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Evolution Of Street Fighter - 11/2/2009 9:55:53 PM   
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Memories relived - 11/2/2009 9:55:53 PM   
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Ah its nice to see the old pixels of yesteryear :) Thanks Empire. Cant wait to get this on PC and see what its like. And hope the film will do its part :)

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So we've got another Street Fighter 3D then? - 11/2/2009 10:20:27 PM   
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17years since SFII and still Ryu, Ken et al haven't aged a day? This is undoubtedly gonna be a landmark in beat-em-up gaming in terms of gameply, but jeez Capcom has zero imagination beyond its original character designs compared to the Mortal Kombat series by Midway and King of Fighters by SNK. Shouldn't Ryu be a legendary Hadou Master by now? Has handsome hothead Ken really stuck to training and avoided commercial fame and fortune? Is Blanka still a psychotic green beast even after being reunited with his mommy? It's gonna be a gem to play, but it could have been a creative as well as technical advance. Another missed opportunity by Capcom. At least until SFIV:EX Super Thunder Nitro Gamma Vengeance Edition.

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Sweet Jebus - 11/2/2009 11:17:32 PM   
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Easy known there's a new SF game out. Empire sells out again. I mean, is ANYBODY really duped by their regular "Biggest ever Christmas issue: Now with 62% adverts"?. I thought they may have taken something from the "Twilight" feedback but it seems no (I suppose they do not read the forums anyway). I mean, having an article on the next movie already?: "New Moon Cast On Twilight Sequel: Haven't seen a script yet" Come on!!! ( I read Empire from the very start, way back when they were serialising that Green room novel (was it?) along with Premiere. But I'm afraid that it is now time to leave. I don't think for one second that one single person canceling their order will affect their choice of direction but this is, for me, the final straw.

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SF4 - 11/2/2009 11:31:41 PM   
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To be fair there is a Street Fighter movie comming out soon. Street Fighter Chun Li Chronicles or somthing like that starting that Kristina Kreuk...Lana from Smallville.

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ORIGINAL: y2cave

17years since SFII and still Ryu, Ken et al haven't aged a day? This is undoubtedly gonna be a landmark in beat-em-up gaming in terms of gameply, but jeez Capcom has zero imagination beyond its original character designs compared to the Mortal Kombat series by Midway and King of Fighters by SNK. Shouldn't Ryu be a legendary Hadou Master by now? Has handsome hothead Ken really stuck to training and avoided commercial fame and fortune? Is Blanka still a psychotic green beast even after being reunited with his mommy? It's gonna be a gem to play, but it could have been a creative as well as technical advance. Another missed opportunity by Capcom. At least until SFIV:EX Super Thunder Nitro Gamma Vengeance Edition.


Agreed regarding the development of the characters in Street Fighter to an extent. Yet again you have to think that there are not really that many verions of the story as they kept remaking games.
The story so far goes Street Fighter, Street Fighter Aplha series, Street Fighter 2 series, Street Fighter 3 series and now Street Fighter 4. So despite there being so many versions (Alpha 1-3, Turbo, Super. Hyper etc) the games have all been set in these 4 time periods well now 5 and to be honest there has not been that much of a time gap between them in the actual story.

The characters have all changed though. During 3 they made a lot of big changes but they did not get a good reaction. So for the next few versions of SF3 they added a lot of the old cast back who were not present in the first SF3. It looks like with SF4 they are just giving the fans what they want. Though I was surprised with the roster as I can not see how this story follows on from SF3.

< Message edited by the anomaly -- 11/2/2009 11:48:38 PM >

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Akuma kicks serious *ss! - 11/2/2009 11:58:48 PM   
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Love Street Fighter, favourite character is Akuma. He has a killer move that is real hard to pull off but oh so satisfying when successfully done! Looking forward to that new Street Fighter film, might turn out to be real bad but it is Street Fighter anyway. Count me in!

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Gonna get SF4 even if I get 100 hand slapped for it - 11/2/2009 11:58:54 PM   
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The film lets face will be dire, like Dead or Live a couple of years back, but at least Guile won't be played by The Muscles from Brussels.That's one thing it has in its favour.
The game is a modern classic and it looks brilliant in HD. Who'd win in a fight between Ryu and Ken. There's only one way to find out, FIGHT!!!

