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Best actor-turned-director? - 3/3/2009 10:44:14 PM   
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Any other candidates except for Clint?

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 4/3/2009 3:39:32 PM   
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I could be wrong but wasn't Woody Allen a actor before he started directing, like wasn't he in Casino Royalo before his first film as Director came out.  He's a strong candaite. 

Robert Redford has also done strong work on both sides of the lens, not least in Quiz Show.

How about Warren Beatty? haven't seen all his films as Director, but loved his take on Dick Tracy and also Bulworth.

And based on his only film so far (Pollock) Ed Harris could have quite a filmmaking career ahead of him.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 4/3/2009 4:39:15 PM   
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Mel Gibson

He could probably direct a better Mad Max IV than George Miller. It would definitely be edgier and bleaker than The Road Warrior.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 4/3/2009 8:25:42 PM   
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 he's not prolific enough to be truly great yet, but tom mccarthy, director of the station agent and the visitor, and winner of this years independent spirit award for best director is a fairly prolific actor. he's a significant character in the final season of the wire too, which surprised me greatly when i found that out recently, as i hadnt put two and two together.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 4/3/2009 8:27:42 PM   
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 oh, and on the strength of gone baby gone alone, affleck is a better director than he is an actor.

clint is pretty much the king tho.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 3:17:53 PM   
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We'll have to wait and see on him though.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 3:31:00 PM   
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 Stallone's pretty competent as a director.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 3:48:38 PM   
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 sean penn's done decent films so far.

Also Kevin Costner, Jon Favreau, George Clooney and Ron Howard.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 4:03:49 PM   
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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 6:08:22 PM   
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clint eastwood is a great example of an actor come director

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 6:09:43 PM   
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mel gibson another great actor come directore- braveheart, passion of christ, apocalipto

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 6/3/2009 6:10:42 PM   
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also gibson's films are a lttle different to most directors, he involves other languages e.g. Apocalipto

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 7/3/2009 12:10:35 AM   
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 Gibson is a fucking awful, with his only decent film being Apocalypto. Anyway, I think Clooney made some good films, and so did Penn....

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 7/3/2009 11:19:38 AM   
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sydney pollack.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 8/3/2009 11:33:32 AM   
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And based on his only film so far (Pollock) Ed Harris could have quite a filmmaking career ahead of him.


He made Appaloosa last year. Haven't seen it, but it got above average reviews, so might be worth checking out

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 8/3/2009 9:01:51 PM   
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Gibson is a fucking awful, with his only decent film being Apocalypto.


The man has an original voice, like it or not, he makes unique films.


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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 8/3/2009 10:47:09 PM   
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Clint's clearly in a league of his own. Gibson's also a fine director but he has the subtlety of a bull elephant.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 9/3/2009 5:05:51 PM   
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Gibson is a fucking awful, with his only decent film being Apocalypto.


The man has an original voice, like it or not, he makes unique films.




Apocalypto is his most original film and that was no different to any other action film. It simply had Mayas in it. The Passion is yet another Jesus story, degraded and made appaling by focusing on just the violence proving itself as an insult to any decent minded Catholic on the planet and showing all the problems in the Bible. It added nothing new to the Christ story (it could have, but pornographic violence was more important), and it portrayed just bigotry with no spirituality whatsoever, qwhich is surpsing when considering an aetheist did a Jesus film with much more thought, sensibility, intelligence on the subject and spirituality. Braveheart was no different to any other epic ever made.

I do like the way he uses the native language, but by simply changing the language they speak in the film doesn'ty make the film unqiue in any way.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 6:20:55 PM   
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I think Clint Eastwood is better as a director than an actor, but he's great at both for sure.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 6:28:16 PM   
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Disagree. Clint acting, but not directing is Dollars trilogy, Dirty Harry, The Beguiled.
Clint directing but not acting is Bird, Mystic River, Changeling. While the lower group is great, the above group is better...


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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 8:54:33 PM   
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 Clooney is building up a fine body of work.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 9:03:05 PM   
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Argh. Sorry Miles. I feel really bad because every time that I post I seem to be disagreeing with you lately! I'm not stalking you, honestly! However, I'm going to disagree with you again.

