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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:11:11 PM   
rupert303


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Ok, been plying these games for years, and while I haven't payed the latest version, I had FM08.

Formation wise, keep it simple:

4-4-2 - with player presets as base

2 ultra defensive centre backs (hard tackling) who come forward to attack corners.

2 fullbacks on a custom setting between defensive and normal (normal tackling), with forward runs, that stick to the sidelines and cross from deep

1 defensive midfielder. Ultra defensive, hard tackling, tracking back left and right (at the same time - trust me!).

1 normal midfielder. You'll have to fiddle with his settings until you find a good balance between going forward, but not too psycho - with a bit more added creativity. (normal tackle)

2 wingers - put the crosses onto mixed - forward runs all the way to the end of the pitch. (light tackle)

1 striker, brought down and in slightly, running up and across to fill the hole. Bring his attack mindedness down and creativity up. (light tackle)

1 out and out striker, running straight into the box. attack mindedness up, creativity down. (light tackle)

If you get it right it will never fail.

And remember to establish a first 11 and stick with it as much as you can - don't rotate unless you need to. this means the players know where they stand, and when you get injuries the reserves will start pushing for a first team place. And stick to your tactics! If you like to close the game down at 2-0 with a 5th defender then keep doing it, or if you always throw on a 3rd striker when you need a goal then always do it! This way your players will start to learn your tactics and respond (and you find out who makes the grade or not).

You must also keep recruiting youth players for your under 18's and reserves, getting better coaches and scouts etc... don't fuck around with the training through, it never seems to work.

wow, that was like a tutorial.



I'll try this now, thanks Rupert!

Who do I be though?!

Someone give me a good-to-average team in the EPL or Championship, go!


Try Man City, that's who I'd be in 09...loads of cash (I'd expect) but with enough scope to build your own team.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:12:30 PM   
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Ooh, good one!
I'd feel guilty about getting Mark Hughes sacked though


Fuck it.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:13:38 PM   
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I tried to be Man City in 09 and it was hilarious. Because you aren't in the Champions League, tehre's only a certain type of player you can buy - the crazies. I had the most mentally unbalanced team of all time - Cassano, Riquelme, Arshavin, Dida, Gattuso. Plus Steven Ireland and Robinho. It was good while it lasted

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:15:36 PM   
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I tried to be Man City in 09 and it was hilarious. Because you aren't in the Champions League, tehre's only a certain type of player you can buy - the crazies. I had the most mentally unbalanced team of all time - Cassano, Riquelme, Arshavin, Dida, Gattuso. Plus Steven Ireland and Robinho. It was good while it lasted


I'm being them!

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:21:52 PM   
rupert303


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Cassano's always a twat and all.

Try and find a Brazilian kid called Lulinha - was bloody amazing when I had him...better than Fabregas.

Stick to players from your own nationality too. Specially the kids. Go Brazilian with English as a second language and your scouts will start finding all these amazing kids in the Brazilian leagues a couple years in.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:22:40 PM   
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Talking of Cesc I got him at Barca for £62m 

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:26:33 PM   
rupert303


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Sergio Aguero is amazing too, he's so fast!

Pace and acceleration are the two most important aspects in the game. Try not to buy too many short people as well.

There's an American kid called Freddy Adu who's always really good, too, for some reason

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:26:36 PM   
Rhubarb


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Talking of Cesc I got him at Barca for £62m 


Class!

I love being Barca, because they play football as I like it to be played - attacking. Barca are awesome.


Re Cassano - He's bloody good though. If he sorted himself out he'd be a world beater. But him falling out with Steven Ireland was basically the begining of the end for me at City

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:27:57 PM   
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Sergio Aguero is amazing too, he's so fast!



He's a brilliant player yeah. I quite like the current Atlético side. Might start a game as them actually.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:33:23 PM   
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Sergio Aguero is amazing too, he's so fast!

Pace and acceleration are the two most important aspects in the game. Try not to buy too many short people as well.

There's an American kid called Freddy Adu who's always really good, too, for some reason


He is actually meant to be really good. So it's probably justified.



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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:34:26 PM   
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On football365 there is a great conference north/south to Champions league challenge. So hard, after 5 years I'm stillin the conference!

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:36:29 PM   
matthewforan


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God that would be hard I got Carlisle to the PL once, when they were in the old Second division.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 8:39:19 PM   
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That's how sad I am I don't get to start a revolution at Citeh.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 9:05:06 PM   
Rhubarb


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On football365 there is a great conference north/south to Champions league challenge. So hard, after 5 years I'm stillin the conference!



That's rough. I find it hard to play beyond about the third season because the game is so unrecognisable by then. I might give the climbing up the leagues a crack though.



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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 9:13:48 PM   
rupert303


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On football365 there is a great conference north/south to Champions league challenge. So hard, after 5 years I'm stillin the conference!


