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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/7/2010 5:32:14 PM   
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Welsh people don't do football. They do singing loudly and rugby.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/7/2010 5:34:11 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/7/2010 5:37:02 PM   
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Rugby= hugely boring.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/7/2010 5:46:17 PM   
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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least. 

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/7/2010 5:49:44 PM   
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Holland = nine dirty fouling diving cheaters + Wesley Sneijder and RVP (<3).

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RE: Miles's Unseen Films Thread: The Palm Beach Story - 3/7/2010 6:15:01 PM   
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What about Holland's answer to Nick Bendtner, Dirk Kuyt?

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RE: Miles's Unseen Films Thread: The Palm Beach Story - 3/7/2010 6:17:15 PM   
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Kuyt's been quite good actually, bizarrely. But the idea of Kuyt with a WC medal and the mighty Bergkamp without one makes me cry. 

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RE: Miles's Unseen Films Thread: The Palm Beach Story - 3/7/2010 6:29:42 PM   
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The idea of Kuyt with a WC medal and the Gerrard without one makes me laugh.

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RE: Miles's Unseen Films Thread: The Palm Beach Story - 3/7/2010 6:32:40 PM   
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Not just Bergkamp, but Cruyff, Neeskens, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Krol, the list goes on.

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RE: Miles's Unseen Films Thread: The Palm Beach Story - 5/7/2010 12:51:38 AM   
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***spoilers***

"Just takes a few months to get to be a hundred..."

Le salaire de la peur [The Wages of Fear] (1953, Clouzot)
Masterful. The opening stretch may seem long, but by boring the viewer it actually accentuates how desperate the men are to get out, and make their dilemma plausible. The stuff that follows is amongst the best in suspense cinema, period. The lack of non-diegetic music is notable, the actors all play their roles remarkably well (well, except for maybe Clouzot's wife, but even she's not bad, and it's mostly the character that's at fault [and again, it could be argued that because even the prettiest women are fucking annoying Mario has an additional incentive to get out]), but most importantly, the editing is tense and sparse and the direction never falters. The exchanges inside cars are also memorable despite the emphasis on action ("I've died 50 times since last night").
An important note is that I knew all of the plot beforehand, including the stunning ending, but as Hitchcock would surely tell us, the knowledge of the bomb under the table actually increases the suspense, and I was so immersed into the film I had no idea what was going to happen. EXTREME SPOILERS When Luigi and the other guy blew up, I actually gasped. I guess the message of the film is that fear is something you have to keep under the control in both directions, which is not very deep. The anti-capitalist undertones are likewise ambiguous, as we see that the men are almost willing to kill in order to get the job (though the American's behaviour is certainly a critique of capitalism from the film-makers).
BTW, best use of Danube ever, take that, 2001 (couldn't resist). Outstanding. 9

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 12:58:52 AM   
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also I put a fiver on Germany to win the World Cup at the start. 7/1, chaps.



I still rue the day I opted against putting a tenner (or getting someone else to put on a bet, as I was 11) on Ronaldo to finish top scorer in 2002 at the last minute. 25/1, ffs.


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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least. 


No rugby player can do anything as wonderful as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

No human, even.




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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 1:12:00 AM   
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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least.


No rugby player can do anything as wonderful as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

No human, even.



Because of this, I hope Holland wins with a last minute goal tomorrow.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 8:11:45 AM   
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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least. 


No rugby player can do anything as wonderful as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

No human, even.



Because of this, I hope Holland wins with a last minute goal tomorrow.


The goal is outstanding, but how amazing is that commentary?


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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 9:44:31 AM   
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That's what I meant

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 12:41:14 PM   
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Great choice, Miles. Spectacular film with such a pervading sense of doom and lives rotting away in the baking sun.

SPOILERS SPOILERS

I'm glad you mentioned the ending, though. The first time I saw it, it was very much a WTF? moment. I thought the moment where he collapses out of the truck with the fires shooting up into the night sky in the background was a much more fitting and visually impressive ending.

But the more I watch it, the more I dig the ending they went off. Pretty bleak with just a pinch of black humour.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 12:46:21 PM   
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Yeah, that would have made for a nice ending as well, but I love the black melodrama of the one in the film.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 6:36:13 PM   
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You should watch les diaboliques next miles. 

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 6:52:43 PM   
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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least. 


No rugby player can do anything as wonderful as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

No human, even.


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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 6:53:09 PM   
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I know the ending to that one, incidentally I'm more intrigued by Le Corbeau, TBH. Opinions?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 6:56:26 PM   
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I know the ending to that one, incidentally I'm more intrigued by Le Corbeau, TBH. Opinions?


I havent seen that one, only wages of fear and les diaboliques. Both would make my top 100 though. It a shame you already know the ending though.


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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 7:23:19 PM   
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Yeah, apparently it's an amazing twist.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 7:31:45 PM   
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You should both try Le Corbeau. It's intelligent, subversive and fairly grim. 

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 7:54:29 PM   
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At least the players don't act as if they are made out of marshmallows in that one. From the little rugby I've seen at least.


No rugby player can do anything as wonderful as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs

No human, even.


I see you and I raise you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNfgibZO5o

Since we're talking about Dutch Arsenal players, how about this beauty

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 5/7/2010 11:41:12 PM   
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Seeing as we're talking about great Dutch goals...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFrugxgASuY&feature=related

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 12:20:30 PM   
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"TWAT!"

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 12:29:40 PM   
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"He must have a foot like a traction engine!"

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 2:41:38 PM   
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This might sound like sacriligie, but I didn't take much to Wages of Fear. I didn't find it very tense to be honest, apart from the bit where they are loading the nitro into the truck and one of them almost slips.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 2:45:27 PM   
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I'm not a great fan of Diaboliques (I still think it got its rep over here because it fit the fruity French art films so beloved of young men who couldn't see 'adult' films - not least with that see-through nightie shot).

But I'd put Le Corbeau above Wages of Fear - fantastic film. Preminger's remake isn't great, though.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 4:36:59 PM   
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I'm not a great fan of Diaboliques (I still think it got its rep over here because it fit the fruity French art films so beloved of young men who couldn't see 'adult' films - not least with that see-through nightie shot).

But I'd put Le Corbeau above Wages of Fear - fantastic film. Preminger's remake isn't great, though.


Yes, but elab, which dutch player's goal do you think is best?


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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 6/7/2010 4:54:20 PM   
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Not an issue - I won backing them is the point for me.

Still rather surprised to see Gio on the team though. I'd thought he was a bit older.

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