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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 31/10/2011 3:55:44 PM   
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Hayao Miyazaki, David Fincher, Terence Malik, Kurosawa, Luis Bunuel and Mel Gibson (and yes I think Passion is a good film).

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 31/10/2011 9:46:18 PM   
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Hayao Miyazaki, David Fincher, Terence Malik, Kurosawa, Luis Bunuel and Mel Gibson (and yes I think Passion is a good film).


Passion IS a good film, the production values are top notch, acting, directing but the best bit? That fucking scary Satan guy/woman - scares the shit out of me he/she does!! Reminds me of that other scary fucker, Pazazu! Aaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Happy Halloween!

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 2:59:10 PM   
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Yeah that fucker is disturbing, even more so when it has that creepy baby with it. But my favourite bit is when Jesus is making the table. It's a great peaceful moment amid all the extreme violence. Guess i'm just a big softie deep down ha ha.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 5:12:41 PM   
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Yeah that fucker is disturbing, even more so when it has that creepy baby with it. But my favourite bit is when Jesus is making the table. It's a great peaceful moment amid all the extreme violence. Guess i'm just a big softie deep down ha ha.


It also completely ridiculous, its basically saying Jesus invented the table and chairs!!! WTFF? Its almost as bad as his depiction of the Battle of Stirling Bridge (the keyword being Bridge) which according to Braveheart took place in a large open field?!!!! Where's the f***ing bridge??!!!!!

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 6:45:30 PM   
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I agree, it is totally inaccurate but in the context of the film it's a nice moment between Jesus and his mother. Braveheart is guilty of the same thing but it never bothers me, it's still an excellent film and directors always take creative liberties with historical films. (Just check out U571; now that is a really bad example)

But back on topic I don't think Werner Herzog has ever directed a bad film.



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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 6:52:39 PM   
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I agree, it is totally inaccurate but in the context of the film it's a nice moment between Jesus and his mother. Braveheart is guilty of the same thing but it never bothers me, it's still an excellent film and directors always take creative liberties with historical films. (Just check out U571; now that is a really bad example)

But back on topic I don't think Werner Herzog has ever directed a bad film.



Agreed on pretty much all counts. And Herzog is God.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 7:18:27 PM   
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I agree, it is totally inaccurate but in the context of the film it's a nice moment between Jesus and his mother. Braveheart is guilty of the same thing but it never bothers me, it's still an excellent film and directors always take creative liberties with historical films. (Just check out U571; now that is a really bad example)

But back on topic I don't think Werner Herzog has ever directed a bad film.



Agreed on pretty much all counts. And Herzog is God.


Let's just hope that he makes more films with Nic Cage. I think they could strike up a great partnership just like Herzog did with Kinski. Scorsese did a something similar replacing De Niro with DiCaprio and it's worked out pretty well and Cage has made some stinkers in recent years so sticking with Herzog may not be a bad idea

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 7:21:36 PM   
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I agree, it is totally inaccurate but in the context of the film it's a nice moment between Jesus and his mother. Braveheart is guilty of the same thing but it never bothers me, it's still an excellent film and directors always take creative liberties with historical films. (Just check out U571; now that is a really bad example)

But back on topic I don't think Werner Herzog has ever directed a bad film.



Agreed on pretty much all counts. And Herzog is God.


Let's just hope that he makes more films with Nic Cage. I think they could strike up a great partnership just like Herzog did with Kinski. Scorsese did a something similar replacing De Niro with DiCaprio and it's worked out pretty well and Cage has made some stinkers in recent years so sticking with Herzog may not be a bad idea



Absolutely but Cage is no Kinski. Here's a link to the Herzog and Kinski threads if you want to give your two cents.

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=2618193

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=8245


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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 1/11/2011 11:55:15 PM   
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Agreed on pretty much all counts. And Herzog is God.



Amen!


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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 1:39:15 AM   
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Scratch Herzog off the list. Aguirre is terrible.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 1:55:55 AM   
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I think Herzog rules. Aguirre is amazing.


Fixed that for you.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 2:01:59 AM   
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^ This...

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 10:59:07 AM   
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Only seen about two thirds of his output but I wasn't keen on Aguirre either and My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done was terrible.
Think I prefer his documentaries.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 11:38:10 AM   
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My input to this:

David Fincher
Stanley Kubrick
Martin Scorcese
Orson Welles
David Lean
Robert Zemekis
Paul Thomas Anderson

Def not Speilberg - Indy 4 was atrocious

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 12:16:54 PM   
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Scratch Herzog off the list. Aguirre is terrible.





