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Sickening! - 12/2/2009 1:41:00 PM   
Duane Barry


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It's sickening that it's not even on release in my city!!! BASTARDS.

I was a little dismayed when I saw the gorno trailer & heads exploding & chair legs thru eye sockets & a guy in a transformers looking grinder pit & Eighties lazers for lighting etc - and in the same moment I thought FUCK YEAH!

I used to get the comics in the late eighties & loved the tone, all serious, brooding & revenge fuelled. Brainless or not this looks the part & I really wanted to see it.

Personally I loved LOVED Ang Lee's "HULK" & thats what Castle needs. Hulk Smash Warzone's gore violence together with Rambo's social (ish) commentary by way of HULKS existensionalism & they will have the required formula (I even liked thomas Jane as Castle but stephenson really looks the part) -

Im giving this 5 stars because because I dont know any better & Castle haters suck! (Unless they hate the Lundgren version in which case there alright!)

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RE: Sickening! - 12/2/2009 5:20:39 PM   
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This is probably going to sound stupid but I was actually disappointed with this.  I was expecting brainless, uber-violent fun throughout but found it quite boring for the most part.  And (this may make me sound like a sicko) but I didn't think it was particularly violent or gory either.

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RE: Sickening! - 13/2/2009 9:14:35 AM   
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What?! Castle punched a guy in the face and his fist came out the back! How is that not gory?

I loved it! Ludicrously violent action film that (personally) made Commando look tame. Stevenson was suitably brooding as The Punisher and looked part and killed very brutally and efficiently (loved his use of a rocket launcher on those parkeur idiots!).

The only problem I had was the tone whenever the villains were on screen. Dominic West and co clearly thought they were in a completely different film. Still, good fun and it's a shame we won't see any more Punisher adventures but Ray Stevenson clearly has a future ahead of him as a major kicker of ass, but then anyone who has ever seen Rome would know that.



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RE: Sickening! - 16/2/2009 2:41:43 PM   
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BAH! After this debacle, there is only one true course of action! Get Garth Ennis on scripting duties and bring Punisher back to 'NAM!
I like mindless ultra-violence as much as the next person but with Ennis on board The Punisher can stop being a laughing stock and take his place as the complex sociopath of the Marvel film universe!

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A firm rebute - 16/2/2009 7:04:55 PM   
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Listen up couch critics. Stop your moaning!!! I would understand your complaints if this were a review of a movie like LOTR, or Terminator Salvation. BUT, it's a review of a very crap movie indeed. ONLY WORTHY OF ONE OR TWO PARAGRAPHS. So, Empire, keep up the good work. And to the rest - SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Have a good day.


Executed with a subtlety of a train wreck and the eloquence of an avid Nuts magazine reader I suspect. Keep quiet you guttersnipe. A firm rebut.

I assume this film is the most faithful to the comics? No Howard Saint for instance.

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Punisher Warzone - 17/2/2009 1:36:29 PM   
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Start bad & get better by all means but the 2003/4 version with Thomas Jane was way superior in quality. Punisher Warzone negates the 2003 version & seems to be a made for tv alternative a bit like the dire Crow series in the mid nineties. This is more like the Dolph Lungren version but a bit better but is too reliant on gore & makes the Punisher charachter pointless & the bad guy is such a naff actor its unreal I understand why it only got a weeks release at the cinema & too be fair that was too long should have gone originally as planned and straight to dvd. Like the Darkman films probably with a different actor in each sequel.......

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Punisher Warzone - 17/2/2009 1:36:31 PM   
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Start bad & get better by all means but the 2003/4 version with Thomas Jane was way superior in quality. Punisher Warzone negates the 2003 version & seems to be a made for tv alternative a bit like the dire Crow series in the mid nineties. This is more like the Dolph Lungren version but a bit better but is too reliant on gore & makes the Punisher charachter pointless & the bad guy is such a naff actor its unreal I understand why it only got a weeks release at the cinema & too be fair that was too long should have gone originally as planned and straight to dvd. Like the Darkman films probably with a different actor in each sequel.......

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RE: Punisher Warzone - 22/2/2009 10:07:33 PM   
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Surprise surprise i fricking loved it!! Over the top gore/action was perfect for a punisher movie. Stevenson is the punisher he's perfect for the role. So much better then jane's pretty boy punisher. That film had more gloss and it didnt really fit the punisher character, This one is darker more rough around the edges but it suits punisher so much more. Dominic west did a pretty good job as jigsaw he treid to play it jokerish but didnt really work with the rest of the film?
Sure the plot kinda sucked (microchip was a massive underused character) and some of the acting was amaturish (jigsaw's bro and the fbi guys wife was acted of the screen by her daughter!!) from the majority of the cast but i left with a massive smile on my face and can't wait for an unrated/uncut version to come out on dvd!!!

