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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:38:42 PM   
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The tribes around the Nazca area used organic LSD type drugs during rituals, after taking the drugs they would start to trip and part of the halluciniation was that they felt they were flying so one hypothesis is that these drawings were made to be visible from the air to aid in these rituals. Erich von Daniken would disagree though.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:39:11 PM   
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For a giggle? No-one ever thinks that extra terrestrials have a sense of humour. It would explain why they insist on only kidnapping rednecks from America's deep South.




I've often thought the same. They're probably just teenagers with access to their mum's spaceship

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:41:16 PM   
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The tribes around the Nazca area used organic LSD type drugs during rituals, after taking the drugs they would start to trip and part of the halluciniation was that they felt they were flying so one hypothesis is that these drawings were made to be visible from the air to aid in these rituals. Erich von Daniken would disagree though.


von Daniken once made a claim I believe that you could prove that aliens visited past cultures because there were pictures of skeletons in cave drawings. How was this possible, he reasoned, without the use of an X-Ray machine?

Errrr....

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:45:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Woger

The tribes around the Nazca area used organic LSD type drugs during rituals, after taking the drugs they would start to trip and part of the halluciniation was that they felt they were flying so one hypothesis is that these drawings were made to be visible from the air to aid in these rituals. Erich von Daniken would disagree though.


von Daniken once made a claim I believe that you could prove that aliens visited past cultures because there were pictures of skeletons in cave drawings. How was this possible, he reasoned, without the use of an X-Ray machine?

Errrr....


Wait till bodies decomposed?

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:49:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Woger

The tribes around the Nazca area used organic LSD type drugs during rituals, after taking the drugs they would start to trip and part of the halluciniation was that they felt they were flying so one hypothesis is that these drawings were made to be visible from the air to aid in these rituals. Erich von Daniken would disagree though.


von Daniken once made a claim I believe that you could prove that aliens visited past cultures because there were pictures of skeletons in cave drawings. How was this possible, he reasoned, without the use of an X-Ray machine?

Errrr....


Wait till bodies decomposed?


Yeah. That was what the "errrrr.." was for

That and I'm pretty sure there were plenty of wars in those days. The human body would have been one of the topics they will have had a degree of knowledge on.

Here is a mystery for you all - The Dyatlov Pass Incident. The case remains unsolved. The best the Russians can do is say that the deaths were the result of an "Unknown force".

Freaky stuff. Check it out -

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/1562/the-dyatlov-pass-incident.html

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 4:53:30 PM   
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Not a great picture but in this carving it is claimed (by von Danikenites) that an Aztec is sitting in a space ship cockpit.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/gallery/displaycomments.php?pos=-1555

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 5:07:29 PM   
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From: Back stalking Wilbert....oh, yes...
Guys, for shits n giggles, just Google the Dogons ( oh er, missus!).

I'd Google for you, but I'm rushing around like a maniac trying to gget ready to go out ( but still having my fix of Empire........ )

It's an ancient culture that was aware of Sirius B before scientist " discovered  " it ! And you can't see it without the aid of the new telescopes...................

The patterns and symbols and stories they tell match up to aliens having visited Earth a long time ago................

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 5:14:28 PM   
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Is that the African tribe? We're now getting itno Graham Hancock/Robert Bauval territory, they don't go for the Von Daniken/alian stuff but more for civilisations predating Egypt etc and these civilisations passing on information to Aztecz, Egyptians, Inca ets and conncections can be seen between each civilisation and they were also inn tune with astronomy. Interesting but more than likely coincedence and selective interpretation.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 5:31:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is a mystery for you all - The Dyatlov Pass Incident. The case remains unsolved. The best the Russians can do is say that the deaths were the result of an "Unknown force".


Well, it doesn't seem like that much of a mystery to me. It sounds like there is a mystery being forced upon the story though!

Could a bear be an explanation for this?

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 5:45:06 PM   
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I have an alibi.....................