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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 12:24:29 PM   
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My input to this:

David Fincher
Stanley Kubrick
Martin Scorcese
Orson Welles
David Lean
Robert Zemekis
Paul Thomas Anderson

Def not Speilberg - Indy 4 was atrocious


Have to disagree with you on Scorsese - yes the guy is a genius but Bringing Out The Dead was pretty poor and I'm not a fan of The Age of Innocence either. But his recent output stands up really well to his old classics. I have yet to see Kundun though - any good?

David Fincher Can't wait for Dragon Tattoo.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 6:36:29 PM   
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I've never seen a below average Scorsese film, but there are a few I have yet to see including those ^^^.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 2/11/2011 6:57:28 PM   
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Not counting his documentaries, the only Scorsese film that I liked since Goodfellas was The Departed. I thought Shutter Island was just plain awful.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 3/11/2011 6:12:39 PM   
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Since Goodfellas I would say Cape Fear, Casino, The Departed, The Aviator and Shutter Island were all good to great movies.  

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 3/11/2011 6:37:59 PM   
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Since Goodfellas I would say Cape Fear, Casino, The Departed, The Aviator and Shutter Island were all good to great movies.  


I'd add Gangs Of New York to that list too. And The Age Of Innocence. And Bringing Out The Dead. There's not much wrong with Kundun either, even if it is a diversion from the rest of his body of work. I don't think Scorsese has ever made an all out bad film. New York, New York is a little bit too long, but thats my one major complaint with the guys entire filmography.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 11/12/2011 1:23:06 PM   
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David Fincher.  And yes I frickin' love Alien 3 thankyouverymuch.


Alien 3 was great. No guns changed the dynamic totally. But Benjamin Button did my head in.
I was just confused as to why they would think that was an interesting idea at all.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 11/12/2011 1:30:38 PM   
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I think as good as Fincher is I think we have to agree that panic room tarnishes his catalogue.
I would add Benjamin Button which I thought was emotionally flat, and abstract with no point.

Tarantino is definitely up there but some might argue Death Proof.

Nolan's filmography is way solid.

I would say Wes Anderson:

Bottle Rocket (great)
Rushmore (great)
Royal Tenenbaums(great)
The Life Aquatic (favourite)
Darjeeling limited (awesome)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (Hilarious)

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 11/12/2011 1:51:31 PM   
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Hayao Miyazaki, Terence Malik, Kurosawa, Luis Bunuel.


Good shouts, Kurosawa and Bunuel are especially rather impressive, they have a great number of films under their name and the weakest there mostly come out as being "really good".


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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 11/12/2011 8:10:28 PM   
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Carl Th. Dryer?
I'm always impressed by his small but outstanding body of work.
Also F.W. Murnau and Sergei Eisenstein.

My pretentiouse arthouse hat is starting to get a little heavy.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 11/12/2011 8:20:15 PM   
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Carl Th. Dryer?
I'm always impressed by his small but outstanding body of work.
Also F.W. Murnau and Sergei Eisenstein.

My pretentiouse arthouse hat is starting to get a little heavy.


Murnau is the business.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 13/12/2011 2:24:13 PM   
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Billy Wilder has made lesser films but wouldn't consider any of them bad.

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 13/12/2011 5:25:17 PM   
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Carl Th. Dryer?
I'm always impressed by his small but outstanding body of work.
Also F.W. Murnau and Sergei Eisenstein.

My pretentiouse arthouse hat is starting to get a little heavy.


Murnau is the business.


I'm as big a fan of Murnau as the next guy, but would struggle to sit through Die Finanzen des Großherzogs again. It's by no means bad, but not particularly enjoyable. While I love Dreyer myself, but have friends who would rather eat their own eyeballs than have to view Gertrud for a second time!

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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 13/12/2011 7:30:14 PM   
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Hayao Miyazaki, Terence Malik, Kurosawa, Luis Bunuel.


Good shouts, Kurosawa and Bunuel are especially rather impressive, they have a great number of films under their name and the weakest there mostly come out as being "really good".



I see you didn't include Gibson in that quote.


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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 13/12/2011 9:33:47 PM   
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It must be either Nolan, Mallick, Davies or Kurosawa (though I haven't seen all of his).



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RE: Are there any directors we can agree on who hasn't ... - 14/12/2011 8:34:33 PM   
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Bleeder is so *f*ing boring and infuriating.

Put me off Refn untill Driver (only one of his I've been interested in seeing.)

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