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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 1:46:17 PM   
Professor Moriarty

 

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I quite like Enemy of the State.  And of course, let's not forget They Live

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 1:50:47 PM   
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I want those glasses! Why people don't appreciate that film more I just do not know.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 2:26:45 PM   
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024) Apocalypto  (Mel Gibson, USA, 2006) - 6.0
I wasn't overly enamoured by this brutal epic, despite some decent action and an impressive city set. Several reviews point to it being another example of Gibson's revisionism (or just poorly researched), but without much knowledge of Mayan history and culture, other flaws stood out to a greater extent for me. The key one struck in the opening scenes, where the group of hunters share the spoils from the tapir they've just caught. The dialogue and nature of the exchange just didn't feel real - it felt modernised or westernised, and this continued into the scene where they returned to the village. Maybe I've seen too many Bruce Parry documentaries or something, but something was amiss.
And it was made worse by some of the subtitles later in the film (the use of "Mom", the phrase "he's f**ked" etc).

Then there was the very obvious demarcation between the goodies and the baddies, the latter with their black feathered headdress and dodgy teeth. Being a fan of kung fu films, I'm quite used to this sort of thing, but it felt out of place here particularly as the story takes itself so seriously. There's also things like the lead's amazing recovery from his arrow wound to the extent that he could run for (perhaps 12) hours, and the mother and child in the well (just rest against the side of the well and you'll easily float!).

It wasn't all bad by any means, but these little things became irksome as they kept mounting up (shady animatronic jaguar, anyone?) and detracted from the film as a whole. Certain elements could have done with expansion to stop them from just being plot devices - the accurate prediction from the spooky disease-ridden child (in her dubbed voice), the ominous arrival of the Spanish ships, maybe even the society in the city.

Watchable, but flawed and a little hollow.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 3:49:46 PM   
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Why people don't appreciate that film more I just do not know.



I've always been convinced that most people love it until the Roddy Piper/Keith David "Put on the glasses!" fight scene. Then they have to switch it off in disbelief and not return to it for about five years. Or maybe that's just me.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 4:08:57 PM   
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5
 
Singin' in the Rain (Donen & Kelly, 1952)
The Lord of the Rings (Jackson, 2001, 2002, 2003)

 
4.5
 
Into the Wild (Penn, 2007)

Bambi (Hand, 1942)
Milk (Van Sant, 2008)
The Lion King (Allers & Minkoff, 1994)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (Fincher, 2008)
Slumdog Millionaire (Boyle, 2008)
The Wrestler (Aronofsky, 2008)
Frost/Nixon (Howard, 2008)
A Man Escaped (Bresson, 1956)
The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
Man on Wire (Marsh, 2008)

Back to the Future (Zemeckis, 1985)
 
4
 
Volver (Almodovar, 2006)
Swing Time (Stevens, 1936)
In Bruges (McDonagh, 2008)
Ocean's 11 (Soderbergh, 2001)
On the Town (Donen, Kelly, 1949)
Che: Part 1 (Soderbergh, 2008)

A Few Good Men (Reiner, 1992)
Halloween (Carpenter, 1978)
Au Hasard Balthazar (Bresson, 1966)
Die Hard (McTiernan, 1988)
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (Lee Jones, 2005)
Advise and Consent (Preminger, 1962)
 
3.5
 
Shrek (Adamson & Jenson, 2001)

The Virgin Spring (Bergman, 1960)
Vicky Christina Barcelona (Allen 2008)
[.REC] (Balaguero and Plaza, 2007)
The Bandwagon (Minnelli, 1953)
Ocean's 13 (Soderbergh, 2007)
A Star is Born (Cukor, 1954)
 
3
 
Pretty Woman (Marshall, 1990)
Rope (Hitchcock, 1948)

Valkyrie (Singer, 2008)
Defiance (Zwick, 2008)
American Gangster (Scott, 2007)
The Wizard of Oz (Fleming ,1939)
The River (Renoir, 1951)
Meet Me In St. Louis (Minnelli, 1944)
 
2.5

Ocean's 12 (Soderbergh, 2004)

Ringu (Nakata, 1998)
High School Musical 3: Senior Year (Ortega, 2008)
The Dead (Huston, 1987)
Le Plaisir (Ophuls, 1952)
Get Smart (Segal, 2008)
Stormbreaker (Bettencourt, 2006) 