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 5:46:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Woger
Is that the African tribe? We're now getting itno Graham Hancock/Robert Bauval territory, they don't go for the Von Daniken/alian stuff but more for civilisations predating Egypt etc and these civilisations passing on information to Aztecz, Egyptians, Inca ets and conncections can be seen between each civilisation and they were also inn tune with astronomy. Interesting but more than likely coincedence and selective interpretation.

Yep. You would LOVE my library! It's full of books like these................

Wil would be horrified.............

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:09:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Baby Bear

quote:

ORIGINAL: Woger
Is that the African tribe? We're now getting itno Graham Hancock/Robert Bauval territory, they don't go for the Von Daniken/alian stuff but more for civilisations predating Egypt etc and these civilisations passing on information to Aztecz, Egyptians, Inca ets and conncections can be seen between each civilisation and they were also inn tune with astronomy. Interesting but more than likely coincedence and selective interpretation.

Yep. You would LOVE my library! It's full of books like these................

Wil would be horrified.............


I'd be willing to overlook it but only because it's you, BB!


Now, that was smooooooth!!!


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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:13:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is a mystery for you all - The Dyatlov Pass Incident. The case remains unsolved. The best the Russians can do is say that the deaths were the result of an "Unknown force".


Well, it doesn't seem like that much of a mystery to me. It sounds like there is a mystery being forced upon the story though!

Could a bear be an explanation for this?


Well I think there are enough things about the case that merit a second look. I for one wouldn't say there was a supernatual element to it - you may be surpirsed but I am similar to yourself. Just like reading these mysteries because I doubt an explanation will come forward. 

I think the "aliens helped build ancient civillisations" is pure bunk, I can't hate it too much-  it was those books that inspired Battlestar Galatica. So some  good DID come out of it all.

On the downside we also got AvP, but you can't win all of them.

I think as long as you have a healthy skepticism for these things it can be fun - but I would like to think we haven't discovered everything in nature yet. Indeed we are finding creatures living in depths and tempertures once thought to be impossible.

Here is an archaeological one for you Wilbert. You may have heard of it

http://www.mendhak.com/84-mystery-of-the-oak-island-treasure.aspx

< Message edited by Rgirvan44 -- 23/2/2009 6:15:19 PM >


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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:16:14 PM   
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Oak Island was the work of Templars, isn't everything?

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:19:09 PM   
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From: Back stalking Wilbert....oh, yes...
There have been a couple of great documentaries on Discovery about this!

The guy is sinking more and more money into the project. I think it's become less about the treasure and more about the fact he is consumed by the hunt and being correct about the money being there all along..................

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:20:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is an archaeological one for you Wilbert. You may have heard of it

http://www.mendhak.com/84-mystery-of-the-oak-island-treasure.aspx


Never heard of that one. I'd be more inclined to believe it if there were more than maps and sketches there. Although it seems totally plausible.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:21:03 PM   
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There have been a couple of great documentaries on Discovery about this!

The guy is sinking more and more money into the project. I think it's become less about the treasure and more about the fact he is consumed by the hunt and being correct about the money being there all along..................


I have seen one or two of those. The amount of money being spent on digging a rather large hole when it is likely whatever was contained in it was washed out to sea a long time ago will mean a big dash of dissappointment for the guy.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:22:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is an archaeological one for you Wilbert. You may have heard of it

http://www.mendhak.com/84-mystery-of-the-oak-island-treasure.aspx


Never heard of that one. I'd be more inclined to believe it if there were more than maps and sketches there. Although it seems totally plausible.


http://www.unmuseum.org/oakisl.htm

There are a couple of maps and pictures on this page.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:23:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is an archaeological one for you Wilbert. You may have heard of it

http://www.mendhak.com/84-mystery-of-the-oak-island-treasure.aspx


Never heard of that one. I'd be more inclined to believe it if there were more than maps and sketches there. Although it seems totally plausible.


http://www.unmuseum.org/oakisl.htm

There are a couple of maps and pictures on this page.


Again with the maps and drawings! How about some photos?!?

