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RE: ROBOCOP - 27/9/2012 12:42:54 PM   
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Remake still coming up! Major skepticism still present? Check.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 11/10/2012 4:53:08 PM   
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Have to join in with the Robocop love-in. It's definitely in my top 5 action films. The 80's was probably THE best decade for action movies as far as I am concerned. This film has it all, brilliant plot, sterling performances for all concerned, outstanding practical effects which makes today's CGI efforts look pretty piss poor, you can almost FEEL the weight of Robocop and ED209 as they strut there stuff, something that CGI can never capture. To top it off it has a dark sense of humour and level of violence which just wouldn't make past any mainstream studios marketing and accounts departments these days.

One of the subtler scenes I love is when Morton get's his own keys to the "Executive Bathrooms" a sure sign that he is moving up in the world and then proceeds to bad mouth Jones as he's taking a piss. Then Jones comes out of the cubicle and one of the other guys literally pisses on his pants in his hurry to leave.

"You just fu*ked with the wrong guy buddy boy"

All that is messed up about office politics and corporate culture, summed up in a 2 minute scene in a toilet...perfect.

Verhoven this was your shining moment.

Oh and while Robocop 2 isn't as good as the first overall (that little gangster kids freaks the hell out of me for a start) it does have some brilliant moments which almost match the quality of the first. Kaine getting his life support switched off while he helplessly looks on so that he can be put into transplanted into his cyborg chassis is ace and the final battle is priceless. One of the stand out moments being Kaine's roar of anguish and clanking rush UP the elevator shaft to get some payback for Robo dropping him down a lift shaft

Oh and after seeing some stills of the new suit for the remake.....I have a doubt.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 11/10/2012 6:17:44 PM   
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RE: ROBOCOP - 12/10/2012 4:08:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Don_a_van

Have to join in with the Robocop love-in. It's definitely in my top 5 action films. The 80's was probably THE best decade for action movies as far as I am concerned. This film has it all, brilliant plot, sterling performances for all concerned, outstanding practical effects which makes today's CGI efforts look pretty piss poor, you can almost FEEL the weight of Robocop and ED209 as they strut there stuff, something that CGI can never capture. To top it off it has a dark sense of humour and level of violence which just wouldn't make past any mainstream studios marketing and accounts departments these days.

One of the subtler scenes I love is when Morton get's his own keys to the "Executive Bathrooms" a sure sign that he is moving up in the world and then proceeds to bad mouth Jones as he's taking a piss. Then Jones comes out of the cubicle and one of the other guys literally pisses on his pants in his hurry to leave.

"You just fu*ked with the wrong guy buddy boy"

All that is messed up about office politics and corporate culture, summed up in a 2 minute scene in a toilet...perfect.

Verhoven this was your shining moment.

Oh and while Robocop 2 isn't as good as the first overall (that little gangster kids freaks the hell out of me for a start) it does have some brilliant moments which almost match the quality of the first. Kaine getting his life support switched off while he helplessly looks on so that he can be put into transplanted into his cyborg chassis is ace and the final battle is priceless. One of the stand out moments being Kaine's roar of anguish and clanking rush UP the elevator shaft to get some payback for Robo dropping him down a lift shaft

Oh and after seeing some stills of the new suit for the remake.....I have a doubt.


Yeah that scene in the executive bathroom is really, really tense, you mention the guy pissing himself on account of wanting to leave pronto when Jones shows up, I don't blame him, Jones must be one of the most evil villains I've ever seen, in fact the whole rogues gallery for this flick is top of the line, some completely sinister bastards on display. Always creeps me out when Jones grabs Miguel Ferrer's hair, that instant switch from slightly homo-erotic to psychotic. Superb acting from them both. Ronny Cox should have spent his whole career playing villains for Verhoeven.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 12/10/2012 4:31:12 PM   
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Agreed, top notch villainous line-up, you wouldn't really want to cross ANY of them, except if you're Robocop

What is also very telling is just how much this film got right about how our future world might turn out, some of it is spooky in fact. Also a minor detail but I always thought the matt grey police cars where very cool and now 25 years later many manufacturers make "special edition" matt grey cars,

Ahead of it's time I tell ya.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 12/10/2012 4:40:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Don_a_van

Agreed, top notch villainous line-up, you wouldn't really want to cross ANY of them, except if you're Robocop

What is also very telling is just how much this film got right about how our future world might turn out, some of it is spooky in fact. Also a minor detail but I always thought the matt grey police cars where very cool and now 25 years later many manufacturers make "special edition" matt grey cars,

Ahead of it's time I tell ya.


The coal-black, irony-laced humour is definitely what sets the film apart, and it certainly predicted alot of the ultra capitalistic, commercial-ridden shit we deal with in modern society, I agree.

Love the cars as well.



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RE: ROBOCOP - 13/10/2012 12:01:32 AM   
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I'll take your word for it, but I have never seen a matte car like that. I'm still waiting for the Enforcement Droids.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 13/10/2012 9:39:29 AM   
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Probably gonna be a long wait

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RE: ROBOCOP - 13/10/2012 5:21:05 PM   
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Regarding the human hand still being there on this new Robo i think Bob Morton sums up my opinion..

'' I thought we agreed on full body prosthesis so lose the arm ok? ''

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RE: ROBOCOP - 15/10/2012 5:14:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

Regarding the human hand still being there on this new Robo i think Bob Morton sums up my opinion..

'' I thought we agreed on full body prosthesis so lose the arm ok? ''


All the characters so bloody cold-hearted, I love it. This from Dick Jones in the bathroom with Bob Morton is another classic.