2
 
Hercules (Clements & Musker, 1997)

The Smiling Lieutenant (Lubitsch, 1931)

 
1.5


1
 
The Spirit (Miller, 2008)
 
0

 
 
 
PERFORMANCES
 
1. Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler)
2. Sir Ian McKellen (The Lord of the Rings)
3. Emile Hirsch (Into the Wild)
4. Sean Penn (Milk)
5. Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight)
6. Michael Sheen (Frost/ Nixon)
7. Benicio Del Toro (Che: Part 1)
8. Penelope Cruz (Volver)
9. Michael J. Fox (Back to the Future)
10. Gene Kelly (Singin' in the Rain)
11. Hal Holbrook (Into The Wild)
12. Balthazar (Au Hasard Balthazar)
13. Brendan Gleeson (In Bruges)
14. Penelope Cruz (Vicky Christina Barcelona)
15. Frank Lagella (Frost/ Nixon)
16. Gary Oldman (The Dark Knight)
17. Francois Leterrier (A Man Escaped)
18. Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings)
19. Javier Bardem (Vicky Christina Barcelona)
20. Josh Brolin (Milk)
21. Tom Cruise (A Few Good Men)
22. Brad Pitt (The Curious Case of Benjamin Button)
23. Fred Astaire (Swing Time)
24. Brad Pitt (Ocean's 11)
25. Gene Kelly (On The Town)
26. Marisa Tomei (The Wrestler)
27. Bruce Willis (Die Hard)
28. Colin Farrell (In Bruges)
29. Dev Patel (Slumdog Millionaire)
30. Sam Rockwell (Frost/ Nixon)
31. Aaron Eckhart (The Dark Knight)
32. Ralph Fiennes (In Bruges)
33. Manuela Velasco ([.REC])
34. Judy Garland (A Star Is Born)
35. Oliver Platt (Frost/ Nixon)
36. Max Von Sydow (The Virgin Spring)
37. Tommy Lee Jones (The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada)
38. Bernard Hill (The Lord of the Rings)
39. Alan Rickman (Die Hard)

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 6:44:51 PM   
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Count me in as a fan of They Live. It also happens to have a tremendous Carpenter/Piper commentary track.

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21. Art School Confidential (2006, Zwigoff) 8/10
From the same writer (Daniel Clowes) and director (Terry Zwigoff) as the excellent Ghost World, this may not be as good, but is still very funny and equally sharp. Focusing on a young artist who goes to art college, only to find his work meeting criticism from his less-talented, more-pretentious classmates and teacher (an amusing John Malkovich). Many of the characters are cliches, a point the movie quickly points out to us, but they are well-written enough that a terrific cast (Malkovich, Ethan Suplee, Joel Moore and a superb Jim Broadbent) are able to flesh them out and give them some more depth. The ending, which I wont spoil here, is also exactly right for the story.

24. Imitation Of Life (1959, Sirk) 8/10
My first Douglas Sirk movie and, to be honest, for the first twenty minutes I was having my doubts, with the opening scene depicting two widows (Lana Turner as a white wannabe actress and Juanita Moore as a black lady looking for a home) and their daughters moving in together being a touch twee. However, things soon take a darker twist and the rest of the film is top-notch melodrama, which comes to a head in the powerful scene where Moore's daughter, who has tried to hide her black roots, is assaulted in the streets by her boyfriend who has discovered the truth. While at times Turner's performance is quite overblown, the supporting roles of Moore, who manages to keep her character compelling despite her being almost too perfect, and Susan Kohner , as her conflicted, rebellious daughter, are perfectly balanced and are the standouts of the movie. Sirk's triumph is to combine lavish sets and glamourous characters with strong messages about racism and conformity, and keep his audience enthralled.

57. 8MM (1999, Schumacher) 6/10
Really, a case of what-could-have-been. Written by Se7en scripter Andrew Kevin Walker, apparently David Fincher was the first choice to direct. Instead, it fell to Joel Schumacher, who altered the script to the extent that Walker left the film. This is a film that could really have benefited from Fincher's unflinching direction, as Nick Cage's investigator tries to trace the authenticity of a snuff movie. Although the plot is interesting, and shows Cage's slow loss of humanity as he gets dragged further into a murky underworld, the film doesn't feel as seedy or uncomfortable as it should, not helped by an over-the-top performance by Peter Stomare as the creator of some underground pornography, with the effect that, when anything bad happens, it never feels believable. An interesting tale badly made.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 9:01:28 PM   
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Three films;