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RE: Punisher Warzone - 1/4/2009 1:19:52 PM   
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The acting is incredible, Ive never seen something this terrible before. The thick accents are way over the top, especially that from the free-running rasta-Irishman. Somehow though, it seems to work, going from so bad its actually pretty good. The movie as a whole doesnt take itself seriously and actually is a fitting B-Movie title.


You can read my full review here: http://y2neil.com/reviews/review.php?id=36

The violence was immense, the opening massacre caught me and I thought we were onto something here, but then it lost it all. Shoot 'Em Up it could have been...but wasn't.


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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 1/4/2009 2:07:45 PM   
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Well, the level of violence on screen is probably the closest thing possible, in terms of hitting that Ennis carnage. I liked that. The action scenes were fairly good, there were a lot of nods to Ennis' fans, characters, or variations of characters, from his sensationally good run on Punisher Max strewn about the film. Stevenson handles himself quite well, believeable as the world's premiere psycho vigilante. There should have been more character development however, Ennis manages to convey the inner workings of Frank through subtle means, and that should have been incorporated to better effect. And then of course there are the numerous other faults, the horrible performance from Doug Hutchison, possibly the worst N.Y. accent I've ever heard in my life. Talk about miscasting and then some. Colin Salmon is incredibly boring, the direction from Lexi Alexander is ordinary, besides the action which in all it's insanity is amusing (probably done by second unit) and the script feels like a couple of studio douchebags who quickly read through the entire MAX series and decided, "hey, let's cram as much of the shit in as possible and not give a fuck about character". That said, I took some enjoyment from the film, the aforementioned uber-violence is quite fun and Dominic West is hilarious as Jigsaw.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 1/4/2009 8:00:39 PM   
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Greatness.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 2/4/2009 5:45:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya

Well, the level of violence on screen is probably the closest thing possible, in terms of hitting that Ennis carnage. I liked that. The action scenes were fairly good, there were a lot of nods to Ennis' fans, characters, or variations of characters, from his sensationally good run on Punisher Max strewn about the film. Stevenson handles himself quite well, believeable as the world's premiere psycho vigilante. There should have been more character development however, Ennis manages to convey the inner workings of Frank through subtle means, and that should have been incorporated to better effect. And then of course there are the numerous other faults, the horrible performance from Doug Hutchison, possibly the worst N.Y. accent I've ever heard in my life. Talk about miscasting and then some. Colin Salmon is incredibly boring, the direction from Lexi Alexander is ordinary, besides the action which in all it's insanity is amusing (probably done by second unit) and the script feels like a couple of studio douchebags who quickly read through the entire MAX series and decided, "hey, let's cram as much of the shit in as possible and not give a fuck about character". That said, I took some enjoyment from the film, the aforementioned uber-violence is quite fun and Dominic West is hilarious as Jigsaw.


He's class aint he?  That speech he gives in front of the US flag had me pissing myself.

Love this film.


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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 2/4/2009 5:50:06 PM   
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I love that Castle is able to wander the streets holding huge guns and no one bats an eyelid. Its like the entire city is in on the deal.

Best free running yet! Pretty much sums up my feelings for that new style of action.

And Jigsaw is like something that wandered in from the 1960s Batman show. A truely awe-inspiring performance.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 7/4/2009 9:18:42 AM   
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Someone give Dominic West an Oscar.... fucking awesome!

When Puisher War Zone was first announced as being a reboot from the 2003 Thomas Jane film, I was a bit gutted.  I liked Thomas Jane as Punisher, but I thought the film was a bit lacking apart from two good scenes (The Russian fight being the highlight).  I thought that after the set up in that film, there was room to move Tom Jane to New York and really make him The Punisher. 

When the first trailers for War Zone hit and news of bad buzz around the movie came I was dreading it, so I missed it in cinemas.  I then heard from various people that it was a pretty decent action film so I got me a copy now it's on release in the US, and I have to say I really, really enjoyed it.  A perfect guily pleasure movie!

