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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 4:57:21 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 5:05:09 PM   
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I hadn't realised he was captain - and it seems like decades ago he left Rangers.

And I still think the opinion on Le Corbeau is a tad more relevant

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 5:20:01 PM   
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And that's how you play "Get the Guests".

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966, Nichols)
What a film. A symphony of rage, in which not a single note is without a purpose. It's like a fencing match with words, interspersed by mad laughter and ice clinking in glasses full of alcohol. The performances are astounding, the script peerless, the cinematography and the score perfect. Darkly humorous at times, but utterly tragic at others, and despite the forcefulness of the performances, the tragedy is not melodramatic at all. I haven't read the play, but I understand the film is very faithful to it. Despite that, it feels like a real film rather than just filmed theatre. The film was groundbreaking for its time, of course, but the raw power remains to this day. 9

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 2:11:53 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 2:36:02 PM   
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And that's how you play "Get the Guests".

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966, Nichols)
What a film. A symphony of rage, in which not a single note is without a purpose. It's like a fencing match with words, interspersed by mad laughter and ice clinking in glasses full of alcohol. The performances are astounding, the script peerless, the cinematography and the score perfect. Darkly humorous at times, but utterly tragic at others, and despite the forcefulness of the performances, the tragedy is not melodramatic at all. I haven't read the play, but I understand the film is very faithful to it. Despite that, it feels like a real film rather than just filmed theatre. The film was groundbreaking for its time, of course, but the raw power remains to this day. 9


'course it could have been improved by employing an actress as the lead - what a joke of an Oscar winner this film is IMO.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 2:42:52 PM   
Miles Messervy 007


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I haven't seen Taylor in much but she was brilliant in this. What are you on about?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 2:53:38 PM   
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Yeah, what's wrong with Taylor in this movie?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 3:00:54 PM   
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The same as most of her others - she's a fairly mediocre actress who was always cast way above her talent because she was a stunningly beautiful woman. That she chose to spend some of her time in heavy theatrical adaptations simply made the problem clearer IMO.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 7/7/2010 3:57:11 PM   
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Koyaanisqatsi (1982, Reggio)
Great stuff. Even though the point it's trying to make isn't presented in an especially deep way, and isn't that deep to begin with, it may be even more relevant now than ever. As for the form, it's incredible. Glass' soundtrack fits the images perfectly (though perhaps in some of the 'nature' scenes the sounds of nature would have been more suitable). And the images themselves, shot by Fricke (which means I now want to see not only Powaqqatsi, but also Baraka for sure) are incredible. Time-lapse and slow-motion aren't particularly groundbreaking techniques (hell, every ad nowadays uses those), but the way they're shot, and considering what's being shot, they achieve the perfect frantic rhythm that is required. I'm happy that a film without any dialogue whatsoever could succeed and become quite well known. Quite an experience. 9


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Sunset Blvd. - 4/11/2010 12:07:35 AM   
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Bump, and one of my biggest cinematic blindspots cleared:
"There's nothing tragic about being fifty. Not unless you're trying to be twenty-five."

