no clue who fucking Wolverine is! Where did Strykers son go? At what point between Three Mile Island and X2 does Stryker take him to Xaviers school to be taught/cured?  Don't the kids recognise Stryker/Jason when they turn up?! Argghhh!

Seriously one of the most frustrating films I've seen in ages.  So much potential wasted.  Thats not to say I hated it all, I did enjoy parts of it when I could get past the atrocious effects/sets/contradictions/cliches etc. 

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RE: X-Men Origins: Wolverine - 8/5/2009 8:33:52 PM   
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Abysmal. Since when does every mutant have the ability to leap 20 metres high? Bryan Singer would be turning in his grave (if he was dead). All his good work undone.

Reynolds was good though.

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RE: It's a long time comin' - 11/5/2009 9:38:35 AM   
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Could have been a lot better, something just didn't sit right with me - a bit like The Last Stand, there were so many characters it was difficult to give a toss about motives.  It was extraordinarily average.  ***
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RE: - 11/5/2009 11:27:26 AM   
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I loved it but then again I would. I am the kind of guy who loved this movie and the Watchmen but hated the Dark Knight which is the single most overrated comic book film after batman Begins.

I am not on anything nor am I taking the Michael.

Wolverine was more enjoyable for me and although it was flawed it kept me watching and not as bemused as some on here are. Maybe if Hugh Jackman had adopted the gravelly voiced silliness people like about Christain Bale it might have been good for them.

The two principles are good, the story does make sense and the action is good. I was not crazy about the ending but it certainly did what I wanted it to do.

It is not as good as X2 but it will do me.

Here is the problem with an Xmen movie - there are too many characters to give screen time to so concentrate on the ones people like most will be the MO, generally.

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RE: RE: - 12/5/2009 1:38:22 PM   
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Wolverine is a good, solid entertaining film, and a big improvement on The Last Stand. It doesn't have the same depth as Singer's films, but on the action and story, I'd say it delivered. I'd welcome a sequel, even though it doesn't need one to get to the storyline in X-Men. I think a Magneto/Xavier origins film would need more characterisation in the manner of Singer's films, but I'd like to see that done next. I'm less keen on a Deadpool film, judging simply on the film, I don't see how I'd find that interesting (the films are basically all I know about X-Men, but even so, you still have to base it on what's been filmed). I think what they could do, with a central trilogy and some origins films based around that is a very good idea, and if that's what they're going to do, Wolverine is a good start.

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RE: Empire, HARSH. Action was plentiful - 12/5/2009 7:54:20 PM   
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Yeah.PR.
I can spot them a mile off.
Most of them havent a clue as they are paid to be interested and sooooooo boring!!!
WATCH IT IN UK CINEMAS NOW!

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RE: The claws are out - 14/5/2009 7:02:45 PM   
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A very average movie at best. I went in not expecting too much and so was not disappointed. A good beginning I thought though not in line with the comic backstory.
Jackman also gives a good performance, but many of the others are average at best.
A waste of Ryan Renolds as Wade Wilson...one of the best bits of the film I thought.

A really bad second half of a film, that seems in a rush to tie things up.
Deadpool? Aggggghhhhhhh!!!!


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RE: A less complicated Deadpool and a French Gambit. - 16/5/2009 2:06:40 PM   
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I wish i had powers like cyclops so i could have burned the cinema down so i didnt have to finish watching wolverine, or someone would erase my memory with an adamantium bullet. bitterly dissapointed after such a big build up, though nothing beforehand looked spectacular. Real bad reward as an end of exams treat. Totsi was supposed to be really good, no? So based on that gavin good as really let himself down by directing this lump of shit.
Poorly directed, edited, choreographed, shit characters, no flow and awfully obvious sets. None of the mutants were interesting at all and i nearly fell asleep watching it. After watching this I could seek solace in X3, it is so much better. Also i watched a bit of Xmen 1 on tv last night and it reminded me how good the 1st one was. Shame its descended to so much wankery.


wolverine was shit

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RE: Turd with naff plastic claws - 16/5/2009 2:18:08 PM   
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A truly fucking horrendous film possibly up their with Electra, it made x3 look like x2.
A mish mash of shit cgi plot holes terrible actions scenes and the constant feeling that pissing and shitting myself would be alot more entertaining.
If your going to tell an origin story at least tell a orgin with a story, their is zero substance to any of the story in this entire shite fest.
The most interesting moments are in the cheap opening credits, i want to see wolverine in Nam jumping down fox holes and carving up charlie, not having run in's with mr and mrs kent on smallvile farm and getting his jacket and bike.
And i hate the " hey its a blockbuster" response, because this film had nothing blockbuster about it. Can anyone name one scene from this film that was exciting or gripping?
That awfull bike chase with some of the worst blue screen ive ever seen? Or the countless 3 second long fights with sabertooth which were all edited to death and over in about the time it takes for me to take a crap, or that shocking final on top of a silo full of cgi that makes the water tentacle in the abyss seem cutting edge again.