I mate of mine said he did that. Got to admit I thought he was chatting shit. The only way you could do it is by trying to develop load of kids and signing veterans on the cheap for a few seasons.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 9:21:22 PM   
Felix

 

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ORIGINAL: Rhubarb


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On football365 there is a great conference north/south to Champions league challenge. So hard, after 5 years I'm stillin the conference!



That's rough. I find it hard to play beyond about the third season because the game is so unrecognisable by then. I might give the climbing up the leagues a crack though.




Its great fun actually, I'm Havant and Waterlooville and you get a real sense of achievement building a dynasty I've taken Crawley Town from Conference to Champions League in CM03/04 but its tonnes harder in FM.

There is also a 4 Nations Champions Challenge too, where you have to win the League in Norn Iron, Scotland, Wales and England, starting in either Norn Iron or Wales. Now that is hard, I cant see it being done in less than 20 odd seasons.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 11:16:26 PM   
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Well I got Carlisle into the Prem up 3 divisions in 8 years and I won the carling cup the year I got into the Prem. Had this mad Russian guy up front that got 40 goals a season. That's one of my best achivements 

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 6/1/2009 11:51:16 PM   
Rhubarb


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Well, Felix has won me over, I'm about to start a game as Hyde United. Come on the *looks on Wiki* Tigers!

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 12:03:19 AM   
rupert303


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My greatest achievement was coming back from a 5-0 drubbing in the champions league semi final to win the second leg 6-0.

I was literally screaming at my laptop.

Oh dear, all this talk is getting me interesting buying the latest game...this conference to champions league sounds like a challenge.


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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 12:08:43 AM   
Rhubarb


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Just took over at Hyde where if I say I finish in the top half, i get a £0 transfer budget with barely enough wages to cover my squad.

I get the same if I say I'm gonna win the league

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 8:04:09 AM   
Felix

 

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Thats the spirit!!

Basically, the first thing you want to do is decimate your squad. Give anyone in your reserves or Youth team who isnt going to play a free transfer, that way you'll drastically reduce your wage bill and your Youth team isnt going to be good enough to produce and gems anyway for a while!!

My best advice would be to get a parent club and get some players in on loan. I had Pompey at H&W and they were brilliant. One striker they sent me scored 52 goals in 52 games. All hail H&W legend, Paris Cowan-Hall!!

Also, at the end of the first season, go to Arsenal and look at the players they've released on frees. Offer contracts to those who are interested, and repeat with the entire Premier League. They'll most likely only sign 1 year deals, so if they turn out shit you can bin them and repeat the process each season. It usually picks out a few real gems though that stay in the team.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 1:12:46 PM   
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That's a good tactic Felix I like it although i'm gonna leave that challenge for another time bringing 9 in a row to Celtic Park is my target this season.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 1:14:12 PM   
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I shall be retrying the challenge with the mighty H&W once I raise enough funds on PlayTrade to buy FM2009.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 1:19:41 PM   
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I'm using play trade for the first time selling an extra copy of Dark Knight. FM09 is £15 I forget where but I saw it for sure i'll try and find it.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 1:30:55 PM   
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Okay it was at amazon.co.uk but now it's listed at £24 so i'll be skipping it for a while.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 2:18:24 PM   
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I bought FM09 and sold it within 2 days since I don't have a nasa supercomputer so it was slooooooooooooooowwwwwwww. Back to FM08 and just won the prem with Villa. It's a bit annoying how poor Agbonlahor's stats are on the game compared to real life though, ended up flogging him to Valencia. 

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 7/1/2009 4:38:19 PM   
Rhubarb


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Thats the spirit!!

Basically, the first thing you want to do is decimate your squad. Give anyone in your reserves or Youth team who isnt going to play a free transfer, that way you'll drastically reduce your wage bill and your Youth team isnt going to be good enough to produce and gems anyway for a while!!

My best advice would be to get a parent club and get some players in on loan. I had Pompey at H&W and they were brilliant. One striker they sent me scored 52 goals in 52 games. All hail H&W legend, Paris Cowan-Hall!!

Also, at the end of the first season, go to Arsenal and look at the players they've released on frees. Offer contracts to those who are interested, and repeat with the entire Premier League. They'll most likely only sign 1 year deals, so if they turn out shit you can bin them and repeat the process each season. It usually picks out a few real gems though that stay in the team.


Asked my board for a parent club, they came back to me for my advice on three choices.

Birmingham City
Sheffield Wednesday
Man United

Hmmm...Wonder which of those I ought to reccomend...

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 8/1/2009 9:03:35 AM   
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Sheffield Wednesday?

You lucky bastard, I might have to reconsider the mighty H&W and start as Hyde.

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 8/1/2009 3:35:35 PM   
Rhubarb


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Yeah they gave me Man United because of the proximity of the two clubs. Brilliant

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RE: The Football Manager/Championship Manager Thread - 8/1/2009 3:36:33 PM   
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Hyde here I come.

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