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RE: ROBOCOP - 17/10/2012 4:38:40 PM   
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RE: ROBOCOP - 15/12/2012 11:00:45 PM   
rich


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"Bye-bye baby"

Did anyone else never notice the little joke in the end credits (the final unauthorised distribution ... etc part) ?



Also - I found this earlier after tonights viewing of Robocop

http://www.thehighball.com/uncategorized/robocop-live-recap/




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RE: ROBOCOP - 15/12/2012 11:17:00 PM   
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I don't want to be that guy, but yeah, the one hand that doesn't have a glove in the remake looks goofy.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 18/12/2012 4:25:33 PM   
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Just Brilliant!!

Fuck the reboot too!!. Just sayin

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 4/6/2013 7:56:58 PM   
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RoboCop 2 directed by Irvin Kershner, WHAT!?!?!?!?!??! EMPIRE DIRECTOR! HELL YES!!! I just found this out yesterday and was quite baffled when I realized it. Great film, fun but no where near Empire.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 7/6/2013 10:21:57 AM   
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Why the fuck did you revive the thread for this horse shit reboot! you have broken a prime directive!! alt ctl delete!!! 10 seconds to comply arrrghhhhhhh!!

'' I thought we agreed on full body prosthesis so lose the arm ok? '' _Bob

This movie WILL (imo) SUCK THE BIG ROBOBALLS!

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 8/6/2013 1:38:03 AM   
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Um, nobody bumped it for the reboot?

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RoboCop 2 directed by Irvin Kershner, WHAT!?!?!?!?!??! EMPIRE DIRECTOR! HELL YES!!! I just found this out yesterday and was quite baffled when I realized it. Great film, fun but no where near Empire.


Yeah Robocop 2 sucked. He did the non-Eon Bond movie Never Say Never as well.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 10/6/2013 10:00:21 AM   
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Um, nobody bumped it for the reboot?

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ORIGINAL: bydabeachman

RoboCop 2 directed by Irvin Kershner, WHAT!?!?!?!?!??! EMPIRE DIRECTOR! HELL YES!!! I just found this out yesterday and was quite baffled when I realized it. Great film, fun but no where near Empire.


Yeah Robocop 2 sucked. He did the non-Eon Bond movie Never Say Never as well.


Oh ok sorry. well, Robocop 2 is a disastrous movie too!

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 10/6/2013 8:38:30 PM   
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Robocop 2 is a masterpiece by todays action movie standards.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 21/9/2013 11:50:02 AM   
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Robocop 2 is a masterpiece by todays action movie standards.


Tragically that's kinda true.

Oh, and the spineless producers behind the upcoming remake can go fuck themselves.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 21/9/2013 5:14:18 PM   
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It has it's moments (Stop or I'll shoot) but I never really liked it. They tried to emulate the feel of the first one at least, unlike the third. The original remains a total 100% classic.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 21/9/2013 6:58:30 PM   
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It has it's moments (Stop or I'll shoot) but I never really liked it. They tried to emulate the feel of the first one at least, unlike the third. The original remains a total 100% classic.


I really don't care for it either, but I still agree with Cool Breeze's post (to a certain extent)

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 23/9/2013 1:40:19 PM   
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The remake cannot be any worse than Robocop 3, it just cannot. Robocop 3 shat all over the Robocop franchise in such an epic way and everyone seems to forget this when laying into the remake. Even if it's an average movie, it will still be leagues ahead of Robocop 3, a movie that 'kiddified' the character twenty years before the remake even got close.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 23/9/2013 2:27:40 PM   
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The remake cannot be any worse than Robocop 3, it just cannot. Robocop 3 shat all over the Robocop franchise in such an epic way and everyone seems to forget this when laying into the remake. Even if it's an average movie, it will still be leagues ahead of Robocop 3, a movie that 'kiddified' the character twenty years before the remake even got close.


It will hardly be a grand acheivement for the remake being better than Robocop 3 DK.

Looking at the trailer for the remake again and it just looks like an Iron Man suit that the guy is wearing and like someone else on this or another thread said, it just looks way too...clean.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 23/9/2013 7:27:06 PM   
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The remake cannot be any worse than Robocop 3, it just cannot. Robocop 3 shat all over the Robocop franchise in such an epic way and everyone seems to forget this when laying into the remake. Even if it's an average movie, it will still be leagues ahead of Robocop 3, a movie that 'kiddified' the character twenty years before the remake even got close.


I don't think it's possible to forget just how bad RoboCop 3 is.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 24/9/2013 1:49:15 PM   
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lol true, would love to see the movie as intended by Fred Dekker, rather than the version we got, hacked to pieces and neutered.

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RE: State of the Art Bang Bang - The RoboCop Thread - 24/9/2013 4:40:54 PM   
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Yeah man, would have been nice to see the film as intended, Dekker got shafted on that one, so did Frank Miller, for the second time, his script for the second film was mangled, also true for the third, which ended up an unholy, spineless amalgamation of both scripts.
But apparently BOOM! comics is issuing Miller's original script for the third as a comic book, just like Avatar Press did with the script for the second film.



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RE: ROBOCOP - 31/12/2013 3:06:27 AM   
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RE: ROBOCOP - 29/1/2014 10:31:56 PM   
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Check out Honest Trailers Robocop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGemfKLV1JA

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RE: ROBOCOP - 29/1/2014 11:03:36 PM   
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Check out Honest Trailers Robocop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGemfKLV1JA


I'd rather jam a rusty kitchen knife under my fingernails, thanks.

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