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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 26/4/2009 9:51:00 PM

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New Nightmare is an amazing film.

I don't have a lot of love for Alice. The writers made a character on the whim and she took over the franchise. In fact I wish they had of used the original script for Freddy's Dead. In the first draft Freddy catches up with Alice and a sixteen year old Jacob and kills her. Jacob goes on the run and ends up in a halfway house. Taryn, Joey and Kincaid all get brought back too and help the kids take down Freddy. Check it out online. Worth a read and I think you can get it at www.nightmareonelmstreetfilms.com

I will add I think Wilcox is very talanted and did a good job. I'm just not a fan of the character. It should have been Kristen....

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 1/5/2009 10:47:49 AM

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And here is who they've cast as Kristen in the remake...

Katie Cassidy... Apparently she's a good actress, was in the Black Christmas remake (not seen it) and Taken but I must have missed her!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 1/5/2009 10:49:57 AM

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Don't recall her in Taken, but it's been a while since I saw it...!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 1/5/2009 10:52:49 AM

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I'm guessing she played the daughter's friend... the one who was kidnapped, drugged up and left for dead in the brothel.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 3/5/2009 11:40:00 PM

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And here is who they've cast as Kristen in the remake...

Katie Cassidy... Apparently she's a good actress, was in the Black Christmas remake (not seen it) and Taken but I must have missed her!

She is a decent actress. She was in Supernatural and she was the final girl in the Black Christmas remake. What bugs me about the remake is the fact they named the character Kris. Most people will assume it's Kristen Parker. It's not. Due to that I guess that mean's fans can rule out the reintroduction of the K.Parker character into the new films. That's a pitty. Her dream ability was ace. You know what I mean Losthighway? IMO they should have called her another name. Since I sent you the info on the script you can see what I am getting at?

She looks gorgous in the picture you posted. Please Freddy, don't hurt her!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 3/5/2009 11:44:37 PM

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Good evening my old mate....

Was she the old Ruby in Supernatural?

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 3/5/2009 11:53:10 PM

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The one and only!

......that is a really good picture of her I must say so again.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 4/5/2009 12:00:05 AM

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Never realised it was her in Black Christmas...

Oh well, lets hope she fights a good fight, until Freddy finger(blades) her...if you know what I mean..

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 4/5/2009 12:02:30 AM

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Ya never know.....

(Well I do. I read the script. Losthighway knows too, but we all swore we'd never reveal any spoilers and we won't! LOl.)

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 8/6/2009 8:41:05 PM

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Did someone mention the TV show earlier in the thread? It's on Zone Horror right now. It's crap but I can't stop watching!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 8/6/2009 10:53:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: losthighway

And here is who they've cast as Kristen in the remake...

Katie Cassidy... Apparently she's a good actress, was in the Black Christmas remake (not seen it) and�Taken but I must have missed her!

Kristen didn't turn up until Part 3, did she?

Anyway, I just bought the box set for less than seven quid, which is a nice bargain, so I've been working my way through them gradually. The original is classic, superb all the way through although the ending is a wee bit iffy. Otherwise it still holds up remarkably well.

Of the sequels, thus far: Freddy's Revenge has occasional moments but is pretty stupid and can easily be ignored in terms of series continuity. Dream Warriors is pretty good although by this point it's starting to go a little OTT on the dream imagery. The Dream Master is actually quite a lot of fun, although I get the feeling that by that point they were more or less making it up as they went along. I do like the character of Alice though. The Dream Child starts off alright but gets pretty dreadful towards the end. The comic book sequence is a real WTF moment.

Haven't watched Freddy's Dead or New Nightmare yet, although I did see them both many moons ago. I remember Freddy's Dead as being almost unwatchably bad and that was when I was 14, so I'm dreading that one. New Nightmare I remember as being really good, so I'll be intruiged to rewatch that one.

Might give Freddy vs Jason a watch after that, for completist's sake.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 23/7/2009 10:39:50 PM

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Time for a resurrection of this thread...??

New pics from the remake now online:

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I've been criticised on one of the other threads but now we have an inkling of what Freddy looks like, I really do wish they had brought something new to the table regarding his look...

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 23/7/2009 11:25:44 PM

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I've been criticised on one of the other threads but now we have an inkling of what Freddy looks like, I really do wish they had brought something new to the table regarding his look...

Not me I hope! I just don't think they could change him, and not sure why you expected it? To change Freddie's look would alienate and piss off the very people they want to go see this film; the established fanbase. Sure, they'll be wanting to pick up new fans and I'm hoping Haley will deliver, but changing such an iconic figure would be folly. Like putting Darth Vader in a blue costume, or making Indy wear a baseball cap instead!

