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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 12:56:27 AM   
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I have a real craving to watch this now......will try and stick it on at some point tommorow.....good way to get in preperation for the festivities.
 
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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 5:38:03 AM   
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"And if I have no teeth than I will gum you!" It's just a ridiculous line, delivered in a ridiculously over the top way, that just works perfectly.




Heh, you're right

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 6:19:21 AM   
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Oh, and who else wants that pic in the first post on a T-shirt? I sure as hell do!



As do I!




I want this one!




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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 9:05:36 AM   
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It does just burrow under your skin doesn't it?

One of the most fascinating exchanges, and pivotal in our understanding of Plainview, is the conversations he has with his 'brother', about hating people. It gives some insight into the final scene. In addition the scene when Eli asks Plainview for his £5000 and Plainview scraps with him and stuff his face with oil, is a precursor to that final face off, I think.



Could well be. I'm sure at some point he says he wants to make enough money to get away from everyone. Basically, he doesn't like people  I find that the tension becomes almost unbearable, but it starts from literally the SECOND the film starts. The opening 15 minutes is just SO incredibly tense,and to pull that off with no dialogue is a work of genius. The scene where the oil catches fire is also both one of the scariest, and most beautiful scenes of the year. Johhny Greenwood should also be praised for his truley breathtaking score

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 11:05:53 AM   
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That relentless musical rhythm that starts when the oil first gushes just doesn't let up until they blow the hole in the next morning. I do wonder if that scene, with the oil coming in big and HW being deafened, all in one scene, isn't the moment where perhaps Plainview starts his descent to the final scene. Consider: that moment is when his fortunes change - he has made it big, with the first major 'ocean of oil' that is his. It's made him, as an oil man. But at the same time that which he has ostensibly used - his adopted son - now provides a major burden on this new journey. It's clear from some scenes that Plainview does have some semblance of feelings for HW (the one where HW returns from his school later on, for instance) but at this moment two parts of his life diverge: his son and his oil. That the injury of one is caused by the other is perhaps something that Plainview never quite justifies in his mind (and his subsequent explosion at Eli for his inability to cure HW, even though he knows he can't, also supports this idea). His life's work has destroyed the closest thing to family he has. And that's important too - throughout the film Plainview is alone, familially speaking. His son is adopted, and his brother is false. 

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 11:24:57 AM   
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While I thought Daniel Day Lewis was bloody amazing and the film undoubtedly an all round quality job there's a coldness to it that prevented me from really loving it.

The final scene however is simply stunning and one of the most insane pieces of cinema I've seen ever, lurching back and forth from absurdity to dark drama. You just have to laugh at the bravura performance from Day-Lewis, hold your hands up and acknowledge one of the greatest actors of all time totally on fire.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 11:33:37 AM   
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Love this film. I personally think Dano is better than Day-Lewis in this, mainly because DDL gets a little moustache-twirling pantomime villain at the end, but it's technically perfect and only let down by some crappy supporting performances (I hate Plainview's fake brother, and not because the character's a spineless fraud).


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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 12:35:11 PM   
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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 3:10:25 PM   
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"I'm your brother... from another mother..."


The film is as much a great drama as it is a dark comedy.

I love Anderson, don't think I'll ever see a bad film from him.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 4:58:22 PM   
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i need to watch this again (its on my christmas list...) but it was awesome.
also has the most intriguing trailer i'd ever seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3THVbr4hlY
i could not get that out of my head for days so had to go see the film.
Stunning cinematography and soundtrack aswell.

yes i REALLY need to see this again.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 5:59:55 PM   
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While I thought Daniel Day Lewis was bloody amazing and the film undoubtedly an all round quality job there's a coldness to it that prevented me from really loving it.


Really? I found it to be quite emotionally engaging.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 24/12/2008 6:37:27 PM   
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"I'm your brother... from another mother..."


First time I saw it, it was at a small, soon-to-be-demolished arthouse cinema with eight or so friends (it was one of their birthdays), and there were, like, five other people in the cinema.

Me and all my friends cracked up laughing at that line, and the old people two rows in front looked at us disapprovingly. It was great.