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Quick, change the channel! - 12/2/2009 4:13:03 AM   
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Why is there no love for the Van Damme movie? It's one of the greatest comedies ever made featuring such zingers as:

Bison: You have made me a very happy man.
Colonel William F. Guile: And next, I'll make you a dead one.

Chun Li: My father saved his village at the cost of his own life. You had him shot as you ran away. A hero at a thousand paces!
Bison: I'm sorry... I don't remember any of it.
Chun Li: You don't remember?
Bison: For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday.

[Bison and Sagat's men watch a TV screen showing a truck loaded with explosives about to crash into their tent]
Zangief: Quick, change the channel!

Colonel William F. Guile: It's the Collection Agency, Bison. Your ass is six months over due, and it's mine.

Zangief: General Bison is a bad guy? If you know then why do you work for him?
Dee Jay: Because he paid me a freakin fortune, Man! If you know what's good for you you'll save your own ass!
Zangief: ...you got paid?

Balrog: [Balrog and Honda are chained in prison. Balrog grabs his chain] Honda, give me a hand.
E. Honda: We've only been in prison two hours. Maybe next month.

If you didn't laugh at streetfighter then yo have no soul. Seriously. Look it up.

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"Evil demon"? I don't think so - 12/2/2009 11:09:27 AM   
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Actually, the kanji on Akuma's back means "heaven". Sorry.

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RE: Quick, change the channel! - 12/2/2009 11:54:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Trevelyan006

Bison: For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday.



Awesome quote.  I didn't realise there were so many daft but brilliant lines in the thing

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- 12/2/2009 8:25:53 PM   
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This was a great game... not so great movie?

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" Bison! You are off Air!" - 12/2/2009 10:08:17 PM   
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Fair enough the movie wasn't perfect, but it was fun and it wasn't even trying to be serious, so it gets away with its camp tone (plus it was Rual Julia's last movie). Anyway I don't care what people say, JCVD was a total legend in that movie. Long Live GUILE!

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- 13/2/2009 10:17:55 AM   
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"wining" the game? really?

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"intimdating" - 13/2/2009 10:27:49 AM   
Youshouldberunning


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Jeez Empire - is your spell check fucked?

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RE: SF4 - 13/2/2009 10:52:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: the anomaly

Agreed regarding the development of the characters in Street Fighter to an extent. Yet again you have to think that there are not really that many verions of the story as they kept remaking games.
The story so far goes Street Fighter, Street Fighter Aplha series, Street Fighter 2 series, Street Fighter 3 series and now Street Fighter 4. So despite there being so many versions (Alpha 1-3, Turbo, Super. Hyper etc) the games have all been set in these 4 time periods well now 5 and to be honest there has not been that much of a time gap between them in the actual story.

The characters have all changed though. During 3 they made a lot of big changes but they did not get a good reaction. So for the next few versions of SF3 they added a lot of the old cast back who were not present in the first SF3. It looks like with SF4 they are just giving the fans what they want. Though I was surprised with the roster as I can not see how this story follows on from SF3.


Good point about the actual chronology of the series. The remake factor though was always a bone of contention for me - I can' t have been the only person who felt like we were getting work-in-progress versions of the games Capcom were striving to make, until we finally got definitive versions, e.g. SFII Championship Edition (with Super SFII Turbo a close runner-up), SFA3, and SFIII Third Strike.

I do think more could have been made of the real-time gaps between incarnations. I always found it kinda snippy that, for all the times Capcom tried to take the piss out of SNK, it was SNK who were progressing the characters year on year, as if the characters themselves had been training and developing since the last year, while Capcom seemed content just to add more unnecessary counters and special strikes.

If I can turf them out and scan them in, I might post my concept sketches for Hadou Master Ryu. No promises, though, hahaha!