Utter pish



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RE: Turd with naff plastic claws - 16/5/2009 9:04:17 PM   
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I haven't actually posted on here in quite some time, however this awful film has forced my hand(s to type in a negative way about the film on my keyboard). The effects were awful, especially that scene in the bathroom of the unnecessary old couple's house where Jackman plays with himself while looking in the mirror. Not only were his claws incredibly CG in this scene but it was also a complete rip-off of the scene in which Peter Parker plays with his webs for the first time in Spiderman.

The side characters were awful. The other mutants were jokes, especially Zero (why not give him your magical adamantium bullets?) and Gambit was also particularily poor. The only redeeming factor at all in the whole movie was Liev Schreiber who I must say I was surprised to hear was involved in this shitfest. His Victor Creed was enjoyable to watch for the most part. Wolverine's one true love was distinctly uninteresting, I never cared whether she was good or bad, dead or alive, I just wanted her out of the way. Annoyingly she stayed to the very end. Stryker, who was imposing, menacing and intelligent under the command of Brian Cox, now apears quite idiotic. He lets the cat out of the bag and is never in full control. Such a dissapointment because the character was one of the best things about X2.

Now these "Adamantium Bullets" deserve a paragraph of their own. Firstly, what the fuck? Secondly, this was such a useless cop-out, such a shit deus ex machina that it was disgusting to watch. The screenwriters obviously got to a point where they said to themselves "we need a way to tie this leaking bag of crap together...hmmm...what about adamantium bullets? They could kill him! No they can't, he'll just forget everything because as you know the only thing that can damage indestructable metal is more indestructable metal." Terrble plot twist, excrutiating to watch.

All in all I should give his a 1 star rating but because I feel sorry for Hugh Jackman, who is quite likeable usually, and Liev Schreiber is such a fine actor who made this less of a catastrophe than it was destined to be, I'll give it 2 stars. What a waste of time this film was.


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RE: Turd with naff plastic claws - 17/5/2009 12:59:59 AM   
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I enjoyed it, it's not supposed to be cerebral if you want that watch The Dark Knight. I thought Hugh Jackman did a great job, it didn't think it was cheesy at all. I thought Ryan Reynolds was cool too and hilarious, Will. I am. did good too. Liev Schrieber makes a great bad guy, and Taylor Kitch was good as Gambit. The love interest for Jackman did good too, and I thought their chemistry was great. I like the humor (the bathroom thrash up was hilarious) too, all movies like this need it otherwise they are too serious. I like the fights, my only complaint they looked a bit too edited, and quick. I wanted the scraps to last longer, of course it's PG-13 so how badass can you get with that. I thought it was better than the first X-Men, yeah I said it, WOLVERINE is the ONLY reason I even watched X-Men, bitch it you want. I can't wait for the Director's Cut, and I liked the score by Harry Gregson Williams.

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RE: - 17/5/2009 6:09:32 PM   
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....and I am still reeling from the fact that Keanu Reeves is playing the lead in the new Jekyll & Hyde movie. . . bleugh!!


He's so 1D though...how could he play two personalities?


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He`s A Lumberjack But He`s Not Okay... - 19/5/2009 12:18:08 PM   
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He`s a lumberjack but he`s not okay he sleeps all night and he works all day. He doesn`t wear womans clothing but does hang around in bars. Sorry couldn`t resist it. Logan (Wolverine) also left a team of recruited former mutants and his brother (called Victor) who have been on some dubious military missions in Africa but now his brother is stalking and killing them. When his brother kills his partner he agrees to become infused internally with steel by Danny Hustons character to fight him but then afterwards goes on the run and is pursued by some of his former team members and his brother nicknamed Sabretooth.

Its a decent film with some impressive action sequences but somehow it didn`t completly do it for me I just felt it could have been better. It didn`t consistantly work especially the sequence with a former miltary member who has let himself go physically and looks and acts alot like Fat Bastard from Austin Powers 3 minus the Scottish persona. I also became tired of the endless charging at each other and growling that Wolverine and Sabre Tooth kept doing rather than be gripped by it like I should have been. Good but not great. 3/5


 

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RE: He`s A Lumberjack But He`s Not Okay... - 19/5/2009 12:36:02 PM   
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RE: Harsh - 23/5/2009 2:24:05 AM   
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First off, yeah I know I can’t spell and the grammar has gone to pot, but I’m sure you’ll get the gist.