I like the new pics,nothing new, but suitably eerie and acting as a teaser for the inevitable 'face' reveal in a future trailer.

I bought the Elm St Collection for a tenner last week so will be working my way through 'em.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 23/7/2009 11:41:00 PM

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Those pics are quite strange...

I mean I understand they could not change the look....but maybe something....oh I dont know!!!!

At the moment it looks like I am looking at good old Robert....

Anyway after the dire Friday 13th re-make, my heart is not really excited by this adaption....I hope I am wrong!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 1:09:10 AM

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Its funny this thread was brought back as I just watched them all for the first time. Have to say only number one is anywhere near great. The third one is fun and campy, and I enjoyed the fourth one. The rest are pretty meh - although I thought Freddy in the second film was the best realised version of that character. A remake couldn't be too hard to improve some of this.

a) make Freddy a real threat - in most of the films he was simply a Warner Brothers cartoon, always waiting for the punchline. Make him a real threat.

b) get some damn rules established for this world and how it all works.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 8:53:31 AM

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a) make Freddy a real threat - in most of the films he was simply a Warner Brothers cartoon, always waiting for the punchline. Make him a real threat.

Jeez, that would be a bit too scary

Like when I watched the 1st at the age of about 8. Screwed my mind. But yeah, totally agree. This guy could be the epitomy of evil, and as they're apparently going down the road of actually showing him as a child molester, maybe we'll get it.

We shouldn't be rooting for him, he's the bad guy after all.

Always loved this punchline though:

Freddy confronting girl in alley,

Girl: (sobbing) No, please, please God.

Freddy: (brandishing claws) THIS....is God.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 9:53:30 AM

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Those pics are quite strange...

I mean I understand they could not change the look....but maybe something....oh I dont know!!!!

At the moment it looks like I am looking at good old Robert....

Anyway after the dire Friday 13th re-make, my heart is not really excited by this adaption....I hope I am wrong!

Hughesy has nailed it... That is what I am thinking (but seem incapable of actually writing!

). Also, as for changing Freddy's look - just watch New Nightmare, Craven changed his appearance, glove/hand, stuck him in black leather pants, a long duster coat - he looked fantastic! I'm not saying change his look completely but if Craven can do the job better way back in 1994 then I really do think this remake could have chosen a slightly new look.

I also agree about Freddy being his best incarnation in Elm Street 2. I'm a big fan of the sequel.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 10:37:19 AM

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At the first glimpse of Freddy in New Nightmare, I thought someone else was playing him......

Honestly, Wes needs to take so much credit for that look, it was Freddy but it weren't.... That is why if it wasn't for a quick and weak ending, New Nightmare would rise above the original for me....

As for Freddys Revenge, sorry LostHighway got to disagree with you. One of the worst sequels ever, they moved the basic prinicipe of the dream world and turned it into a possession flick, and well it sucked. The film had so much gay undertones as well, Jessie prancing around in the bedroom, the teacher getting whipped in the showers...hang on

....That is why you love this film in it....

If only Josh was in it and well it would be your perfect flick,

Losthighway watching this flick

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 4:33:36 PM

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At the first glimpse of Freddy in New Nightmare, I thought someone else was playing him......

Honestly, Wes needs to take so much credit for that look, it was Freddy but it weren't.... That is why if it wasn't for a quick and weak ending, New Nightmare would rise above the original for me....

As for Freddys Revenge, sorry LostHighway got to disagree with you. One of the worst sequels ever, they moved the basic prinicipe of the dream world and turned it into a possession flick, and well it sucked. The film had so much gay undertones as well, Jessie prancing around in the bedroom, the teacher getting whipped in the showers...hang on....That is why you love this film in it.... If only Josh was in it and well it would be your perfect flick,

Losthighway watching this flick and that is not a Lightsaber

Alas, I am as transparent as a used dental dam... the gay subtext is indeed why I love Freddy's Revenge so much. However, if that is me then I think I need a trip to the GUM clinic!!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 4:42:55 PM

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I'm not sure you can even call it subtext.

As for the secnd film breaking the rules...well having just watched them I can't see any set in stone rules about how Freddy is suppose to behave. The possession thing has never bothered my. Why a bird suddenly explodes is an altogether different question.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:34:03 PM

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I'm not sure you can even call it subtext.

As for the secnd film breaking the rules...well having just watched them I can't see any set in stone rules about how Freddy is suppose to behave. The possession thing has never bothered my. Why a bird suddenly explodes is an altogether different question.