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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 25/12/2008 11:10:16 AM   
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Just watched it again last night and the scene near the end where H.W comes to see Plainview in his house is just amazing. You can see Plainview's utter disgust with H.W because he's just not anything like him, he's a good person who's doing well with his life and it justs eats Plainview alive. Plainview is full of hatred and you can see it pouring out of him. It's an amazing scene, just so powerful and Day-Lewis just owns the screen from start to finish. Brilliant!

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 25/12/2008 11:35:32 PM   
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Helluva film for Christmas Eve! I like your style!

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 25/12/2008 11:47:52 PM   
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While I thought Daniel Day Lewis was bloody amazing and the film undoubtedly an all round quality job there's a coldness to it that prevented me from really loving it.


Really? I found it to be quite emotionally engaging.


Yeah I agree with The Stew. I was watching Mark Kermode's review of the year thingy on iPlayer, and he played back the scene from your avatar, and he goes from that whisper and everything in that is amazing. When he breaks and starts yelling my whole body goes cold. Its an amazing moment.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 12:29:38 AM   
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I would argue that Paul Thomas Anderson is one of the few big name directors who brings emotion and humanity to his movies. Where someone like Christopher Nolan can come across as quite cold and distant (with the possible exception of The Dark Knight)

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 2:34:33 AM   
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I watched it again today and my opinion improved a bit. Suppose I had different expectations. Still think Plainview is a pretty fragmented performance, but Day-Lewis does wonders in individual scenes even if maybe they don't link up too neatly. Anyway what really stood out and impressed me on this viewing was the soundtrack! One of the finest I've heard for a long time, it didn't really register on my first viewing.


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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 10:31:17 AM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 4:09:04 PM   
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There Will Be Blood is second only to No Country For Old Men in my Top Films of 2008 and currently lies in 3rd place in my Films of the 21st Century (behind NCFOM and Jesse James) but I can see it leapfrogging the Coen’s sublime film because out of the two it‘s the one I find myself wanting to watch more. I haven’t seen NC since January (my first and only viewing) and I have resisted TWBB since my second viewing in March.
 
I found when watching TWBB the second time it evoked similar emotions as to when I watch Hitchcock’s Vertigo, unpleasant feelings of impending doom, I can feel the tension running through the film and my body, slowly building up until the pressure is almost unbearable and you just do not want to see what is going to happen (even though you already know) when that unstable pressure is released, it’s quite a viewing experience, which I love.
 
Err so yeah I like the film too.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 5:08:40 PM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."


I thought quite the opposite. I thought it was Plainview telling Eli the real reason why he agreed to be baptised, and what a sham the whole ceremony had effectively been. That Plainview had just duped Eli and allowed him to get the pipeline. It looked to me like more of a dawning realisation of horror on Eli's face, if memory serves, rather than a putting at east. I may be misremembering it, mind. Guess I'll have to watch it again!


Anyone else notice how we all seem to refer to Daniel Plainview by his surname and Eli Sunday by his first name? Maybe it's because there's a Paul Sunday too, but maybe it's indicative of how we view the characters too.


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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 5:17:06 PM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."


I thought quite the opposite. I thought it was Plainview telling Eli the real reason why he agreed to be baptised, and what a sham the whole ceremony had effectively been. That Plainview had just duped Eli and allowed him to get the pipeline. It looked to me like more of a dawning realisation of horror on Eli's face, if memory serves, rather than a putting at east. I may be misremembering it, mind. Guess I'll have to watch it again!


Anyone else notice how we all seem to refer to Daniel Plainview by his surname and Eli Sunday by his first name? Maybe it's because there's a Paul Sunday too, but maybe it's indicative of how we view the characters too.



He has kind of a look of shock on his face but then starts smiling so I can see why you'd think that too. It's an interesting question regarding the forname/surname issue, perhaps it's because Plainview is such a monster by the end.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 26/12/2008 6:21:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tftrman

I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."


I thought quite the opposite. I thought it was Plainview telling Eli the real reason why he agreed to be baptised, and what a sham the whole ceremony had effectively been. That Plainview had just duped Eli and allowed him to get the pipeline. It looked to me like more of a dawning realisation of horror on Eli's face, if memory serves, rather than a putting at east. I may be misremembering it, mind. Guess I'll have to watch it again!


