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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 17/7/2010 10:14:53 PM   
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I love the Long Kiss Goodnight too.

Has anyone seen Knight & Day? It seems that it hasn't done so well stateside. Could very well be a contender for this thread!

Recently picked up Waterworld and Cutthroat island on Blu Ray!

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 17/7/2010 10:57:52 PM   
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I don't accept Waterworlds place on this thread!
It made a significant profit(unlike say Cut throat Island) and it has been popular for the media to say it hasn't.
And it's a decent film!

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 17/7/2010 11:07:43 PM   
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It still flopped though. Even though it's brilliant.

I never saw it in the cinema. I was too young and lived too far out in the sticks at the time, but it's a film I can watch often and not get tired of. I can't understand how it's so disliked. Some sort of backlash perhaps?

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 18/7/2010 8:55:01 PM   
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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 8:44:04 AM   
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It still flopped though. Even though it's brilliant.

I never saw it in the cinema. I was too young and lived too far out in the sticks at the time, but it's a film I can watch often and not get tired of. I can't understand how it's so disliked. Some sort of backlash perhaps?

That depends on how we are defining a "flop".
Eddy Murphy's Pluto Nash=Huge flop,lost a lot of dollars.
Waterworld didn't.
My point,and related to yours,is that there seemed to be some agenda doing the rounds to dimiss Waterworld-it started before it was even released.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 8:55:23 AM   
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I don't think we all need to argue it so much as we're all appreciating it here, we all enjoy it! It failed in the sense that it got slammed by critics and/ or didn't initially make a huge profit. Obviously it went on to make good money though.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 9:23:50 AM   
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Also, how much was advertising and much more profit were they expecting? I can imagine it costing at least another 50 million in advertising.

And surely bringing its money back just isn't enough for some producers, look at Starship Troopers, it is one of the greatest films of all time, made its money back, but it is still considered a flop. 


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 9:24:32 AM   
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Yeah,i just get annoyed when it's lumped in with genuine flops

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 8:50:43 PM   
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According to this book-


Waterworld was considered a flop. And this book covers The Last Action Hero, Ishtar and Cutthroat Island, so it knows its flops


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 9:14:06 PM   
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LAST ACTION HERO was terrible. One can see why it flopped. Lord knows how much was spent on just the marketing of that film. JURASSIC PARK destroyed it.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 19/7/2010 9:40:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Shifty Bench

According to this book-


Waterworld was considered a flop. And this book covers The Last Action Hero, Ishtar and Cutthroat Island, so it knows its flops


Hmmm,i'm still debating the definition of "flop"!
Waterworld made a profit of 90 million dollars(not including video/dvd rentals/sales)-Cut throat Island lost over a 100 million dollars!
Not the same thing!

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 22/7/2010 6:24:36 PM   
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The Rocky films always seemed to break some kind of opening weekend record (For it's time) and i think can be considered in the context of blockbusters so i'm nominating Rocky 5, it has some good moments and was nowhere near as bad as the reviews led me to believe. I don't tink it made much cash either.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 22/7/2010 6:37:54 PM   
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Was Demolition Man considered a flop? I've read here and there that it was, but I watched it again last night and it's fucking great! It's very funny and has some great action scenes. Maybe it was a little ahead of it's time?

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 22/7/2010 6:51:47 PM   
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Was Demolition Man considered a flop? I've read here and there that it was, but I watched it again last night and it's fucking great! It's very funny and has some great action scenes. Maybe it was a little ahead of it's time?

Great film-and not a flop!
It cost 57 million dollars to make.It took 158 million dollars in total and another 25 million dollars in domestic rentals.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 22/7/2010 11:43:53 PM   
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I hear Eyes Wide Shut underperformed. It made 160 million on a 65 million budget. Same with The Mist. According to Box Office Mojo, it cost 18 million and made some 60 million, yet for some reason it is considered by some to have flopped.

I really don't know how these work.

On the bright side, SATC2 made 258 million and is considered a disappointment and maybe we won't see more of it.