The Stars Look Down (1940, Carol Reed)
 
I've started to look further into Carol Reed's body of work, which is quite late considering he directed my favourite film. The only other film I'd seen before this year, Oliver!, is a dissapointment, but things picked up a couple of weeks ago with Odd Man Out, a nightmare-ish Irish noir starring the wonderful James Mason, which is easily a four star film. I decided to follow that up with the Stars Look Down, the story of a man from a small mining village who goes off to university with high hopes of becoming a politician. However, when he falls in love, he drops out and takes a post at a local school, but still continues to fight for miner's rights when he finds out that his father and the rest of the workers and mining in potentially disasterous conditions. Davy Fenwick (Michael Redgrave) is our hero, and he has an Atticus Finch nature about him, in that he fights for what he believes in against overwhelming odds. However, he isn't fighting against racism, he's fighting against - perhaps - an even more powerful  wrong; money. It's a Capra film without the sentimentally, only with a nagging, claustrophobic sense of danger lurking around. The final scenes, when the mines finally give way and the men fight for their lives, are brilliant. Seeing the villagers converge in hopes of saving their loved ones is one of the happiest moments I've had watching films all year, and the grit and determination on display here surpasses the cheese in films like Rocky and Apollo 13 (films I like, by the way) because it's real; determination spawned partly out of love, and partly out of fear. 4/5.

The Reckless Moment (1949, Max Ophuls)
 
My Ophuls journey continued with this Hollywood outing that evokes the noir stylings of the time and place. The Reckless Moment is the story of Lucia Harper (Joan Bennet), a mother who only wants the best for her child. This child, Bea Harper (Geraldine Brooks), is courting a man twice her age, who is unsuccesful, and involved in shady business. One thing leads to another, and Bea ends up setting up the events that lead to the man's death, but she doesn't realize it. Lucia, on the other hand, does, and tries to cover it up. Bea's love letters are found by James Mason, and he begins to blackmail Lucia for the sum owed to him by the murder victim. The film's central theme is the what lengths a mother would go to for the good of her child. Lucia's love for Bea, even after the arguments that populate the soap-opera-esque first twenty minutes, drives her to imaginable lengths; whether that's attempting to loan five thousand dollars from all kinds of sources or covering up for her with the police. The film's second best interludes are the ones that show this obsession with saving her child, and Joan Bennet puts in a fine performance, brimming with anxiety and desperation. However, this is trumped by James Mason's wonderful portrayal of the debt collector Martin Donelly who eventually falls in love with Lucile. Smarmy, charismatic, soothing, and likeable all in even amounts, this is perhaps the best Mason performance I've seen to date (although I only have North by Northwest, Lolita, and Odd One Out to compare it to), and every scene he is in is lifted thanks to his charm... a charm that isn't exactly easy to describe. 4/5.

Letters from an Unknown Woman (1948, Max Ophuls)
 
And the second Ophuls film in a double bill that I had this afternoon, Letters from an Unknown Woman is a romantic drama about a woman who writes anonymous letters to a man explaining the life she has had and how she has always loved him from afar. They have a child together that only she knows about, they have met numerous times under numerous circumstances, and she has rejected several other men out of misplaced loyalty to him. The man, Stefan (Louis Jordan), is a succesful pianist in an orchestra, while the woman is neither classy or well off. Here, Ophuls tells the story of what love can do to a person. It isn't just part of Lisa Berndl's (Joan Fontaine) life, it becomes her life. There is nothing else but Stefan, and the things that surround him. Some may say that she's obsessive or even stalking him, but it's clear that this is just an over-exaggerated portrayal of how crazy love can send someone. However, love doesn't end up saving Lisa's life, like you'd expect. Instead, it destroys it, sending her into an obsessive and unending limbo. The one man she wants is just out of her reach, and no other compares. This isn't love in its rose tinted form; this is the gritty, dark, and unpleasing kind. The performances are a mixed bag. Joan Fontaine is excellent, brimming with femininity and enough charm to seduce any piano player. Her performance is best described as pepetual longing, but it's fleshed out with other characteristics that make this a fully three dimensional performance, like regret at lost chances and hope for a future with the man she loves. Louis Jordan, on the other hand, doesn't hold up his end of the bargain. His character is somewhat interesting - misogynistic because of his love of women rather than his hate of them - but the performance is lazy, with the little of interest to note except for a boring, drawling and positively off-putting accent. 4/5.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 16/3/2009 9:55:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DCMaximo