I was worried about Lexi Alexanders use of light, all the contrasting neons in the trailer put me off.  However, after 15 minutes of the film I really started to warm to it.  I was worried about the look of The Punisher, although Stevenson looked the part, I wasn't sure about the hulking great flak jacket he was wearing and the almost non existant Punisher skull symbol.  Again, after 15 minutes that worry went away and I just bought into the fact that Ray Stevenson could quite easily smash his fist through a guys face.  Admittedly though, I did miss the Punisher symbol, it's barely visible.

After 15 or so minutes of this film any worries just went and I realised that everyone taking part was pretty much playing this tongue in cheek.  The ludicrous Italian American accents were awesome, the OTT violence was so mental that it was obvious to me everyone involved was just kinda pushing it like little boys.... "How far can we go with this? Wouldn't it be hilarious if they let us show this guys face explode from the shotgun?! hahaha".  I can totally imagine those kind of conversations on set during the making of it.  It's mental. 

The real stars of the show though, the ones that really hit home how gut bustingly piss funny and awesome this film is, are Jigsaw and Looney Bin Jim.  Jigsaw in particular is just brilliant during every second of screen time.  I loved the scene when he has a little weepy breakdown with his brother, so his brother smashes the mirrors up.  Blatantly played for laughs, and anyone complaining about the wuality of acting is surely missing the point here?  As mentioned earlier, Jigsaws recruitment speech in front of the American flag was fucking fantastic, cut together with the rousing music and Jigsaw and LBJ marching down the street, brilliant brilliant stuff.  Dominic West, I salute you!

The epitome of a guily pleasure, Friday night beer movie. 

Just thinking of Dominic West's bonkers acting as he threatens the little girl and her mom in her house as he smashes up plates just makes me smile.  Best OTT bonkers movie villain since Bennett? He just maybe.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 7/4/2009 7:22:09 PM  1 votes
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper

Someone give Dominic West an Oscar.... fucking awesome!

When Puisher War Zone was first announced as being a reboot from the 2003 Thomas Jane film, I was a bit gutted.  I liked Thomas Jane as Punisher, but I thought the film was a bit lacking apart from two good scenes (The Russian fight being the highlight).  I thought that after the set up in that film, there was room to move Tom Jane to New York and really make him The Punisher. 

When the first trailers for War Zone hit and news of bad buzz around the movie came I was dreading it, so I missed it in cinemas.  I then heard from various people that it was a pretty decent action film so I got me a copy now it's on release in the US, and I have to say I really, really enjoyed it.  A perfect guily pleasure movie!

I was worried about Lexi Alexanders use of light, all the contrasting neons in the trailer put me off.  However, after 15 minutes of the film I really started to warm to it.  I was worried about the look of The Punisher, although Stevenson looked the part, I wasn't sure about the hulking great flak jacket he was wearing and the almost non existant Punisher skull symbol.  Again, after 15 minutes that worry went away and I just bought into the fact that Ray Stevenson could quite easily smash his fist through a guys face.  Admittedly though, I did miss the Punisher symbol, it's barely visible.

After 15 or so minutes of this film any worries just went and I realised that everyone taking part was pretty much playing this tongue in cheek.  The ludicrous Italian American accents were awesome, the OTT violence was so mental that it was obvious to me everyone involved was just kinda pushing it like little boys.... "How far can we go with this? Wouldn't it be hilarious if they let us show this guys face explode from the shotgun?! hahaha".  I can totally imagine those kind of conversations on set during the making of it.  It's mental. 

The real stars of the show though, the ones that really hit home how gut bustingly piss funny and awesome this film is, are Jigsaw and Looney Bin Jim.  Jigsaw in particular is just brilliant during every second of screen time.  I loved the scene when he has a little weepy breakdown with his brother, so his brother smashes the mirrors up.  Blatantly played for laughs, and anyone complaining about the wuality of acting is surely missing the point here?  As mentioned earlier, Jigsaws recruitment speech in front of the American flag was fucking fantastic, cut together with the rousing music and Jigsaw and LBJ marching down the street, brilliant brilliant stuff.  Dominic West, I salute you!

The epitome of a guily pleasure, Friday night beer movie. 

Just thinking of Dominic West's bonkers acting as he threatens the little girl and her mom in her house as he smashes up plates just makes me smile.  Best OTT bonkers movie villain since Bennett? He just maybe.
#

The film had me right from the off when Stevenson slaps the fuck-up on those people at the dinner table.  Old lady?  Neck snap.  Old lady 2?  kick to the face.  Goons - knife, shot, diving head-butted, machine gunned, head chopped off.  All within 2 minutes.....pure gold!


