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RE: City of God - 23/1/2010 11:10:27 PM   
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I love this thread too damn much to let it vanish into oblivion

Rushmore (1998, Anderson)
Iíve only seen one Wes Anderson film, Tenenbaums, and that was years ago, so I was curious as to how I would react to his work now. After the first half hour, I was considering to turn the film off. I stuck with it, and in the remaining hour was won over.
The script is at the core of the film. While not really quotable or overtly funny, it manages to create characters that are blatantly quirky, but still sympathetic in an odd way.
Of course, the performances are also important, and they donít disappoint. Murrayís is the best as usual Ė his character is even crazier than Max, and even with limited screentime I felt totally connected to this lonely weirdo. Schwartzman is also impressive in the lead role.
From what I understand, Anderson frequently imports songs for his needs, and this certainly works brilliantly here. Another obligatory mention goes to the cinematography which is just as quirky as the characters.
Overall, itís a great study of loneliness and human relationships, and even though it can be irritating at times, it did make me want to watch more of Wesís films 8/10


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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 7:21:30 PM   
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Finally got around to watching Rushmore for the first time just a few weeks ago. While it isn't my favourite Wes Anderson film - I think he's grown and developed considerably as a filmmaker since then - there is still a great deal about it to like.

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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 7:29:45 PM   
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The funniest part of Rushmore was the running joke about handjobs

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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 11:00:25 PM   
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I didn't laugh out loud much during the film TBH, it's weird.
What should I watch next:
MASH
Cuckoo's Nest
Totoro
Shadows
High Plains Drifter?

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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 11:10:08 PM   
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High Plains Drifter.

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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 11:15:23 PM   
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I've never seen Rushmore, and wasn't a big fan Anderson fan either after seeing Tenenbaums several years ago, but I have to admit I watched Darjeeling Limited recently and thought it was brilliant. I may have to have a gander at this.

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RE: City of God - 25/1/2010 11:18:46 PM   
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I didn't laugh out loud much during the film TBH, it's weird.
What should I watch next:
MASH
Cuckoo's Nest
Totoro
Shadows
High Plains Drifter?


Dump Shadows () and watch all of the others. Just random.

RUshmore is the only Anderson film I can tolerate - to me he's another Ricky Gervais. The same stuff, tediously over and over again. And then he did it with animation

That said, I haven't seen Rushmore in ages. And I now find the original Office almost unwatchable - maybe it's the same with this which would make me sad.

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RE: City of God - 26/1/2010 12:21:30 AM   
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I didn't laugh out loud much during the film TBH, it's weird.
What should I watch next:
MASH
Cuckoo's Nest
Totoro
Shadows
High Plains Drifter?


Dump Shadows () and watch all of the others. Just random.

RUshmore is the only Anderson film I can tolerate - to me he's another Ricky Gervais. The same stuff, tediously over and over again. And then he did it with animation

That said, I haven't seen Rushmore in ages. And I now find the original Office almost unwatchable - maybe it's the same with this which would make me sad.


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RE: City of God - 26/1/2010 12:34:50 AM   
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The funniest part of Rushmore was the running joke about handjobs


Nah, the funniest part was when it ended.

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RE: City of God - 31/1/2010 3:06:52 AM   
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As usual, I still haven't seen any of the 5.
Here's a review though:
"I don't have a thought at the moment...but I'm expecting one"