57. 8MM (1999, Schumacher) 6/10
Really, a case of what-could-have-been. Written by Se7en scripter Andrew Kevin Walker, apparently David Fincher was the first choice to direct. Instead, it fell to Joel Schumacher, who altered the script to the extent that Walker left the film. This is a film that could really have benefited from Fincher's unflinching direction, as Nick Cage's investigator tries to trace the authenticity of a snuff movie. Although the plot is interesting, and shows Cage's slow loss of humanity as he gets dragged further into a murky underworld, the film doesn't feel as seedy or uncomfortable as it should, not helped by an over-the-top performance by Peter Stomare as the creator of some underground pornography, with the effect that, when anything bad happens, it never feels believable. An interesting tale badly made.


I actually find 8MM to be somewhat underrated. Though it's not the Se7en-level masterpiece it could have been, I found it a bit odd that it was so critically maligned (then again, I am sucker for thrillers). Some odd casting, though both James Gandolfini and especially Joaquin Phoenix are excellent. I totally disagree with you one thing though - I was uncomfortable for most of the time watching the film.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 5:07:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kadaj

5
The Lord of the Rings (Jackson, 2001, 2002, 2003)


2. Sir Ian McKellen (The Lord of the Rings)
18. Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings)
38. Bernard Hill (The Lord of the Rings)






8. The Odd Couple (9th view, 1968, Gene Saks) - 4/5
Always loved this, easily one of the funniest films I’ve seen. Damn near every line is a winner, the excellent cast zinging them back and forth. The group of poker players is one of the finest little gatherings on screen, but Lemmon and Matthau take the acting honours.

32. The Motorcycle Diaries/Diarios de motocicleta (2nd view, 2004, Walter Salles) - 4/5
Excellent performances from the two leads, beautiful location scenery, a great road film, the kind that makes you want to get up and go on an odyssey yourself. Still think it’s a bit too patchy though, great distances and passages of time are overlooked. Gustavo Santaolalla’s score is amazing.

33. The International (1st view, 2009, Tom Tykwer) - 4/5*
Effiecient and intelligent globe-trotting thriller. The standout set piece, a shootout in the Guggenheim museum, could well end up being one of the scenes of the year (Always amazes me though, the lengths some films take. Why replicate a well-known building and then practically destroy it and not just use some unknown location?) The fact that’s is has some relevance today – banks making life a misery – is of no difference to me, just all part of the story, and quite a good one it is.

36. The King (2nd view, 2005, James Marsh) - 4/5
Leisurely pace, great sense of mood, setting and character, a great gothic tale. Intense and compelling with great turns from Gael Garcia Bernal and William Hurt.

47. After Hours (2nd view, 1985, Martin Scorsese) - 4/5
Splendid black comedy from Scorcese, probably one of his most light-hearted and underrated films.

118. Barbershop (1st view, 2002, Tim Story) - 2/5*
The serious bits are too preachy, the comedy moments unfunny and it all ends up being very predictable.



18. Walther Matthau as Oscar Madison in The Odd Couple
23. Gael García Bernal as Ernesto Guevara de la Serna in The Motorcycle Diaries
28. Jack Lemmon as Felix Unger in The Odd Couple
31. Rodrigo De la Serna as Alberto Granado in The Motorcycle Diaries
46. Gael García Bernal as Elvis Valderez in The King
63. William Hurt as Pastor David Sandow in The King
80. Pell James as Malerie Sandow in The King


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 8:09:53 AM   
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72. Metropolis (1927, Lang) - 4/5
Let's be clear, here. Once this film finished, I knew I had watched something 'great'. The visuals were unparalleled for their time and are absolutely amazing to look at, the Expressionism style shines through clearly and gives the film an obvious, intriguing singular identity as a science fiction Expressionism film, and the themes of class co-operation and the problems of capitalism and communism are well-handled and delivered incredibly effectively. Also, surprising me for a film style priding itself on histrionics and theatrics, the acting's all very good and the actors make these over-the-top characters believable and relatable, Alfred Abel faring best in his sensational performance as Metropolis' founder, Joh Federsen (who looks not unlike the G-Man from Half-Life). However, despite my acknowledgment that this film was, indeed, 'great', I felt no real connection with it, and came away a little cold and unaffected. It was rather disappointing, really, particularly when my first silent film last week (The General), was so amazing and funny and heartfelt, and this was just detached.