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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 12:17:50 PM   
Timon


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Three words:

Fist. Through. Face.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 12:51:49 PM   
Kazuya


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kenada_woo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya

Well, the level of violence on screen is probably the closest thing possible, in terms of hitting that Ennis carnage. I liked that. The action scenes were fairly good, there were a lot of nods to Ennis' fans, characters, or variations of characters, from his sensationally good run on Punisher Max strewn about the film. Stevenson handles himself quite well, believeable as the world's premiere psycho vigilante. There should have been more character development however, Ennis manages to convey the inner workings of Frank through subtle means, and that should have been incorporated to better effect. And then of course there are the numerous other faults, the horrible performance from Doug Hutchison, possibly the worst N.Y. accent I've ever heard in my life. Talk about miscasting and then some. Colin Salmon is incredibly boring, the direction from Lexi Alexander is ordinary, besides the action which in all it's insanity is amusing (probably done by second unit) and the script feels like a couple of studio douchebags who quickly read through the entire MAX series and decided, "hey, let's cram as much of the shit in as possible and not give a fuck about character". That said, I took some enjoyment from the film, the aforementioned uber-violence is quite fun and Dominic West is hilarious as Jigsaw.


He's class aint he?  That speech he gives in front of the US flag had me pissing myself.

Love this film.



Definitely, fucking hilarious, just completely out there, in a good way West needs to get more roles, pronto.


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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 12:52:43 PM   
Kazuya


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Three words:

Fist. Through. Face.





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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 1:00:48 PM   
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I really need to see this movie.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 1:02:22 PM   
Kazuya


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Check your brain at the door dude, and get ready for blood and carnage by the truckloads. Fucking insane

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 8/4/2009 1:37:41 PM   
Olaf


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya

Check your brain at the door dude, and get ready for blood and carnage by the truckloads. Fucking insane


Sounds like my kind of movie

< Message edited by Olaf -- 8/4/2009 1:39:42 PM >


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A Awesome Reboot. - 9/4/2009 5:26:38 PM   
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Seeing The Punisher with Thomas Jane as the lead was a bloody and gripping experenice. But when Jane said he won't return for a sequel, it was put into doubt until Ray "Titus Pullo" Stevenson signed up for it and I couldn't wait. Due to horrid times at my local cinema, I bought the region 1 dvd after months of waiting and finally saw it. After killing a uncover agent, the Punisher is considering quitting his fight against evil but when he is told that a mad mob boss is alive and has called himself Jigsaw, he must fight and protect the family that is in danger of his dangerous hands. Yes, it very gory and the fight scenes are shocking to look at but it has more action that the Jane verison ever had. Ray Stevenson is perfect as Frank Castle, not totally good-looking but has the height and the presence of a killer. I was totally taken by his pefomance though the script had some chessy lines and the ending was a little disappointing. Dominic West was also good, showing mence I have never seen him in and played his part well. I don't understand why they didn't like this, I was taken in a bloody and brutal ride and couldn't let go of it. It's a awesome reboot and I hope there will be a sequel with the excellent Stevenson soon.

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RE: GOOD REVIEW - 28/6/2009 9:58:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Halo14

Listen up couch critics. Stop your moaning!!! I would understand your complaints if this were a review of a movie like LOTR, or Terminator Salvation. BUT, it's a review of a very crap movie indeed. ONLY WORTHY OF ONE OR TWO PARAGRAPHS. So, Empire, keep up the good work. And to the rest - SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Have a good day.


you complete tool.

Ok punisher warzone isn't for everyone but it is a very good OTT action movie.  Ray Stevenson was perfectly good as the Punisher and the film achieves nearly everything it sets out to, it isn't trying to win awards like milk, it isn't a miserable critic pleaser its a violent crowd pleaser.

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RE: The Punisher: War Zone - 28/6/2009 10:03:53 PM   
genejoke


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quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper

Someone give Dominic West an Oscar.... fucking awesome!

When Puisher War Zone was first announced as being a reboot from the 2003 Thomas Jane film, I was a bit gutted.  I liked Thomas Jane as Punisher, but I thought the film was a bit lacking apart from two good scenes (The Russian fight being the highlight).  I thought that after the set up in that film, there was room to move Tom Jane to New York and really make him The Punisher. 

