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RE: Isn't Tin Tin, well, a bit boring for a film? - 20/4/2009 8:04:43 PM   
rich


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If it sucks, I don't think the comic should be blamed.



Who said they should? Fuck them, if this fails the books are still brilliant.


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RE: Isn't Tin Tin, well, a bit boring for a film? - 20/4/2009 8:05:59 PM   
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If it sucks, I don't think the comic should be blamed.



Who said they should? Fuck them, if this fails the books are still brilliant.



Very, very true.

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RE: Isn't Tin Tin, well, a bit boring for a film? - 20/4/2009 8:29:35 PM   
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No one really said the Herge should be blamed, just seemed like a few people felt the comic was beneath Spielberg & Friends, that they shouldn't be wasting their time on something like this.

I was just trying to say that even if the movie version sucks all over the place, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the material.

Or something along those lines. But yeah, Tintin is good stuff.


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RE: RE: - 20/4/2009 11:50:26 PM   
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Well you are right in the middle of the problem, "it's essentially an animated film", and I say no.

Motion Capture is NOT animation.

It's Motion Capture, it's a technology that captures people moving in a green space, it's not animation, and I wish the movie websites could repeat that a bit more often instead of calling everything 3D "animation".

Spielberg has an animation studio, it's called Dreamworks, and he had a way to do it as a real animation project. He also has actors hired to play the roles and could have done a live movie. Instead, he just jumps into the craziness of Mo Cap, and I can already see how they will call it "its first animated movie", when it's not. It's like when they tried to put Boewulf in the line for best animated feature film, I wanted to cry, it's my whole industry which was offended, even Pixar began adding a small thing in their credits :"“Our Quality Assurance Guarantee: 100% Genuine Animation! No motion capture or any other performance shortcuts were used in the production of this film.”

Geez, I guess it was too complicated for him to do a Pixar level movie animated à la mano by a studio of animators and make a REAL animated movie, eh...
This plus Indiana Jones, I can no longer admire him like I used to, and it makes me really sad...


You are of course right and all that, no doubt.
But let's not forget the stylistic similarities that can show up, especially in a case like this, where realism isn't the main goald I presume, and the fact that an intricate part of mainstream animation, at least to my knowledge, is the kind that used rotoscoping and real life foootage to achieve a realism in character i.e. Disney's classic nine ol' men figures.

I'm just saying...

It's an honest mistake to make, and there are similar traits.

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I have high hopes for this project... - 21/4/2009 12:43:52 PM   
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I agree with Rich on this one. Having been raised on the pure cinematic gold that Spielberg is capable of, I really want that guy back for this. Was never a huge fan of the comics but it is a good fundamental building block from which to create a great action adventure on. I was truly appalled by ‘Kingdom of the Crystal Skull’ and it saddened me to see Spielberg produce such a hackish piece of cinema. But I do attribute a large portion of the blame to Lucas on that one and remain faithful that this will be great fun. I think that in terms of spectacle though, the Jackson film will truly deliver. The set pieces he conceived for King Kong were so ambitions that even Weta (as truly outstanding that they are) couldn’t quite pull them all off to a convincing level. So I cannot wait to see what his vision is capable of in this medium.

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RE: CGI sucks - 17/9/2009 3:08:11 PM   
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i'd love to see some stop motion animation for the new district 9 film! its ok with sinbad and classic monsters like that but i'd like to see how some of the ufo and aliens in district 9 would look in stop motion...

saying that, has anyone seen 'Bad Taste' - one of Peter Jacksons very early, very low budget films? Thats about the quality you can expect! I'll take the CGI thanks

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