Anyone else notice how we all seem to refer to Daniel Plainview by his surname and Eli Sunday by his first name? Maybe it's because there's a Paul Sunday too, but maybe it's indicative of how we view the characters too.



I think i agree with you on the whispering too. I can't imagine, considering how Plainview is, that he would sugar coat anything and lie about it once he got his own way. But, due to the fact its a whisper, its left to us to make our own interpretation of it

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 27/12/2008 10:13:14 AM   
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That relentless musical rhythm that starts when the oil first gushes just doesn't let up until they blow the hole in the next morning. I do wonder if that scene, with the oil coming in big and HW being deafened, all in one scene, isn't the moment where perhaps Plainview starts his descent to the final scene. Consider: that moment is when his fortunes change - he has made it big, with the first major 'ocean of oil' that is his. It's made him, as an oil man. But at the same time that which he has ostensibly used - his adopted son - now provides a major burden on this new journey. It's clear from some scenes that Plainview does have some semblance of feelings for HW (the one where HW returns from his school later on, for instance) but at this moment two parts of his life diverge: his son and his oil. That the injury of one is caused by the other is perhaps something that Plainview never quite justifies in his mind (and his subsequent explosion at Eli for his inability to cure HW, even though he knows he can't, also supports this idea). His life's work has destroyed the closest thing to family he has. And that's important too - throughout the film Plainview is alone, familially speaking. His son is adopted, and his brother is false. 


I think you're right! Up to this point, he's still quite vicious, but vicious to get his work done prperly and sell himself to get the job. He's then very agressiive in how he sells himself to the town where he will dig, and to the family who's ranch he wants, he's agressive, but very suttle about it. Once his son is deafened, it does all change, and his hatred for people intensifies to breaking point

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 27/12/2008 7:29:56 PM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."


I thought quite the opposite. I thought it was Plainview telling Eli the real reason why he agreed to be baptised, and what a sham the whole ceremony had effectively been. That Plainview had just duped Eli and allowed him to get the pipeline. It looked to me like more of a dawning realisation of horror on Eli's face, if memory serves, rather than a putting at east. I may be misremembering it, mind. Guess I'll have to watch it again!


Anyone else notice how we all seem to refer to Daniel Plainview by his surname and Eli Sunday by his first name? Maybe it's because there's a Paul Sunday too, but maybe it's indicative of how we view the characters too.


I think it's the stature of the elder statesman why we just use his second name. It's more powerful, if we started calling him Daniel it would not have the same impact. Whereas 'Eli' is just a boy and it's easier too refer to him as such. In my opinion anyway.


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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 27/12/2008 10:48:27 PM   
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i got it for christmas! (arrived today) yay.
watch it next week i expect.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 28/12/2008 2:41:10 AM   
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I would love to join this club. TWBB blew me away. A friend of mine said it was shite but I watched it anyway. Next day, I slapped that friend of mine. It was f***** brilliant (TWBB I mean, but slapping my friend was also quite brilliant)

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 28/12/2008 9:58:58 AM   
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I would love to join this club. TWBB blew me away. A friend of mine said it was shite but I watched it anyway. Next day, I slapped that friend of mine. It was f***** brilliant (TWBB I mean, but slapping my friend was also quite brilliant)


You should've thrown wooden skittles at him!

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 28/12/2008 3:03:50 PM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."



I thought it was "I told you I would eat you! I told you I would eat you up!"

Or am I mistaken?

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 28/12/2008 6:03:01 PM   
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i remember watching the end of the film in an almost empty cinema and deciding it was a masterpiece. im a complete fan of the film and love discussing it with friends. such a powerful film that needs to be seen by all film fans.

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RE: I. Drink. Your. Milkshake. The TWBB Fan Club - 28/12/2008 9:46:28 PM   
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I watched this on Christmas Eve, it gets better with repeat viewings. After the baptism I'm intrigued to know what Plainview said to Eli, you can't hear it but whatever it is puts Eli at ease. I also enjoyed Dano's performance a bit more this time, the way his faith is actually arrogance. Love this film.

"I'm finished."



I thought it was "I told you I would eat you! I told you I would eat you up!"

Or am I mistaken?


Sort of. He says that at the end, which is perhaps a reference to this scene since we don't hear him say that anywhere else.Which would mean he is saying 'I will eat you' which if nothing else is potentially misleading...!


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