When the first trailers for War Zone hit and news of bad buzz around the movie came I was dreading it, so I missed it in cinemas.  I then heard from various people that it was a pretty decent action film so I got me a copy now it's on release in the US, and I have to say I really, really enjoyed it.  A perfect guily pleasure movie!

I was worried about Lexi Alexanders use of light, all the contrasting neons in the trailer put me off.  However, after 15 minutes of the film I really started to warm to it.  I was worried about the look of The Punisher, although Stevenson looked the part, I wasn't sure about the hulking great flak jacket he was wearing and the almost non existant Punisher skull symbol.  Again, after 15 minutes that worry went away and I just bought into the fact that Ray Stevenson could quite easily smash his fist through a guys face.  Admittedly though, I did miss the Punisher symbol, it's barely visible.

After 15 or so minutes of this film any worries just went and I realised that everyone taking part was pretty much playing this tongue in cheek.  The ludicrous Italian American accents were awesome, the OTT violence was so mental that it was obvious to me everyone involved was just kinda pushing it like little boys.... "How far can we go with this? Wouldn't it be hilarious if they let us show this guys face explode from the shotgun?! hahaha".  I can totally imagine those kind of conversations on set during the making of it.  It's mental. 

The real stars of the show though, the ones that really hit home how gut bustingly piss funny and awesome this film is, are Jigsaw and Looney Bin Jim.  Jigsaw in particular is just brilliant during every second of screen time.  I loved the scene when he has a little weepy breakdown with his brother, so his brother smashes the mirrors up.  Blatantly played for laughs, and anyone complaining about the wuality of acting is surely missing the point here?  As mentioned earlier, Jigsaws recruitment speech in front of the American flag was fucking fantastic, cut together with the rousing music and Jigsaw and LBJ marching down the street, brilliant brilliant stuff.  Dominic West, I salute you!

The epitome of a guily pleasure, Friday night beer movie. 

Just thinking of Dominic West's bonkers acting as he threatens the little girl and her mom in her house as he smashes up plates just makes me smile.  Best OTT bonkers movie villain since Bennett? He just maybe.


Thankyou a sensible review.

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RE: Sickening! - 29/6/2009 12:14:24 AM   
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The review was way off the mark..........Would have given 4 stars. Great OTT violence and Ray Stevenson is the mutts nuts as the punisher. Always was a huge punisher fan when growing up and this definately captures the spirit of the comic and more- gun porn, 'rightful' violence etc. Nice to see a movie that is just plain fun with no pretention of deeper message etc. We all like to see really bad guys get messed up and that ultimately is what the punisher is all about.
recommended mindless, big boys fun. This is what DVD rental is all about!

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Punisher: Warzone - 9/7/2009 5:38:48 PM   
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The best Punisher film yet simply because it is dark, gruesome and quite frankly bloody disgusting. Ray Stevenson may not have many excellent lines to speak but this doesn't necessarily matter for the character, what matters is how he looks and the action he brings and boy does he get that spot-on. The shoot outs are entertainingly frantic and the fights often disturbingly brutal. Nothing can prepare you for the opening of the film, which is by all means a bloodbath. As a matter of fact I found all the cast did not give a bad performance, with Dominic West and especially Doug Hutchinson's performances being more stand-out. The effects may look a little muddled in places but the make-up is excellent, Jigsaw's face looks frighteningly real. However all this is well and good but the narrative, as a result of the excessive need to sicken, feels a bit muddled as director Alexander tries to create too many plotlines to follow that are easily forgotten when the action kicks in. As well as this the punisher comes across as a conflicting ideology as he is administering the violence into society that he is punishing others for. As evident by past cinema punts the punisher is a more nice' superhero and by increasing levels of violence to an all time high and wearing its 18 certificate as a badge of honour, the widespread appeal for the film is reduced further. Bottom line the film is not for everybody and some will more likely feel revulsion than entertainment. However if you like the punisher comics and your gore, you can't go far wrong with this. As it remains more loyal to the source material and Stevenson' punisher is undeniably the best yet, add on some big and flashy action and brutal lead villains and you've got a dark and twisted superhero (or vigilante) movie which can sicken and entertain its target audience in equal amounts.

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Erm Empire - 19/7/2009 1:52:06 PM   
Matthew Elliott


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(Don't actually think this film is worth 4 stars - think I was replying to another review that gave it that)

Why does it say this film is a U? Well Dracula is a 12 now so I can't be suprised... The times they are a changing!!!!