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 23/7/2010 1:48:40 AM   
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quote:

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I hear Eyes Wide Shut underperformed. It made 160 million on a 65 million budget. Same with The Mist. According to Box Office Mojo, it cost 18 million and made some 60 million, yet for some reason it is considered by some to have flopped.

I really don't know how these work.

On the bright side, SATC2 made 258 million and is considered a disappointment and maybe we won't see more of it.



Cause it was supposed to make a billion dollars based on people like my missus watching that tripe-she very reluctantly confesses it is crap.
Anyway,any film that makes a profit,isn't a flop.
If it doesn't make x amount as projected,well that is something different alltogether.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 23/7/2010 7:55:57 AM   
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I don't think we all need to argue it so much as we're all appreciating it here, we all enjoy it! It failed in the sense that it got slammed by critics and/ or didn't initially make a huge profit. Obviously it went on to make good money though.


A bit like Howard The Duck! I have no shame whatsoever in admitting to being a massive fan of Howard. Yes it's weird, yes there is a strangely overlooked bestiality nod but it's a bloody good bit of 80s fluff that is still fairly watchable.

I think Lucas said that in 20 years time you wouldn't be able to tell which was the hit movie between Howard and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Compare them and he's not far off the money.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 3/10/2010 9:39:35 PM   
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Just ordered The Golden Compass on Blu Ray as it was cheap on amazon. I've never seen it all the way through before but i think it definitely qualifies for this thread!

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 3/10/2010 10:36:50 PM   
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I thought it was good.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 4/10/2010 4:15:50 AM   
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It might feature the worst editing and narrative I've seen in the last few years.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 1:20:13 PM   
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Three well-made sci-fi films which, IMO, did not deserve their poor business at the box office.


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 1:25:06 PM   
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I LOVED The Island - so much so that I saw it twice at the cinema!



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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 4:47:20 PM   
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Just ordered The Golden Compass on Blu Ray as it was cheap on amazon. I've never seen it all the way through before but i think it definitely qualifies for this thread!


It's impossible to see it all the way through… they didn't film the end of the bloody thing! It simply stops mid scene. The whole bridge to the stars part was completely removed! It's such a fantastic ending to the first book as well, that leaves you wanting the next instalment. There's no climax, emotion or excitement at the end of the film. It's the polar opposite to the book. Why they did that is quite beyond me. One of the biggest missed chances ever. Where that story goes is just insane in terms of imagination, scope and storytelling. In his defence, I do believe the director did say to the studio on many occasions that the task was beyond him. Would have been a herculean, almost LOTR, sized effort to get those three books right… wonder if they'll ever try again.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 4:53:08 PM   
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Were these actually failures… not creatively speaking mind. I personally think, while neither is amazing, they both have enough merit to warrant their existence.  But people talk about them like they were total flops:
 

 


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 5:23:23 PM   
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King Kong did decent (though disappointing) business, but it was hardly a flop.


Also, does Scott Pilgrim vs The World count for this?


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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 5:24:09 PM   
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I don't think King Kong was a failure. OK, it initially failed to live up to its box office estimates, but it DID make a fuckload on returns, as well as being critically acclaimed....

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 5:43:22 PM   
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quote:

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King Kong did decent (though disappointing) business, but it was hardly a flop.


Also, does Scott Pilgrim vs The World count for this?


I would say so.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 7/10/2010 7:21:18 PM   
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KING KONG was not a 'failed blockbuster'. No Way.

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 9/10/2010 8:58:49 PM   
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Three well-made sci-fi films which, IMO, did not deserve their poor business at the box office.

all fantastic films!!

Demolition Man is brilliant too! and Starship Troopers (on HD Blu-Ray its gorgeous to watch and the FX hold their own amongst much more modern films)

I was so p*ssed at the Golden Compass because I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and then found out due to U.S. Box Office losses (internationally it did good business) the U.S. investors behind it, did not want to make the next 2 films (books) in the series :(

considering the Golden Compass did not have a proper "ending" as it was a setup for the next 2 films, it very disappointing to watch

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RE: THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 24/3/2011 12:13:33 PM   
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Hello all, how about this doozy:







Great visual FX! It got completely slated so surely qualifies? Although due to a low budget i believe it was a solid financial success.

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