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THE FAILED BLOCKBUSTERS APPRECIATION THREAD! - 11/3/2009 12:06:23 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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I love me some failed blockbusters. I have a thing (bizarrely) for movies that had ridiculous sums of money spent on them, but just failed hugely at the box office. These are usually the ones that most people think are crap, but IMO there are so many gems. So i make this thread for anyone who has a soft spot for a much maligned big budget movie that either sank without trace or did ok/ good but was/ is generally hated.

Some of my favourites are:


'The power of seven become a league of one' - But also unfortunately a movie nobody wanted to see. I'm a big LXG fan. This is mostly due to the gorgeous Carol Spier production design, but it's a lot of fun with some crazy action sequences and FX and fun performances all round.

'Adventure Lives Forever' - Well that's a relief, i was worried it was only temporary. Despite many, many, many flaws Van Helsing is also a favourite of mine. Again i love the production design (this could be a running theme in all of my favourite failed blockbusters) and FX (cheesy CGI abound). This movie is just basically crazy and manic and barely takes a breather.

'The legend, the battle, the first hero' - well that sounds lame, but i really love the movie. It's a great adventure and has some incredible FX and scale, particularly the last half hour. It coulda done with a bit more action throughout but what the hey, still love it.

If you're still reading by this point, frankly WOW! I know i'm treading on thin ice but i am really fond of Stealth. It has incredible action scenes and is full of 100% fresh fromage. It also has one of the best explosions EVER.

So please join in. I know there are at least a few of you out there who love maligned cheesefest 'blockbusters'!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:11:00 PM   
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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:13:03 PM   
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YES!!! How on earth could i forget? Waterworld is one of my favourite movies. Good call!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:13:23 PM   
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Except for the cgi wolves. WTF?

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:16:45 PM   
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I love it and will defend it till the end of time.


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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:22:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

quote:

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YES!!! How on earth could i forget? Waterworld is one of my favourite movies. Good call!



I've never understood the hatred. I've forced quite a few of my bandwagon jumping mates to watch it. Mostly they loved it^^^^

  Dirivative bollocks but very entertaining 

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:36:32 PM   
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Singlehandedly, the worst example of a 'failed blockbuster' ever.

Yeah, it made NO money. Same with Forrest Gump......

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 12:59:52 PM   
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Gotta agree on Waterworld, brilliant action-adventure film, and I haven't seen it in ages!
I do have a soft spot for Stealth, too.  It has some decent action sequences in it (and THAT explosion!) - plus, Biel in a bikini is never a bad thing!
I kind of have a hard time with Van Helsing, though.  I really enjoyed it at the cinema (I went to see it twice!), but on subsequent DVD viewings...

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:05:36 PM   
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Waterworld didn't flop. Common error, it actually made all it's money back. It's just because it was, at the time, the most expensive film made, that it was expected to make more than it did......

But for my money, all these box office underperformers deserve sequels and wider recognition;

Serenity
Sahara
Deep Rising


Also, almost all of benny's choices (apart from Speed Racer) didn't fail at the box office.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:05:41 PM   
benny the jet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

quote:

ORIGINAL: benny the jet



Singlehandedly, the worst example of a 'failed blockbuster' ever.

Yeah, it made NO money. Same with Forrest Gump......



I'm aware they made a shit load of money. I was answering the question from a" Much maligned" & " generally hated" point of view which was another part of the thread question. Although feel free to patronise a bit more if you feel the need

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:08:25 PM   
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Ah I see what you did there....

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:11:04 PM   
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I see your point though. I will delete if they are deemed inappropriate



Edit- just re-read my last post. It sounded quite arsey. Apologies Timon, my sarcastic tone does not translate well in text i guess

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:12:08 PM   
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quote:

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Waterworld didn't flop. Common error, it actually made all it's money back. It's just because it was, at the time, the most expensive film made, that it was expected to make more than it did......



According to Wiki:

quote:

With a budget of $175 million, the film grossed a mere $88 million at the U.S. box office, which seemed to be the all time box office bomb.

The film did however do much better overseas, with $176 million at the foreign box office (for a total of $264 million)[5], and good VHS and later DVD sales




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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:16:08 PM   
Timon


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So I'm right! It made all it's money back at the box office!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:18:57 PM   
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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 1:27:00 PM   
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So I'm right! It made all it's money back at the box office!


Well yeah, but aren't films meant to make X-amount over their budget in order to be considered a hit, or to break even?

I can never remember!

Anyway, depending on your definition of "failed", I'm going to nominate....





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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:23:48 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

quote:

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So I'm right! It made all it's money back at the box office!