94. Con Air (1997, West) - 3.5/5
This is not a film you can take seriously, and everyone involved seems to know it. It's shockingly over-the-top, it's gratuitously cheesy, it's ridiculously hamfisted, and yet everyone seems to realise this and takes to the opportunity to create what might well best the single best unintentional parody of the modern action genre ever devised. The acting is stunningly cheesy, Nic Cage making you laugh with every second line delivered in that ridiculous Alabama accent and Malkovich absolutely carving up the screen in a scenery-chewing performance. The setpieces are impeccably filmed and brilliant in their silliness, and the dialogue is shockingly funny ("CY!" "-onara." being the zenith - or nadir, I can't quite decide - of the film's script). However, there's no denying the effectiveness of the scenes in which Steve Buscemi's indiscriminate killer is having a tea party with a dirt-covered young girl at an isolated airfield.

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Alfred Abel as Joh Fredersen (Metropolis, 1928)


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 8:12:19 AM   
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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 8:13:44 AM   
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8. The Odd Couple (9th view, 1968, Gene Saks) - 4/5
Always loved this, easily one of the funniest films I've seen. Damn near every line is a winner, the excellent cast zinging them back and forth. The group of poker players is one of the finest little gatherings on screen, but Lemmon and Matthau take the acting honours.



"You leave me little notes on my pillow. Told you 158 times I can't stand little notes on my pillow. "We're all out of cornflakes. F.U." Took me three hours to figure out F.U. was Felix Ungar!"


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 8:53:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

8. The Odd Couple (9th view, 1968, Gene Saks) - 4/5
Always loved this, easily one of the funniest films I've seen. Damn near every line is a winner, the excellent cast zinging them back and forth. The group of poker players is one of the finest little gatherings on screen, but Lemmon and Matthau take the acting honours.



"You leave me little notes on my pillow. Told you 158 times I can't stand little notes on my pillow. "We're all out of cornflakes. F.U." Took me three hours to figure out F.U. was Felix Ungar!"




 I love that quote, it's hilarious and made my sister want to watch the film, great stuff.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 1:29:12 PM   
DCMaximo


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ORIGINAL: DCMaximo

57. 8MM (1999, Schumacher) 6/10
Really, a case of what-could-have-been. Written by Se7en scripter Andrew Kevin Walker, apparently David Fincher was the first choice to direct. Instead, it fell to Joel Schumacher, who altered the script to the extent that Walker left the film. This is a film that could really have benefited from Fincher's unflinching direction, as Nick Cage's investigator tries to trace the authenticity of a snuff movie. Although the plot is interesting, and shows Cage's slow loss of humanity as he gets dragged further into a murky underworld, the film doesn't feel as seedy or uncomfortable as it should, not helped by an over-the-top performance by Peter Stomare as the creator of some underground pornography, with the effect that, when anything bad happens, it never feels believable. An interesting tale badly made.


I actually find 8MM to be somewhat underrated. Though it's not the Se7en-level masterpiece it could have been, I found it a bit odd that it was so critically maligned (then again, I am sucker for thrillers). Some odd casting, though both James Gandolfini and especially Joaquin Phoenix are excellent. I totally disagree with you one thing though - I was uncomfortable for most of the time watching the film.


I enjoyed it, especially for the first hour when Cage was slowly submerging himself in this underground scene, but some of the "black market" porn shops felt faintly ridiculous and I couldn't help but think it would be more disturbing if the villains had any kind of depth. Sure, the Machine claims he just likes killing people, but when you have four main culprits who are tied up in this and the only motivation seems to be money, I felt a little let down. I will agree though that Phoenix was terrific, probably the best thing in the film.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 1:43:18 PM   
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The best thing about Metropolis is the fact it inspired the music video for Radio Ga Ga






I'd say that is the worst thing about it.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 1:44:34 PM   
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33. The International (1st view, 2009, Tom Tykwer) - 4/5*
Effiecient and intelligent globe-trotting thriller. The standout set piece, a shootout in the Guggenheim museum, could well end up being one of the scenes of the year (Always amazes me though, the lengths some films take. Why replicate a well-known building and then practically destroy it and not just use some unknown location?) The fact that's is has some relevance today – banks making life a misery – is of no difference to me, just all part of the story, and quite a good one it is.



