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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 12/3/2009 5:13:58 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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I must have switched off very early then.


no offence Tech but i think you've stumbled into the wrong thread then mate


If there's pictures of Gabrielle Union it's never a wrong thread.


then get back on Bad Boys 2 dude!!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 12/3/2009 5:15:22 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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You should give it another go Tech and get your mind blown.

The Shootout in the Haitians house is immense and an awesome piece of direction from Bay...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUZ9qAOaN5Q&feature=related






yeah totally, that's one of my all time favourite Bay scenes. Even the Bay haters have gotta admit that his choice of camerawork in that scene is simply inspired!!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 12/3/2009 7:16:09 PM   
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This is probably my biggest guilty pleasure. I feel kind of bad for liking it because it's a total bastardisation of a great graphic novel but it's just too damn enjoyable. It looks gorgeous as well and Jason Flemyng is pretty tasty looking in a serial killer sort of way so it's not all bad. I love Peta Wilson in it too, it's a shame that she looks pretty trampy in real life.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 12/3/2009 7:24:12 PM   
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see it's probably for the best that i've not read the GN. Love the movie so much!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 12/3/2009 9:17:47 PM   
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Great movie but got shit reviews, god bless Royal Mail.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 12:57:06 AM   
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back to Stealth for a brief moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwm3rjgWUcY&feature=related

Aaaaaaaaaah that felt good .

Not seen The Postman in many years dude! Need to rewatch

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 3:51:53 AM   
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I loved Pearl Harbor, the R rated version is way better than the one shown in the theaters, an entirely different movie. Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie, it's a little cheesy but it's a good kind of cheese. The attack on Pear Harbor had some cool special effects. The ending was very touching too.

Failed blockbuster? Titanic? I am seeing this right? The number one movie of all time is a failure? The movie that inspired Leo Mania? jewelry companies to handcraft replicas of the Heart of the Ocean around the world? themed cruises and parties? A failure? Sure there were a lot of problems during filming in Mexico. Half the set got washed away, the cast and crew got their food laced with LSD by someone. The cast got a bad flu, James Cameron fired some people (he's a perfectionist) but the movie itself is very good. Winner of 11 Oscars, including Best Picture. I could only go see it once because it was so heartbreaking.

Kingdom of Heaven is another movie I enjoyed. This is one of the few movies that I really liked Orlando Bloom in. The cast is great as well, Liam Neeson, Jeremy Irons, Eva Green even Edward Norton are great in it. Also the Iranian actor who plays Salidad is very good. SPOILERS****** It's not your typical ending but it fits within the story. Also very topical within today's world. Again though Ridley Scott's extended version of this on DVD is a way better movie, there's a different story line involving Sybilla and other characters and the plot holes in the theater version are filled in to make it an epic.

Demolition Man is a fun movie. Some of the lines in it are hilarious between Sandra Bullock and Sylvester Stallone like this one. SPOILERS*******
Also people get FINED if they swear, they can't have human contact, the cars basically drive themselves, the so-called "sex scene", the restaurant wars. Arnold Schwarzenegger is President here. Dennis Leary's profanity mouthed rebel just adds to the fun.
" Let's go blow this guy." Sandra
" Away, blow this guy away." Sylvester
" Whatever". Sandra

I nominate Troy: (don't have a picture though)
Brad Pitt as Achilles, Eric Bana as Hector. Both do very well with their parts, Orlando Bloom as Paris. Brendan Gleeson as Menaleus, Brian Cox as Agamemnon,Sean Bean as Odysseus, Diane Kruger as Helen of Troy, Rose Byrne as Briseus, and acting great Peter O'Toole as Priam. Great cast all around. Great fight scenes (especially between Achilles and Hector) Interesting characters (Pitt has a lot of fun as Achilles) (Cox revels in playing Agamemnon) Beautiful costumes, set designs, cool special effects as well. Probably the reason for the failure is because
SPOILERS**** the ending is not exactly a satisfying one and Orlando Bloom plays such a wimp you just want to hit him with something. You root for Pitt and Bana but Bloom (at least for me) got a bit grating Again though the Director's Cut of this movie is much better than the PG-13 version.




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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 7:42:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

I loved Pearl Harbor, the R rated version is way better than the one shown in the theaters, an entirely different movie. Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie, it's a little cheesy but it's a good kind of cheese. The attack on Pear Harbor had some cool special effects. The ending was very touching too.




Yay! Always happy to watch Pear Harbor.



I might be alone in this but I do have a lot of time for...







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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 8:32:31 AM   
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Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie


Except for one REALLY big error....

Right


Wrong




< Message edited by DazDaMan -- 13/3/2009 8:35:35 AM >


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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:36:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

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ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie


Except for one REALLY big error....

Right


Wrong





Aaah,so THAT'S what was wrong with Pearl Harbour...

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:40:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rubadub

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ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

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ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie


Except for one REALLY big error....

Right


Wrong





Aaah,so THAT'S what was wrong with Pearl Harbour...


Well that, and it was written by Randall Wallace, of Braveheart fame...

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:44:46 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

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ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie


Except for one REALLY big error....

Right


Wrong





my friend who is big on his ships says that the naval battleships are also the wrong ones and too modern. I'm inclined to believe him as in the making of, we see how the crew got to use the already existing ships. ie, ships that the navy still used in 2000/ 2001

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:47:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

quote:

ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

Director Michael Bay did lots of research for this movie


Except for one REALLY big error....

Right


Wrong





my friend who is big on his ships says that the naval battleships are also the wrong ones and too modern. I'm inclined to believe him as in the making of, we see how the crew got to use the already existing ships. ie, ships that the navy still used in 2000/ 2001


Now, see, that I can live with.  I'm all for using what's available (I don't mind the use of incorrect aircraft of cars or ships etc), but something so fundamental as the above....