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Shocking - 13/2/2009 12:39:08 PM   
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Lads (and ladies), such a poor way to sell out. I know there's a credit crunch and all that so you're desperate for money, but this is ridiculous. The stupidest and most pointless feature yet. This is a sad day in the history of Empire...

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RE: SF4 - 13/2/2009 1:33:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: the anomaly

Agreed regarding the development of the characters in Street Fighter to an extent. Yet again you have to think that there are not really that many verions of the story as they kept remaking games.
The story so far goes Street Fighter, Street Fighter Aplha series, Street Fighter 2 series, Street Fighter 3 series and now Street Fighter 4. So despite there being so many versions (Alpha 1-3, Turbo, Super. Hyper etc) the games have all been set in these 4 time periods well now 5 and to be honest there has not been that much of a time gap between them in the actual story.

The characters have all changed though. During 3 they made a lot of big changes but they did not get a good reaction. So for the next few versions of SF3 they added a lot of the old cast back who were not present in the first SF3. It looks like with SF4 they are just giving the fans what they want. Though I was surprised with the roster as I can not see how this story follows on from SF3.


It doesn't.  SF4 is set between SF2 and SF3. 

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Oh my... - 13/2/2009 2:55:54 PM   
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Guys, please stick to writing about films, yeah? That was gloriously uninformed, and the majority of Empire's readers are unlikely to give a damn. Maybe if you did a feature on the evolution of cgi or something?

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What does the M. Stand for? - 13/2/2009 4:23:48 PM   
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I know that in Japan M. Bison was Balrog, a p-take of Mike Tyson, but I think that's just to avoid copyright issues - clearly, The M. in M. Bison stands for Mario. Give the wee plumber a cape, and what you see is this red-suited menace!!!

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Awww... - 13/2/2009 7:51:27 PM   
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I quite enjoyed this article actually, but i was disappointed that there was no mention of Street Fighter II: The Movie, which is still, after all these years, a fanTAStic film, and really DID manage to get across M.Bison's ruthlessness, despite his camp clobber.
The Jean-Claude God-Damn piece of schmit i've quite happily relegated to the Room 101 of my mind with Highlander II, MiB 2 and Batman And Robin.

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- 13/2/2009 8:10:54 PM   
Adrian

 

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you missed T. Hawk. Just for those who figure Sagat ain't big enough. hits harder'n an iron horse too. him um heap big bloke yup.

Deejay was okay i guess. in actuality always better than i expected him to be. rare case of he's better in player than computer hands.

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RE: SF4 - 13/2/2009 11:30:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: y2cave

quote:

ORIGINAL: the anomaly

Agreed regarding the development of the characters in Street Fighter to an extent. Yet again you have to think that there are not really that many verions of the story as they kept remaking games.
The story so far goes Street Fighter, Street Fighter Aplha series, Street Fighter 2 series, Street Fighter 3 series and now Street Fighter 4. So despite there being so many versions (Alpha 1-3, Turbo, Super. Hyper etc) the games have all been set in these 4 time periods well now 5 and to be honest there has not been that much of a time gap between them in the actual story.

The characters have all changed though. During 3 they made a lot of big changes but they did not get a good reaction. So for the next few versions of SF3 they added a lot of the old cast back who were not present in the first SF3. It looks like with SF4 they are just giving the fans what they want. Though I was surprised with the roster as I can not see how this story follows on from SF3.


Good point about the actual chronology of the series. The remake factor though was always a bone of contention for me - I can' t have been the only person who felt like we were getting work-in-progress versions of the games Capcom were striving to make, until we finally got definitive versions, e.g. SFII Championship Edition (with Super SFII Turbo a close runner-up), SFA3, and SFIII Third Strike.

I do think more could have been made of the real-time gaps between incarnations. I always found it kinda snippy that, for all the times Capcom tried to take the piss out of SNK, it was SNK who were progressing the characters year on year, as if the characters themselves had been training and developing since the last year, while Capcom seemed content just to add more unnecessary counters and special strikes.

If I can turf them out and scan them in, I might post my concept sketches for Hadou Master Ryu. No promises, though, hahaha!