La notte [The Night] (1961, Antonioni)
I have my own recipe for Strombolian films, which I came up with a few months ago. Rather than re-watching the film, I watch another film by the same director. It worked for Rivette. It worked for Wong. Now it worked for Antonioni.
Iíll begin by stating the obvious. The film is amazingly beautiful Ė the mise-en-scŤne is perfect, so is the cinematography, and so is Vitti. I took 26 screenshots while watching the film, which is an obscenely large amount, even for me. Sure, I wonít keep all of them, but the fact that it made me want to should account for something...
As I said, my recipe worked. I liked La notte more than Líavventura but I also now I appreciate the latter more than I used to. If I remember correctly, the former didnít click with me because the characterís motivations didnít make sense. Now I know that they donít have to. The intelligentsia drift through life and relationships, leaving behind only memories they later regret. The characters actually feel more real than they usually do; itís the fact that theyíre flawed which makes them so easy to identify with.
In a way, itís a film thatís too mature for me. I wouldnít expect the film to connect with me, but it did. Thatís partly because of the brilliant performances (my second Moreau and Vitti film, my first Marcello, if Iím not mistaken, and I certainly want to see more from all of them), partly because of the aforementioned cinematography, and partly, because it just manages to pull it off. Also, unlike Líavventura, I didnít find it slow. Sure, not many things happen, but nothing feels excessive, which is always a trademark of a good film.
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RE: City of God - 31/1/2010 11:58:47 AM   
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I much prefer L'Avventura to La Notte. Both are pretty special, though...

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RE: City of God - 31/1/2010 9:30:07 PM   
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Like I said in the review, the latter made me appreciate the former more, but still not enough.

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RE: Murder, My Sweet - 24/2/2010 3:51:52 PM   
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I'm thinking on reviving this. I'm a bit movied out currently, and the top 100 thread (commenting on every film I watch) is too much pressure. Opinions?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 1:20:10 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 10:37:15 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 10:45:53 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 10:51:44 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 10:55:02 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 11:09:33 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 11:19:29 PM   
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"PA, I just insulted you on last.fm. Huzzah for cross-website abuse. Also, Miles, restart this thread and watch something I like first."- Michael Winner
How about Vivre Sa Vie? I have that from lovefilm
And I could watch Death Wish, too, Epi?

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 11:21:40 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 26/2/2010 11:22:17 PM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 27/2/2010 1:35:03 AM   
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/3/2010 5:15:49 PM   
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Two short reviews to re-start with:
***spoilers***
"And with a really top lawyer, I might sue for damages."

Bob le flambeur [Bob the Gambler] (1956, Melville)
My 2nd Melville after Le Samourai, and apart from being crime films, these two couldn't be more different. Where Le Samourai is slow and meticulous, this is spontaneous and ridiculous. Cool score, pretty girl, and a gun - all you need to make a crime film.
I like how it reverses the noir convention of having the corrupted protagonist punished. It injects the lifestyle of the characters with glamour, and despite the fact it was shot on a very low budget, looks great. The acting is not amazing but the simple relationships between the characters work because the stereotypes are so well executed. It may be a little forgettable, but it's a fun ride for sure.
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La passion de Jeanne d'Arc [The Passion of Joan of Arc] (1928, Dreyer)
My first Dreyer, and I can tell with certainty it won't be my last. I've seen few films as timeless as this. While I don't find religion a particularly interesting subject, this, to me, is simply a story of a young woman defending herself and what she believes in, despite being subjected to every kind of oppression possible. The cinematography, consisting mostly of close-ups, but amazingly fluid when needed, is brilliantly natural. The acting is brilliantly emotive without being overtly theatrical, Falconetti's performance of course being the stand-out, although I do think Kael's and others' praise for it being slightly exaggerated. Even though I don't actually share Dreyer's admiration for Joan as a character, this is a very, very impressive display of the human spirit.
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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/3/2010 5:26:52 PM   
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Passion of Joan of Arc is amazingly powerful, and I know I bang on about the comedy side of silent movies a bit, but blimey charlie, Dreyer's film is the best argument I can have against this whole sound thing that seems to be popular these days.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 3/3/2010 5:29:38 PM   
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Totally true, that. I know I only gave it an 8, but it's every bit as good as The General or The Kid. Behind Strike, the best silent non-comedy I've ever seen (not saying much, I know).
I'm planning to watch Day of Wrath from Dreyer next, unless someone objects