I actually really enjoyed this film as I watched it off the bat of reading the Ennis Dillon stuff and found it to be pretty similar in tone. I felt it was like a guilty pleasure in the fact that I knew it was rubbish, but once I had seen it I couldn't wait until I would see it again. Definatly my favourite Punisher yet (how the crap 1980s film has got a higher rating I will never know. Stevenson was perfect... wishing for a sequel with possibly Barricuda, as long as they keep stevenson I'm game!!!!

Wow I only intended to write a line or two... I really need to stop rabbling!!!

"This is just the beggining" ... no its not Frank this is the end of the movie what are you talking about

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RE: I've got a bigger ding dong than you - 23/7/2009 12:03:23 PM   
Willie Mayes Hayes


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War Zone gets firmly stamped Disappointment. Superb, over-the-top violence, let down by too many characters played straight. McNulty (yes, McNulty) got the tone spot on, everyone else missed the mark. Loony Bin Jim was just Annoying Miscast Jim. The rest of the cast were all too serious, in a film that couldn't and shouldn't be taken seriously. Should the blame be laid at the feet of the director? I'd say so.

And, okay, bonus points for a fist-hollowed face. But if there's one lesson to be learned from Punisher: War Zone, it's - if you amp up the violence so high, you better amp up the characters too.

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RE: Sickening! - 23/7/2009 4:32:27 PM   
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I almost hate myself for saying it....but I quite enjoyed the film. When it was over on the Empire Future Films forum I was constantly venting spleen but I wasn't as upset at the final product as I thought I'd be. It wasn't perfect obviously but it wasn't terrible either.

For background I'm a massive fan of the Garth Ennis stories that both this and the Tom Jane version both drew heavily from. However I found the Tom Jane one plodding and dull whereas this version was just over the top and actually quite fun. It played up some of the more ridiculous aspects without going totally out the window.

IMO Ray Stevenson is far better in the role than Jane although his Punisher is much more like the Garth Ennis MAX version whereas Jane's performance was closer to the darkly humerous Punisher from regular Marvel Comics by Ennis. The MAX/Stevenson Punisher is a lot more brutal, serious and straightforward - physically Stevenson was a great match.

Dominic West was OK as Jigsaw, pretty over the top but fit the movie tone well enough. Really disliked Dough Hutchison as LBJ though, not a bad character as such (created specially for the film) but he just didn't work for me. The accent was painful.

Julie Benz was pretty annoying but I didn't really care for the inclusion of the wife and child of an agent slain by The Punisher subplot anyway. I get that the idea was to show a softer side to Castle but it was horribly cliche.

Colin Salmon was very good but wasted in a lousy part, Dash Mihock (sp?) was particularly annoying as Soap.

The action was pretty good if nothing new, the more extreme head explosions were a bit much but not as glorified as I'd been fearing. My main issue with the film is how Lexi Alexander decided with her cinematographer to light and frame the thing so different scenes have different colour schemes to import that "comic book feel". I knew from the trailers it was a bad idea and the finished film drive that home, it was a bold move but just reminded me too much of the neon hell of Joel Schumachers Batman films at times.

As a fanboy I'm also bemused as to the amount of supporting characters from the MAX story arcs that were thrown in, seemingly at random, when each of them in theory could have been major threats for Castle in future installments. Pittsy (who wasn't Inks Dad), Ink (who never spoke other than saying "Huh"), Nicky Cavella (who was never an FBI agent by the way), MacGinty (who was never a freerunner), Tiberiu (was pretty spot on in his limited screentime). I was half expecting Barracuda to show up somewhere but I guess the producers wanted to save him for a sequel.

Then again, I can't see a sequel happening considering this was a flop. It's kind of a shame because I'd like to see Ray Stevenson back in the role just with a less cartoony script and a more competent director. Looks like it's 3 strikes and out though for this character (if you include the straight to video Dolph Lundgren effort from years back).

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RE: Sickening! - 5/8/2009 2:32:03 PM   
shandyman


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Saw this the other week, shortly before Taken.

On the plus side :

* Some amusingly casual violence, like the dude who gets his face shot off.
* Julie Benz
* Glass recycling
* Jigsaw's rousing speech.

Negatives

* Ray Stevenson wore too much body armour (and should have shown how proper hard he was by just rolling in the trademark T-shirt. Suspect his "guns" weren't up to Tom Jane's, so he kept 'em under wraps).
* Julie Benz failed to remove outer garments.
* LBJ not killed immediately (at least before he got to any dialogue).    

Top effort !

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