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:48:58 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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yeah well he hates Pearl Harbor and i always defend that particular criticism for the very reason youve mentioned. If the ships are there to be used, USE THEM!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 6:57:07 PM   
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The second thread over two days where this particular film has come up and once again I'm gonna defend it,Pearl Harbour is big,corny entertainment of the best kind,and even those who hate the acting [I don't mind it except for Ben Affleck] or the script  [which is actually deliberately like a 40s film] must admit the bombing sequence is incredible.  Agree with the poster that the director's cut is far better.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 7:01:30 PM   
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Ahh, the director's cut! 

I must admit I picked up the three-disc boxed set when it came out (already had the two-disc!), and seeing it was rated "15" I thought "Fuckin' A!"

However, it's still the "12"-rated film - only the extras have the full carnage intact (and The Bay warning his film crew that the explosives on the ships will "blow you the fuck up!" if they get too close).  A tad disappointing.  Was the R-rated version ever released in the UK?

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 7:11:55 PM   
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I got the R1 version of the director's cut when it first came out in the US as I couldn't wait,I assumed that the later UK release of it was the same,but obviously it wasn't.  Hardly the director's cut then!   It seems like the R rated version has indeed never been released over here at all

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 7:14:26 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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the fantastic R1 4 disc directors cut is by far my all time favourite DVD. It's easily one of the most comprehensive dvd's out there on the market. Unfortunately, like King Kong DC the movie is spread over 2 discs, but this is only a minor flaw.

The only major difference between both versions of the movie is violence and gore. For the DC, Bay had the ILM guys go in and add loads of CG gore and grue. It's really well done (like all of the FX in the movie) and certainly packs more of a punch overall.

It was never released in the UK i'm afraid.

I truly believe that if, technology allowing, Pearl Harbor had been made in 50's it would be hailed as a classic. Like Lenera said, the script is deliberately of the 40's era. People just don't get it. Especially all the film snobs who think they know it all

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 7:56:22 PM   
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Ssshh,but i think that if it hadn't been butchered by the studio into incomprehensible bollocks,THE AVENGERS might have been good. Still have a little love though,ssshh..

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 13/3/2009 11:02:23 PM   
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Ah,1998,the summer of the underwhelming yet strangely likeable blockbuster. The Avengers,Godzilla,Lost In Space.. 

Anyway,a year later ( no,not The Phantom Menace ),i'll see your Avengers,and raise you..

WILD WILD WEST !!! Sorry,WICKY WICKY WILD WILD WEST !!!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 14/3/2009 5:03:45 AM   
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Ah,1998,the summer of the underwhelming yet strangely likeable blockbuster. The Avengers,Godzilla,Lost In Space.. 



Great fun to watch this, its reputation is undeserved.


I bought Stealth today, not seen it for a while, time to appreciate it once more

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 14/3/2009 8:14:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf


quote:

ORIGINAL: ADRIAN MOORE

Ah,1998,the summer of the underwhelming yet strangely likeable blockbuster. The Avengers,Godzilla,Lost In Space.. 



Great fun to watch this, its reputation is undeserved.


I bought Stealth today, not seen it for a while, time to appreciate it once more


Yeah, I've not had a Biel fix for a while....





Aww yeah!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 16/3/2009 4:01:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf


quote:

ORIGINAL: ADRIAN MOORE

Ah,1998,the summer of the underwhelming yet strangely likeable blockbuster. The Avengers,Godzilla,Lost In Space.. 



Great fun to watch this, its reputation is undeserved.


I bought Stealth today, not seen it for a while, time to appreciate it once more


And did it deliver once again?

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 16/3/2009 5:43:06 PM   
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Beat that!


yay!

I love Jaws the Revenge.

Whats not to love about a shark that roars!

Whats not to love about a shark that sees flashbacks of events that it wasnt around to see.

whats not to love about the fact that the shark blows up at the end of the film for no apparent reason.

Did I mention the shark roars?

Whats not to love about the fact that the sibling of the original shark follows Roy Scheiders wife accross a continent in some mad stalking scenario of fish on human.

Also, I love the fact that a main character gets eaten alive but due to test audiences loving the character, they bring him back in the final scene with no explanantion as to how he survived.

This film has it all!

Also a big thumbs up to the Hudson Hawke shout out!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 20/3/2009 4:51:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf


quote:

ORIGINAL: ADRIAN MOORE

Ah,1998,the summer of the underwhelming yet strangely likeable blockbuster. The Avengers,Godzilla,Lost In Space.. 



Great fun to watch this, its reputation is undeserved.


I bought Stealth today, not seen it for a while, time to appreciate it once more


And did it deliver once again?



It did. It's pure bonkers, I loved it

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 3/6/2009 2:32:25 PM   
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I wonder if Terminator Salvation will fulfil the criteria? The more it gets slated, the more i wanna like it!


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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 3/6/2009 2:42:55 PM   
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Howard the Duck - say whatever you like about it, I've enjoyed it since I was a kid. Jeffrey Jones is creepy as hell.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 3/6/2009 6:46:01 PM   
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Howard the Duck - say whatever you like about it, I've enjoyed it since I was a kid. Jeffrey Jones is creepy as hell.


From what i gather,you had good reason to fear Jeffrey Jones when you were a kid...

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 3/6/2009 9:43:57 PM   
Dr Lenera

 

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I've always enjoyed Howard The Duck too,always makes me chuckle,the way it has the appearance of a kiddie film but is full of sometimes really dodgy sexual references! Yeah,I went and bought the DVD the first day it was released here,I'm that sad!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 4/6/2009 11:32:06 AM   
Karl Crutchley


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Think we need to see more love for this undeservedly failed gem

"He's going to be very good..."





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