Wolverine could well be the biggest disappointment of a comic book movie for me since Punisher War Zone, a film I never want the misfortune of sitting though again since I felt like it was actually making me die inside, the levels of pain and rage caused by that abomination will haunt me for years to come, anyway about Wolverine, Given that the trailer was extremely promising (well I thought so anyway) I just assumed that this would be a tale of a mans journey though life to the point where he had done and suffered so many countless terrible things that he saw and no longer cared about any other option than to become a lab rat in a vicious military experiment that might bring him a new purpose in life. I was wrong, what I seemed to get was a shallow, over blown, badly shot mess. The almost no effort in the way of character development was appalling, Danny Huston as ‘Stryker’ was God awful and bore no resemblance to Brian Cox’s outstanding performance in X2 you wouldn’t even know there were meant to be the same person if it were not stated. Hugh Jackman wasn’t bad but seemed less believable in this one than he did in even X3. Liev Schreiber was one of the few redeeming qualities of the film but the complete lack of any conclusion to the question of whether he and X1’s Sabertooth are one and the same was a let down, I for one don’t think they are unless he somehow was lobotomized in the 15 year or so gap, to be honest I wouldn’t have even cared if they hinted he was cloned.

One of the very worst things was the complete lack of transition from James Howlett into Logan/ Wolverine, That should have been a moment in the film where you would almost felt as if a character had died and could see that even though they are visually the same man he was once a very different person, but at the very end you wouldn’t know any difference, the memory loss gun was just plain laughable. Another waste was the 100 or so years of rich history that could have been delved into to even slightly just to reveal who James Howlett is though all these trying times, perhaps how bloodthirsty he could have been, but alas just a pointless opening montage. Not even going to bother mentioning Deadpool, complete character sodomisation right there along with the mutant character free-for-all extravaganza that seemed to go on forever.

The sound track was poor and this is something I never wanted to say being a big fan of Harry Gregson-Williams but I’m afraid it seemed like the score was compiled of all the bits of Metal Gear Solid 3 that they didn’t think were good enough for the game but could just be thrown in Wolverines direction, I know that composers can echo pervious works, Danny Elfman especially does this however its just to similar for me, the adamantium sequence especially, I half expected Colonel Volgin to enter the lab clapping his hands and laughing maniacally as the adamantium is pumped in. The opportunity for some great themes and original sounds for the film were almost lost entirely. I’m struggling to find anything good to say about it except that it does end eventually, I probably expected too much but I didn’t think a half decent film was too much to ask for these days.
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RE: Harsh - 23/5/2009 12:19:21 PM   
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Wow the negativity is overwhelming, it wasn't thaaaaat bad guys! there are much worse. I think the problem with these kinds of films is that they naturally come with such high expectations, on the back of a long running, much loved X universe. I loved the film, but I love pretty much any comic book movie (almost) My only gripe with this movie were Wolvies nasty ass CG claws, I mean really? really? they looked blue?? The admantium used in the fox logo of the trailer was better than that, ten fold. Would it have hurt to put a little genuine metallic edge to it? Maybe they spent all the CG funds on making Patrick Stewart look like creepy.

One thing that is bugging me, which im sure no one else has even noticed as its pretty irrelevant, is what happened to Storm? As I saw a child version of her in one the first trailers, in what looked like Africa, I thought she was in it. It is obviously on the cutting room floor for perhaps trying to avoid confusing the story. But its left me intrigued as to how her story became invloved in it, as she is a pretty big player with a good story.

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RE: It wasn't perfect, but hey... - 24/5/2009 3:35:13 PM   
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I just saw it and I sort of wish I hadn't.  I'd agree with most criticisms stated here, this movie was too generic, following every cliche of screenplay writing 101 and it also suffered from too many characters, although there was little solace in Sabretooth and maybe even Gambit (where was Josh Holloway?).  I have never really read any of the Marvel comics but they obviously have a plethora of characters both heroes and villains, but they never seem to do them justice in the way say (I didn't want it to come to this) Christopher Nolan did with Batman.  Ever since they've become their own studio they have just released average film after average film without taking the time to do it well.  You'd think they'd have more respect for their characters.  And each movie has to end with the opening of a new franchise.  I dread to think what their next couple of movies are going to be.  I really hope they don't screw up Captain America.          

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