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/3/2010 4:14:41 PM   
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Totally true, that. I know I only gave it an 8, but it's every bit as good as The General or The Kid. Behind Strike, the best silent non-comedy I've ever seen (not saying much, I know).
I'm planning to watch Day of Wrath from Dreyer next, unless someone objects

I object because you should watch Sunrise first because that's the best silent non comedy
and the best comedy is obviously Chaplin's The Circus (IMO)

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/3/2010 4:48:41 PM   
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"Interesting" write-up of The Searchers the other day.  I did address the humour in that essay I wrote on it the other year, but not in the recent piece, as it was only a few hundred words and you have to decide what to focus on, or else risk just box-ticking. The older article is on my blog thing in the sig, if you want to read it. It's a bit meandering, but some of it's alright. There's a slight mistake in your review, in that you seem to have given The Searchers eight out of ten. And what the fuck is this:
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Suffers from a lot of the same things as most old Hollywood movies - clunky editing, intrusive scores, exaggerated acting.

At the risk of being rude, that's pretty wrong in both specific and general terms. Glad you liked Wayne though.
 
Bob Le Flambeur's pretty good, but it loses its momentum in the final third and just peters out. That's got to be one of the most underwhelming "ironic" endings ever. Jeanne d'Arc is phenomenal.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/3/2010 4:50:25 PM   
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Totally true, that. I know I only gave it an 8, but it's every bit as good as The General or The Kid. Behind Strike, the best silent non-comedy I've ever seen (not saying much, I know).
I'm planning to watch Day of Wrath from Dreyer next, unless someone objects

I object because you should watch Sunrise first because that's the best silent non comedy
and the best comedy is obviously Chaplin's The Circus (IMO)

Sunrise is superb, but I'd still take The Crowd and The Wind over it. The Student Prince in Old Heidelberg is my absolute favourite.

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RE: Miles's Great Unseen Films Thread: Taxi Driver - 11/3/2010 7:07:24 PM   
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Totally true, that. I know I only gave it an 8, but it's every bit as good as The General or The Kid. Behind Strike, the best silent non-comedy I've ever seen (not saying much, I know).
I'm planning to watch Day of Wrath from Dreyer next, unless someone objects

I object because you should watch Sunrise first because that's the best silent†non comedy
and the best comedy is obviously Chaplin's The†Circus†(IMO)

Sunrise is superb, but I'd still take The Crowd and The Wind over it. The Student Prince in Old Heidelberg is my absolute favourite.

Need to see all 4 of these
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"Interesting" write-up of The Searchers the other day. †I did address the humour in that essay I wrote on it the other year, but not in the recent piece, as it was†only a few hundred words and you have to decide what to focus on, or else risk just box-ticking. The older article is on my blog thing in the sig, if you want to read it. It's a bit meandering, but some of it's alright. There's a slight mistake in your review, in that you seem to have given The Searchers eight out of ten.

Can't be bothered to search the blog, mind summing up your point in one sentence? And the mistake lies in your top 100, rather than anywhere else Speaking of which, going to see your #2 this week-end (though I've been saying that for a while )
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Suffers from a lot of the same things as most old Hollywood movies - clunky editing, intrusive scores, exaggerated acting.

At the risk of being rude, that's pretty wrong in both specific and general terms. Glad you liked Wayne though.

I tend to exaggerate/generalise, but I'd certainly say all 3 apply to The Searchers, though not too severely. Yeah, Wayne surprised me. Gonna see Rio Bravo next from him.
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Bob Le Flambeur's pretty good, but it loses its momentum in the final third and just peters out. That's got to be one of the most underwhelming "ironic" endings ever. Jeanne d'Arc is phenomenal.

Jeanne d'Arc is brilliant, yes, not really my type of film, but superb otherwise.
I quite like Bob Le Flambeur's random third act, you might consider it underwhelming but it has charm.

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