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 23/2/2009 6:28:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Here is an archaeological one for you Wilbert. You may have heard of it

http://www.mendhak.com/84-mystery-of-the-oak-island-treasure.aspx


Never heard of that one. I'd be more inclined to believe it if there were more than maps and sketches there. Although it seems totally plausible.


http://www.unmuseum.org/oakisl.htm

There are a couple of maps and pictures on this page.


Again with the maps and drawings! How about some photos?!?


There are two photos on that page! What you want from me? Blood!

Here - part one of a video about it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw2E3xwO_M4

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 24/2/2009 8:28:41 PM   
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I need to have that particular hybrid photo-shopped, Dev................. please?


When I learn to use photoshop and some similar program, I'll send to you, or better, I'll send the actual thing.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 24/2/2009 9:00:26 PM   
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Monster Biscuit

As an enthusiast of cryptozoology, I was excited this morning to try the Monster Biscuit, a breakfast sandwich from 7-Eleven. But what kind of monster? I wondered. Griffin? Chupacabra? Too impatient to wait until I got to my office, I scanned the ingredient list for what monster (or monsters!) I'd be eating.

I wasn't familiar with any monsters on the list: propyl gallate, apocarotenal, erythorbate (which is probably a man-eating earthworm, don't you think?). There was an ingredient called "bha," which might be a dragon-snake or something from India, but mostly Monster Biscuit was made out of stuff like cottonseed oil, corn-syrup solids, artificial flavors, and pork.

Undeterred, I tried Monster Biscuit when I got to work. I'm no expert, but I'd say that Monster Biscuit has the mellow gaminess of yeti and the mouthfeel of Tennessee wampus cat, with more than a hint of skunk ape in its bouquet.





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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 24/2/2009 10:32:35 PM   
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Guys, for shits n giggles, just Google the Dogons ( oh er, missus!).

I'd Google for you, but I'm rushing around like a maniac trying to gget ready to go out ( but still having my fix of Empire........ )

It's an ancient culture that was aware of Sirius B before scientist " discovered  " it ! And you can't see it without the aid of the new telescopes...................

The patterns and symbols and stories they tell match up to aliens having visited Earth a long time ago................


Ahh the Dogons and the Annunaki. I know this story well. It's interesting, if not completely ridiculous.

I like this thread. It's gone from cryptozoology to conspiracy theories, both of which I find fascinating.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 27/2/2009 3:29:47 PM   
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I haven`t read this whole thread yet so apologies if this link has been mentioned but this is a link to some interesting info on Big Cats in the UK. There have been sightings of one near where I live in South Mimms just off the M25 Junction 24. It wouldn`t surprise me if there are big cats that have escaped from private collections before they were banned in the 70`s by law or from zoos/safari parks that have mated.

http://www.bigcats.org.uk/pantherweb2.html#THE

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 9/3/2009 12:57:04 AM   
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Check out this dude!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/photogalleries/fish-transparent-head-barreleye-picture/index.html

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 9/3/2009 8:14:32 AM   
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Freaky!

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 9/3/2009 1:50:27 PM   
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wonder what they taste like with chips and mushy peas?

I think if I had to choose a mythical animal for a monster sandwich then i think i would have to go for a bit of Yeti with maybe a side order of leprochaun.

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 16/3/2009 3:23:37 PM   
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This a link to David Attenborough recently interviewed by Johnathan Ross about whether he thinks The Loch Ness Monster and the Yeti exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQgN7XzPN0

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 16/3/2009 3:29:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cruisecontroller

This a link to David Attenborough recently interviewed by Johnathan Ross about whether he thinks The Loch Ness Monster and the Yeti exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQgN7XzPN0


Can't watch it at work, what did he say? I think I saw in another interview where he said that he is open to their existence.
On an Irish radio station they do a segemnt which looks (ie mocks) at regional newspapers and there was a story about someone in Kerry who saw a black beast. It had the head of a dog with the legs of a
dog

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RE: The Cryptozoology Thread - 16/3/2009 3:42:41 PM   
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Some TV crew in Canada last Nov claimed this was Ogopogo...


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