Glad you enjoyed it - and I know this sounds really dumb, but I genuinely wondered if they filmed in the real thing!

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  94. Con Air (1997, West) - 3.5/5


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 1:49:41 PM   
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I love Con Air. Yes, the film's a bit ridiculous, but that's not what I'm thinking when I'm watching. Malkovich is absolutely fantastic.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 1:59:00 PM   
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46. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Hughes, 1986)- 6/10

I really dislike this film. Ferris is a smug asshole. It's saving grace is Alan Ruck as Cameron. If the movie had been about him, it would have been more interesting.

48. Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)- 5/10

A stupid comedy. And not even funny.

1. Alien (Scott, 1979)

An absolutely perfect film. Great direction from Scott.


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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 2:01:42 PM   
Dantes Inferno


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Have you seen The Breakfast Club - a much superior film (also by Hughes)? I'd recommend that. Not a big fan of Ferris Bueller or his film.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 4:12:01 PM   
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5
The Lord of the Rings (Jackson, 2001, 2002, 2003)


2. Sir Ian McKellen (The Lord of the Rings)
18. Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings)
38. Bernard Hill (The Lord of the Rings)








It'll probably please you to know Gimli, that myself and my corridor participated in the full  Lord of the Rings Extended Edition (what else?!) marathon; that's right- complete geek central, about just over 11 hours, none-stop with disgusting Dominoes pizza (half pepperoni, half vegi deluxe).
I postponed an essay to watch, but the funniest part was that my friend ultimately contracted an eye-infection and told the doctor it was Lord of the Rings related.

Still the best trilogy out there; although I am planning the Dollars marathon and Back to the Future, but they have drawn the line at Apu and Ozu, which is a shame (they are a very narrow-minded bunch).

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 4:23:26 PM   
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Have you seen The Breakfast Club - a much superior film (also by Hughes)? I'd recommend that. Not a big fan of Ferris Bueller or his film.


I have, and it's the standard I hold all other John Hughes films to.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 17/3/2009 6:12:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kadaj

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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

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ORIGINAL: Kadaj

5
The Lord of the Rings (Jackson, 2001, 2002, 2003)


2. Sir Ian McKellen (The Lord of the Rings)
18. Viggo Mortensen (The Lord of the Rings)
38. Bernard Hill (The Lord of the Rings)








It'll probably please you to know Gimli, that myself and my corridor participated in the full  Lord of the Rings Extended Edition (what else?!) marathon; that's right- complete geek central, about just over 11 hours, none-stop with disgusting Dominoes pizza (half pepperoni, half vegi deluxe).
I postponed an essay to watch, but the funniest part was that my friend ultimately contracted an eye-infection and told the doctor it was Lord of the Rings related.

Still the best trilogy out there; although I am planning the Dollars marathon and Back to the Future, but they have drawn the line at Apu and Ozu, which is a shame (they are a very narrow-minded bunch).


Did the same think in November last year. 8pm to 8am. It was awesome.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 2:30:58 AM   
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The Departed - Dodgy accents aplenty. Di Caprio gives about the only good performance in a film that is entertaining for the most part but awfully scripted and excessive. It is also probably Matt Damon's worst performance.

Gangs of New York - Dodgy accents aplenty. Another good performance from Di Caprio, excellent from Day Lewis, and the production values are convincing, although the supporting cast is weak. The plot between Amsterdam and Bill the Butcher is well juxtaposed against historical circumstance, although again, this is Scorsese to excess and superfluity.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 5:20:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

The best thing about Metropolis is the fact it inspired the music video for Radio Ga Ga




I'd say that is the worst thing about it.



Booooooooo!


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ORIGINAL: elab49

Glad you enjoyed it - and I know this sounds really dumb, but I genuinely wondered if they filmed in the real thing!



I wasn't sure myself at first, but I found an article online. Built it in Germany it seems.


Kadaj and Piles, you're making me jealous. I haven't done the three back-to-back in years!