The bird self-combusts due to the heat in the house as Freddy tries to break through into reality... I also agree wit you about these supposed rules being somewhat flimsy, e.g. Nancy brings Freddy into reality to kill him at the end of the original; so i've never quite understood all the criticism at Part 2, when all they do is basically take the idea to the next level!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:35:38 PM

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I forgot about that bird....

That and the Owl in the Blair Witch sequel are the worst examples of using animals as scare set pieces for the audience.

I know that in Freddy's world, there are no rules. But the dream aspect seemed to have been forgotten in the sequel. Freddy desperate to get in the real world and using Jessie to do it, it did not work for me. We all need to sleep, and by doing what the body craves and it can kill you is one heck of a scary notion, one that the third film, quite rightly turned back to.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:39:18 PM

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I'm not sure you can even call it subtext.

As for the secnd film breaking the rules...well having just watched them I can't see any set in stone rules about how Freddy is suppose to behave. The possession thing has never bothered my. Why a bird suddenly explodes is an altogether different question.

The bird self-combusts due to the heat in the house as Freddy tries to break through into reality... I also agree wit you about these supposed rules being somewhat flimsy, e.g. Nancy brings Freddy into reality to kill him at the end of the original; so i've never quite understood all the criticism at Part 2, when all they do is basically take the idea to the next level!

I have though that. If Freddy was so desperate to get into the real world, then why didn't he just latch on to Jessie and hold him tight until Jessie wakes up, hence he is back to life....no need for this possession lark...

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:45:12 PM

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I have though that. If Freddy was so desperate to get into the real world, then why didn't he just latch on to Jessie and hold him tight until Jessie wakes up, hence he is back to life....no need for this possession lark...

Because, then there would have been no need for the immortal lines:

Grady's bedroom
Jesse: I'm scared, Grady. Something is trying to get inside my body.
Grady: She's female and waiting for you in the cabana. And you wanna sleep with me!

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:54:08 PM

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With lines like that no wonder I have no time for that movie

Did'nt Freddy say something like "I want you in me Jessie"...

Sod it, I've decided that I'm going to watch this flick again. I am looking at the box-set now, one positive note, the art work of Freddys Revenge was pretty cool, and I remember as a kid being in awe at Freddy standing in the middle, with the school bus underneath him....ah!!! childhood memories. You know they don't make them like they used too.

Also even though I prefer Halloween, I am dreading this re-make more than I did Rob Zombies take on Michael. The reason being anyone can play the likes of Myers and Jason, but as he does not have a mask.....I will be going into this flick just thinking of Robert....

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 24/7/2009 5:58:30 PM

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You've got the body and i've got the brains...

Personally Freddy, I'd have gone for Grady - lot better body and a lot nicer looking!

As for the remake, i'm excited and cynical at the same time. I just can't get over how much that teaser poster looked like Robert.

Even the supposed 'better looking' burn tissue didn't look that much different. I'm half expecting the big reveal to be a CGI job and he'll be missing his nose and an eye or something like that!?

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 29/7/2009 11:38:50 AM

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Great poster. Simple, effective, cool.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 29/7/2009 12:05:28 PM

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Does anyone else just adore Dream Warriors? Everything came together for me in that film. The rhyme, the gruesome deaths - especially the tendon puppet one. It still makes me cringe. I remember finding my brother's VHS copy of it when I was about 4 or 5.

I saw that and was terrified out of my tiny little mind. But I couldn't take my eyes off it.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 29/7/2009 12:08:59 PM

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Does anyone else just adore Dream Warriors? Everything came together for me in that film. The rhyme, the gruesome deaths - especially the tendon puppet one. It still makes me cringe. I remember finding my brother's VHS copy of it when I was about 4 or 5.

I saw that and was terrified out of my tiny little mind. But I couldn't take my eyes off it.

Yeah man, I love it, I think I've already said it earlier in this thread but it's actually my favorite of the whole bunch so far, even better than the original. Solid direction, good performances, good story.

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RE: The Nightmare on Elm Street Appreciation Thread - 29/7/2009 1:29:54 PM

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Does anyone else just adore Dream Warriors? Everything came together for me in that film. The rhyme, the gruesome deaths - especially the tendon puppet one. It still makes me cringe. I remember finding my brother's VHS copy of it when I was about 4 or 5.

I saw that and was terrified out of my tiny little mind. But I couldn't take my eyes off it.

Blimey, that cover brings back memories. I remember it being passed around primary school with only a few people willing to take it home. A very chilling part of the Nightmare saga with some memorable deaths.

I can remember fondly the eerie beginning to the film with the words ''sleep those little slices of death, how i loath them''.

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