I think that Clint is a very good actor. An underrated one to some extent. He has a gravitas and authority that few actors can match today. Yet, I think it is easy to confuse acting prowess with star-power and Clint's screen presence relies heavily on the latter too. Clint is iconic and, as prime examples, both the Dollars trilogy and Dirty Harry films tap into this. They're great roles rather than necessarily great performances. Still very good, mind.

Eastwood the director is far more accomplished. His films demonstrate a rare grace and maturity that succeed in exploring layered themes with assurance, wit and humanity. He has the ability to draw the very best out of his actors and his handling of female characters is second-to-none in Hollywood today. His films are great to look at too.

You try to make a case with three films either side but to Bird, Mystic River and Changeling you can add the magnificent Letters From Iwo Jima and the quirky Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil. And that's missing out the films that Eastwood directed himself in; which include his three best films. Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales and, a controversial choice but a criminally overlooked one, A Perfect World. Add to those the likes of Play Misty For Me, Pale Rider, White Hunter, Black Heart, Million Dollar Baby and, of course, Gran Torino and you have a truly great body of work.

In terms of crossover from super-stardom to directorial excellence, it puts Eastwood up there with Charlie Chaplin.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 9:07:43 PM   
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There's nothing wrong with star power. Bogart was dependant on it.
And don't worry Harry, I'm not offended Eastwood is the greatest living American filmmaker, IMHO.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 9:37:17 PM   
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There's nothing wrong with star power. Bogart was dependant on it.
And don't worry Harry, I'm not offended Eastwood is the greatest living American filmmaker, IMHO.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

I certainly wouldn't say Bogart was dependent on star power though. Like Eastwood, he had it in abundance. And like Eastwood, it was sometimes hard to define where the persona ended and the acting began. However, anybody who has seen Rick Blaine's heart silently shattering in Casablanca, Fred Dobbs descend into greed fuelled madness in The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre and Dix Steele explode into a murderous rage in In A Lonely Place will know that Bogart was so much more than just a chain-smoking tough guy who looked good in a raincoat.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 23/3/2009 9:46:35 PM   
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Argh. Sorry Miles. I feel really bad because every time that I post I seem to be disagreeing with you lately! I'm not stalking you, honestly! However, I'm going to disagree with you again.

I think that Clint is a very good actor. An underrated one to some extent. He has a gravitas and authority that few actors can match today. Yet, I think it is easy to confuse acting prowess with star-power and Clint's screen presence relies heavily on the latter too. Clint is iconic and, as prime examples, both the Dollars trilogy and Dirty Harry films tap into this. They're great roles rather than necessarily great performances. Still very good, mind.

Eastwood the director is far more accomplished. His films demonstrate a rare grace and maturity that succeed in exploring layered themes with assurance, wit and humanity. He has the ability to draw the very best out of his actors and his handling of female characters is second-to-none in Hollywood today. His films are great to look at too.

You try to make a case with three films either side but to Bird, Mystic River and Changeling you can add the magnificent Letters From Iwo Jima and the quirky Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil. And that's missing out the films that Eastwood directed himself in; which include his three best films. Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales and, a controversial choice but a criminally overlooked one, A Perfect World. Add to those the likes of Play Misty For Me, Pale Rider, White Hunter, Black Heart, Million Dollar Baby and, of course, Gran Torino and you have a truly great body of work.

In terms of crossover from super-stardom to directorial excellence, it puts Eastwood up there with Charlie Chaplin.


Excellent post. When you list all his films like that it shows his directorial output is as good as anyone's today. There's probably not a filmmaker who has been so consistently excellent in the last few years. Although i have only watched half of Gran Torino and was a little disappointed with Changeling.

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RE: Best actor-turned-director? - 24/3/2009 10:46:34 AM   
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And based on his only film so far (Pollock) Ed Harris could have quite a filmmaking career ahead of him.


He made Appaloosa last year. Haven't seen it, but it got above average reviews, so might be worth checking out


I thought Pollock really had some merit. It was a brave calling-card film for a director. Sadly I felt that Appaloosa was an extremely pedestrian piece of cinema. There were brief flashes of over achievement in performance and character but I found little or no inspiration from Harris' direction.

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