Well yeah, but aren't films meant to make X-amount over their budget in order to be considered a hit, or to break even?

I can never remember!

Anyway, depending on your definition of "failed", I'm going to nominate....






YOU GO! I absolutely love Pearl Harbor. Plus it pretty much has the best 40 mins or so of the best action in any movie ever.

Re: Titanic. I'm not so sure it qualifies. Maybe it won too many oscars to qualify! Surely if a movie wins even one oscar (unless it's for FX) it has been recognised as 'quality' to a degree. Titanic is more snubbed in 'movie buff' circles. But hey don't delete it, this is what the fun of discussion is all about!!



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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:28:05 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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oh and just to clarify what i define 'failed' as:

It has to have either flopped at the cinema (pretty much all movies end up making their money back on DVD generally)

Or it can be a success, but is generally hated. When i say generally hated, i don't just mean on these forums. If it has won oscars, well i'd say that could be considered very successful by many.

And to add to the thread:



Another one of my favourites

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:38:05 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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i just had to do a double take then. It looks like she's riding a jet ski!!!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:38:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

oh and just to clarify what i fine 'failed' as:

It has to have either flopped at the cinema (pretty much all movies end up making their money back on DVD generally)

Or it can be a success, but is generally hated. When i say generally hated, i don't just mean on these forums.


I'll go with that.  Though I hesitate to add one of my faves.... ('cos I KNOW everyone will hate it! )

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:47:41 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

oh and just to clarify what i fine 'failed' as:

It has to have either flopped at the cinema (pretty much all movies end up making their money back on DVD generally)

Or it can be a success, but is generally hated. When i say generally hated, i don't just mean on these forums.


I'll go with that.  Though I hesitate to add one of my faves.... ('cos I KNOW everyone will hate it! )


even better! I'll probably love it lol. Add it!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:49:28 PM   
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I love, love, LOVE Cutthroat Island.  What's not to like about it? 

I have to put into the mix this one




If for no other reason than it's bugging me what you're supposed to do with those sea shells.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:52:01 PM   
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I remember renting Cutthroat Island out back in the day... and really enjoying it. Perhaps an Appreciation Thread is in order....

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 3:56:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

oh and just to clarify what i fine 'failed' as:

It has to have either flopped at the cinema (pretty much all movies end up making their money back on DVD generally)

Or it can be a success, but is generally hated. When i say generally hated, i don't just mean on these forums.


I'll go with that.  Though I hesitate to add one of my faves.... ('cos I KNOW everyone will hate it! )


even better! I'll probably love it lol. Add it!


You asked for it!



Beat that!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:00:45 PM   
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*whispers* Beat what Daz?

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:03:46 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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I love, love, LOVE Cutthroat Island.  What's not to like about it? 

I have to put into the mix this one




If for no other reason than it's bugging me what you're supposed to do with those sea shells.


Now isn't DM liked by quite a few? (I may be wrong here!). I thought it also set the box office alight! Of course i was much younger then so my memories are slightly hazy.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:03:56 PM   
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*whispers* Beat what Daz?




THAT!

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:04:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

oh and just to clarify what i fine 'failed' as:

It has to have either flopped at the cinema (pretty much all movies end up making their money back on DVD generally)

Or it can be a success, but is generally hated. When i say generally hated, i don't just mean on these forums.


I'll go with that.  Though I hesitate to add one of my faves.... ('cos I KNOW everyone will hate it! )


even better! I'll probably love it lol. Add it!


You asked for it!



Beat that!


ha ha yeah! awesome. I must confess i've only seen it a couple of times, but good choice

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:07:31 PM   
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I believe this made OK money but not enough for Roland and Devlin to go forth with their proposed Godzilla trilogy. Everyone seems to hate it but fantastic FX which hold up to today really elevate it. Jean Reno is also funny in it. Maria Pitillo is freaking awful mind you.

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RE: The Failed Blockbusters Appreciation Thread - 11/3/2009 4:10:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Funkyrae

I love, love, LOVE Cutthroat Island.  What's not to like about it? 

I have to put into the mix this one




If for no other reason than it's bugging me what you're supposed to do with those sea shells.


Now isn't DM liked by quite a few? (I may be wrong here!). I thought it also set the box office alight! Of course i was much younger then so my memories are slightly hazy.


I'm only going by the reaction I get from most of my friends when I mention that I like it.  The same kind of look that you normally get when you know you've stepped in dog crap.  And yeah, it did get that magical over $100million worldwide figure, but I have to say that when I usually mention Demolition Man I tend to find myself defending it.  Along with:





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