Sunset Blvd. (1950, Wilder)
One of those films the reputation of which precedes it. I knew in advance about the beyond-the-grave narration, I knew the famous lines ("the close-up", "I am big", "we had faces), and as a consequence, I had enormous expectations (well, I am a staunch Wilder defender, for one thing). Did it fulfil those? Yes and no, to give a complete and honest answer.
This is pretty much a perfect film. Each actor brings something different to the table - with Swanson, it's the amazing contrast between grandeur and vulnerability, with Holden, it's coolness in the face of patheticness, with Olson, it's inimitable navete, and with Stroheim, the best of the amazing bunch, it's the deep lament for and devotion to the time that has passed never to return.
The script is also legendary as implied above, and it's wholly deserved. It's biting but is brilliant at putting on mink gloves for some scenes. Here comes my first and pretty much final criticism. Because Sunset Blvd. makes us feel for the characters while hating the circumstances, it doesn't go all out. It's so perfect it seems overly polished. Compare it to Ace in the Hole, which Wilder made without Brackett the next year, and which is an unrestrained acerbic attack with not a single sympathetic character (OK, maybe the trapped miner himself and his parents, but how much screen-time do they actually have?), and it seems soft, which is a word I never thought I'd use with Wilder (after all my favourite of his films is his most life-affirming one).
Now let's go back to the positives. The cinematography is brilliant, single-handedly refuting anyone who claims Wilder didn't have a visual sense. We feel the dust in the air of the enormous mansion, the feeling of claustrophobia in the opulent mansion, and this is in no small part due to Seitz's work (though Holden can take part of the credit, offering us two perspectives on the scenes simultaneously).
The editing is also superb, natural, and modern in feel, with no horrible "punchline editing" which lets down so many films of the period. The music is also good though it's used overdramatically a few times (which is probably the only other flaw of the film).
And the cameos! The visit to DeMille's studio is simply sublime and the "wax works", particularly Keaton, provide a wonderful poignancy despite not doing much.
All in all, I really didn't know what to rate this, but writing this down helped. It's definitely a 9 rather than an 8, simply because it goes beyond being about Hollywood and becomes a film about the need to be loved, nostalgia, and human ambition in general, and there are about 20 excellent scenes and no bad ones. I can't say it's one of my favourite Wilders though, since 4 of those I've seen speak more to me on a gut level.

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RE: Sunset Blvd. - 4/11/2010 12:10:55 AM   
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When I saw this on the front page I clicked in to ask how the hell you were defining your horror films!

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RE: Sunset Blvd. - 4/11/2010 12:18:43 AM   
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Having sex with Norma Desmond must have been a horrible experience What do you think (not of having sex with Norma Desmond)?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 2:45:08 AM   
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It's going to be two years since I joined Empire later on today, so bump for no reason (though I can review stuff if you want me to)

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 4:58:58 AM   
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Review something you publicity-seeking whore.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 9:23:21 AM   
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Review something you publicity-seeking whore.

Yeah. Watch The Quiet Man, it's awesome.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 12:01:26 PM   
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Review Schwarzenegger's back catalogue.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 9:15:55 PM   
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Review something you publicity-seeking whore.

Yeah. Watch The Quiet Man, it's awesome.

Shut up, both of you.


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Review Schwarzenegger's back catalogue.

I like the sound of that, I'm gonna bump Total Recall up in my queue.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:07:55 PM   
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Review Charles Bronson's back catalogue instead.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:23:20 PM   
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Once Upon a Time in the West - OMG
The Magnificent Seven - it's good
Death Wish - it's OK
Death Wish II - it's not OK
Death Wish 3 - omgwannasee

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:28:47 PM   
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But what about The Mechanic? Chato's Land? Hard Times? The Indian Runner? Mr. Majestyk? 10 to Midnight?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:29:40 PM   
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You got me there. I do like him, so will see all those some day...
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:34:01 PM   
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Watch the 'Bronsonville' clip from the Simpsons instead, before watching Commando, End of Days, Raw Deal and Commando.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:38:25 PM   
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If you're going to watch Mark Lester films then watch Class of 1984, then Bobbie Joe and the Outlaw (for topless Wonder Woman yayness) before Commando

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:40:26 PM   
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Ignore rawlinson, Miles. 

As far as I'm aware, none of those films feature Arnie feeding a deer.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:41:42 PM   
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Wonder Woman topless or Arnie feeding a deer...

what a difficult decision.

Anyway, Class of 1984 is the most awesome.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:43:29 PM   
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His filmography actually sounds really fun, like that Meg Ryan and John Candy film and Little Tokyo. A true visionary.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:45:50 PM   
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His filmography actually sounds really fun, like that Meg Ryan and John Candy film


You too special to mention Eugene Levy, bitch?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:47:42 PM   
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OMG, he made a film where Coolio fights a Pterodactyl.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:49:48 PM   
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OMG he also made Fatal Attraction 3
I'm sorry, Levy is awesome.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/2/2011 10:52:44 PM   
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Coolio fights a Pterodactyl.



This didn't win Best Picture?


Also, is the original Mechanic any good? I'm suspicious of Michael Winner because he's a knob. The remake is okay though.

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