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 9:26:36 AM   
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Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
An ellipitical, loosely autobiographical, stream of consciousness? Stream of gibberish, more like. Oh, there's some nice imagery here and there, alright, but a few pretty pictures can't compensate for a lack of logic, plot or anything even vaguely interesting. Tarkovsky himself said "There are no entertaining moments in the film. In fact I am categorically against entertainment in cinema". Well at least he got that right. Fail. (2/10)

Bullets Over Broadway (Woody Allen, 1994)
A uniformly excellent cast enjoy themselves in a witty and clever period farce. It's probably lacks an emotional impact and you can't help wishing a young Allen in the lead, but this is still fine and snappy entertainment (8/10)

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 9:38:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MOTH

Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
An ellipitical, loosely autobiographical, stream of consciousness? Stream of gibberish, more like. Oh, there's some nice imagery here and there, alright, but a few pretty pictures can't compensate for a lack of logic, plot or anything even vaguely interesting. Tarkovsky himself said "There are no entertaining moments in the film. In fact I am categorically against entertainment in cinema". Well at least he got that right. Fail. (2/10)






I hate you........It found it very interesting, and one of his finest. Most of it is dreams and memories, not sure how those follow logic, the only bit in present day reality. I loved the way in memories we both see a life, from childhood, to married life. It is an interesting puzzle were consciousness history, life and dreams are combined. And the last bit in fields with the music of Bach St Matthew PAssion is one of the greatest use of music and image in cinema. Yes, there is no conventional plot and the lack of logic criticism is strange.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 11:04:59 AM   
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I hate you........It found it very interesting, and one of his finest. Most of it is dreams and memories, not sure how those follow logic, the only bit in present day reality. I loved the way in memories we both see a life, from childhood, to married life. It is an interesting puzzle were consciousness history, life and dreams are combined. And the last bit in fields with the music of Bach St Matthew PAssion is one of the greatest use of music and image in cinema. Yes, there is no conventional plot and the lack of logic criticism is strange.


sorry, i have an innate dislike of films that intentionally shun any semblence of coherence under the banner of 'art' or 'expression' - it's pretentious and self-indulgent film-making at best, confused and pointless at worst.
But I give them a chance and a fair few win me over in spite of myself. This one didn't.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 12:04:34 PM   
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Barton Fink (Joel Coen,1991) 9/10
Classic Coen Brothers this for me, one of their top five, vivid, wonderfully acted by a finely slected cast of great character actors,beautifully shot, with lovely use of sound and editing,overall tightly plotted keeping you involved right until the end.

Three Monkeys (Nuri Bilge Ceylan,2009) 8/10
Eerie, complex psychology thriller, intresting use of tension, and questions with a fine performance from Hatice Aslan, not as uncompesed as Climates, it does fall down in the final half, still one of the years must see films so far.

Boogie (Radu Muntean,2009) 7/10
The impressive run of Romanian cinema countines!  Naturelisstic, skilfully handled and acted, if with certain weak streads and with characters sometimes playing plot devises or cephers.

Milk (Gus Van Sant,2009) 7/10
Soild, overall gripping Bio-pic, Sean Pean is on fine form, still a little overated, and for me Rourke still should've got the Oscar!

99 Francs (Jan Kounen,2007) 6.5/10

Black Widow (Bob Rafelson,1987) 6.5/10
Largely diserpointing thriller.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 12:34:31 PM   
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Glad you enjoyed it - and I know this sounds really dumb, but I genuinely wondered if they filmed in the real thing!



I wasn't sure myself at first, but I found an article online. Built it in Germany it seems.




Good to know - it was damn convincing.

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RE: Top 100 Films I've Wathced This Year: 2009 - 18/3/2009 2:22:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Deviation

I hate you........It found it very interesting, and one of his finest. Most of it is dreams and memories, not sure how those follow logic, the only bit in present day reality. I loved the way in memories we both see a life, from childhood, to married life. It is an interesting puzzle were consciousness history, life and dreams are combined. And the last bit in fields with the music of Bach St Matthew PAssion is one of the greatest use of music and image in cinema. Yes, there is no conventional plot and the lack of logic criticism is strange.


sorry, i have an innate dislike of films that intentionally shun any semblence of coherence under the banner of 'art' or 'expression' - it's pretentious and self-indulgent film-making at best, confused and pointless at worst.
But I give them a chance and a fair few win me over in spite of myself. This one didn't.


I found it quite coherent, it is not pretentious (films like Batman Begins, The Prestige, The Butterfly Effect are) and it did feel like Tarkovsky was expressing himself. Self-indulgent, maybe yes, but not pretentious. Then again, all art is pretentious and self-indulgent in a way.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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