True. I really just lost track of SF for quite a while during the aplha stages. I played them but never owned any. There just seemed to be so many. You could probaly compare the SF games to football games like FIFA and PRO Evo. Releasing a game every year that is every so slightly better each time. Where as in SF case I do wish there was a bigger gap so they could make big improvements. Though I guess their way had it's advantages.

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It doesn't.  SF4 is set between SF2 and SF3. 


I think I heard that awhile back but forgot! Cheers for that anyway. It does just back up y2caves point and my own. Why not continue the story of SF3? Why add more confusion by calling the game SF4? Why not SF2 somthing or the other... It just goes to show that people want a lot of the same in some regards. I have to admit SF would not be the same without my favourite characters. Though I really think they should/could have continued the story. Even if characters are not part of the story they could put them in the VS mode. Like they have done with the character of Gouken in this new game. I am pretty sure in the actual story he is long dead. Yet they have added him to the game as a bonus character.

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Street Fighter stole my teenage years! - 14/2/2009 10:55:02 AM   
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Awesome article! I am now off 2 buy a snes and kick sum Zangief ass!

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That Wackadoo Spaniard - 14/2/2009 1:15:12 PM   
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"Yes, there are still people who claim Vega's a beast when you finally master him..."

There are, as it happens. I'd know; I'm one of them. I played Vega till he crawled up that cage, spun, rolled, and diced-and-sliced with those claws like no tomorrow. I even got juice out of him after his claws were kicked off [usually by my opponent's Chun-Li]. He was great fun... if you were patient. The costume, though...? Well, he was supposed to have been a matador, and his pants and stockings and shoes are actually the lower half of a bullfighter's costume, which also explains the bright, BRIGHT colours. Still, it looked pretty silly when up next to, say, Ryu's basic white.

Reading this took me right back to 1991-92, when controller mashing filled my living room till my eyes were blurry. I can't play any fighter game without wishing the SFII cast could magically appear on screen [as well as the guys and gals in Samurai Showdown, the other fighter I gravitated towards].

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RE: That Wackadoo Spaniard - 15/2/2009 9:23:26 PM   
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Exactly, HighwayJoe! I always thought it was the marginal characters that made the game. There always seemed to be a massive gulf between the Ryus and Kens, and the rest - like an average Ryu player would always beat a great Zangief player, for instance.

Me, I have to come out now as Guile, all the way. he had a great range of strikes, some simple but some really awkward with unusual contact points so you could really piss off opponents by switching attack heights in an instant.

Plus, I really think people missed a trick with his charging specials. Master a couple of his combos, and you learn to charge the specials while pulling off the combo! Nothing better than to round off a smooth strike flurry with an EX Super Flash Kick!

Oh, and he rocked in Marvel VSCapcom 2 ;)

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Killjoys - 16/2/2009 12:20:53 PM   
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Empire, dont listen to the naysayers about this article, it was great, and took me back down memory lane enough to make me call an old friend from school to see if he caught it too!
Guys, I am a fan of movies, dont get me wrong, i watch a film a day with lovefilm and others, and all my books on my bedside are film related autobiogs or books about genres and methods. I love film.
But are you really telling me that when you have a massive website like this and there is a new game release that has lots of history and many good memories to many people they should just not write about it?
I think you are just being grumpy, if you dont like it, dont read it, there's plenty of other stuff to keep you happy on here, and its not taking up valuable pages of next months mag. All this website stuff is free yes? gratis? so chill out man.

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Great Article - 16/2/2009 4:18:57 PM   
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Ignore the whining crybabies, this was a GREAT article. Took me down memory lane, and served to greatly enhance my hype for Street Figher IV. I can't wait to return to my old favourite Sagat!

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RE: Great Article - 17/2/2009 1:54:19 PM   
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Street Fighter over Mortal Kombat anyday.

Apart from in regards to the movies. I loved MK when I was a nipper.

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Ahem - 18/2/2009 6:39:19 PM   
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One word: Tekken. 'Nuff said.

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- 19/2/2009 2:36:49 AM   
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The street fighter film with Jean claude van damme was terrible!! Kylie Minogue sounded like she had a cold!!! she spoke with such a crap English accent!!

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