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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:09:24 PM   
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are you saying that Obama is NOTa specific character even though he is real and Bond is fictional?


No, that's what you said.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:13:48 PM   
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are you saying that Obama is NOT a specific character even though he is real and Bond is fictional?


No, that's what you said.


when did i say that? quote me

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:14:50 PM   
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No, I'm obviously not saying that at all.

It'd be disrespectful to change the central premise of the character. You might as well make him French, no? The stories have been changed 1000s of times, but the basic premise of the character remains.



how does making Bond black change the central premise of the character?

how would this be disrespectful?



Characters are more than a "central premise".  If they weren't we wouldn't give them backstories, character traits or personalities.


which characters are you referring to?

who is giving them backstories, traits and personalities?


You're trying to gather information for a college assignment, aren't you?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:17:39 PM   
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You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:19:06 PM   
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You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:21:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.


I did.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:23:04 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.


I did.


unless i see the quote to which you refer i can't answer.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:23:58 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb


quote:

ORIGINAL: dhowdy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.


I did.


unless i see the quote to which you refer i can't answer.


I believe it comes after the words You Said.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:32:07 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb


quote:

ORIGINAL: dhowdy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.


I did.


unless i see the quote to which you refer i can't answer.


I believe it comes after the words You Said.


unless you quote me on what you 'claim' i said i cannot answer.

if you cannot quote me then it looks like you may have gotten yourself into a corner...

what's the problem? quote me.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:35:12 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb


quote:

ORIGINAL: dhowdy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.

Or were you just being silly and put yourself in a corner? Its hard to tell.


i said 'quote me'.


I did.


unless i see the quote to which you refer i can't answer.


I believe it comes after the words You Said.


unless you quote me on what you 'claim' i said i cannot answer.

if you cannot quote me then it looks like you may have gotten yourself into a corner...

what's the problem? quote me.



Now you're just being difficult. You're perfectly aware what you said and that its in there, and that is a reasonable explanation, and that you can't argue a way out of it. So you're acting like a six year old instead.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:37:31 PM   
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how am i being difficult?

unless you quote me i cannot answer....quote me..

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:40:08 PM   
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i''m sure they said that about the president of the USA at one point...


Which means, in context, does it not:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.





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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:45:25 PM   
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quote:

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i''m sure they said that about the president of the USA at one point...


Which means, in context, does it not:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

You said that some people said there wouldn't be a black President one day. To bring this up in a conversation about whether James Bond could be portrayed by a black actor, then you must have been comparing the two. So you were saying that James Bond, fictional secret agent, played by various actors. was the same as the position of President of the United States. The comparison was therefore than Bush would be "playing" the President in the same way Craig is "playing" the role of Bond, and thus, you were saying that Bush and Obama were playing the same character.





that is an interesting interpretation of my original quote.

as there are stark differences between what i wrote and what you are 'claiming' i am saying, are you saying that you are able to read my mind and interpret what i write? 

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:49:48 PM   
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No I'm saying that's how any reasonable person would have read it in the context. How did you mean it?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:52:06 PM   
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No I'm saying that's how any reasonable person would have read it in the context. How did you mean it?


i meant what i said...that I was sure they said that about the president of the USA at one point...

what makes you think you are 'reasonable?' not only do you think Bond shouldn't be black but you also think you can read my mind?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 15/5/2009 11:57:25 PM   
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No I'm saying that's how any reasonable person would have read it in the context. How did you mean it?


i meant what i said...that I was sure they said that about the president of the USA at one point...



What did you mean by that statement.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:00:04 AM   
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What did you mean by that statement.


i meant what i said. not what you thought i said.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:00:53 AM   
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What did you mean by that statement.


i meant what i said. not what you thought i said.


I don't get why you bought up Obama's skin colour in a discussion about James Bond.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:06:46 AM   
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quote:

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What did you mean by that statement.


i meant what i said. not what you thought i said.


I don't get why you bought up Obama's skin colour in a discussion about James Bond.


ok. this thread is called 'The Black Bond Question.'

you have already said he shouldn't be black. that for him to be black would be disrespectful.

now imagine this thread was called the 'Black President Question'.

imagine you were saying exactly the same things about the President instead of Bond.

it would sound silly, wouldn't it?

why would it sound silly?

now take those answers and transfer it back to the 'BLack Bond Question' and you have your answer.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:07:15 AM   
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I don't think you can compare the position of President of The United States to the character of James Bond. The first one is a job performed by whoever is considered suitable by the population of the US. Their personality or appearance is not defined by their position, but the opposite. On the other hand, Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career. The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason? I wouldn't object to a black actor playing Bond, but to me it seems like a rather arbitrary gesture.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:09:29 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

What did you mean by that statement.


i meant what i said. not what you thought i said.


I don't get why you bought up Obama's skin colour in a discussion about James Bond.


ok. this thread is called 'The Black Bond Question.'

you have already said he shouldn't be black. that for him to be black would be disrespectful.

now imagine this thread was called the 'Black President Question'.

imagine you were saying exactly the same things about the President instead of Bond.

it would sound silly, wouldn't it?

why would it sound silly?

now take those answers and transfer it to the PResident and you have your answer.




So basically you were comparing the President with the character of James Bond, exactly like I said you were. Cool.

Also, It would be silly for me to say that the President shouldn't be black, because you know the President can be anyone. The President is a bunch of different people, not one person, a set character from a series of books written 50 years ago. The two are incomparable, and by comparing the two, you've basically said everything I said you said. Wasn't so hard was it?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:10:19 AM   
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I don't think you can compare the position of President of The United States to the character of James Bond. The first one is a job performed by whoever is considered suitable by the population of the US. Their personality or appearance is not defined by their position, but the opposite. On the other hand, Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career. The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason? I wouldn't object to a black actor playing Bond, but to me it seems like a rather arbitrary gesture.


and here we go again....

why is a black man playing a character arbitrary?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:11:13 AM   
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Don't do it Olaf, its Chinatown!

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:14:46 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Olaf

I don't think you can compare the position of President of The United States to the character of James Bond. The first one is a job performed by whoever is considered suitable by the population of the US. Their personality or appearance is not defined by their position, but the opposite. On the other hand, Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career. The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason? I wouldn't object to a black actor playing Bond, but to me it seems like a rather arbitrary gesture.


and here we go again....

why is a black man playing a character arbitrary?


Because, as I said:
quote:

Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career.


Or, even better:
quote:

The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason?


Like I said, if a black actor is most suitable for the role then by all means he should be cast. But it's not a question of racial politics, it's about keeping an established character in continuity with his previous appearances on film.


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:15:11 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb


quote:

ORIGINAL: dhowdy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

What did you mean by that statement.


i meant what i said. not what you thought i said.


I don't get why you bought up Obama's skin colour in a discussion about James Bond.


ok. this thread is called 'The Black Bond Question.'

you have already said he shouldn't be black. that for him to be black would be disrespectful.

now imagine this thread was called the 'Black President Question'.

imagine you were saying exactly the same things about the President instead of Bond.

it would sound silly, wouldn't it?

why would it sound silly?

now take those answers and transfer it to the PResident and you have your answer.




So basically you were comparing the President with the character of James Bond, exactly like I said you were. Cool.

Also, It would be silly for me to say that the President shouldn't be black, because you know the President can be anyone. The President is a bunch of different people, not one person, a set character from a series of books written 50 years ago. The two are incomparable, and by comparing the two, you've basically said everything I said you said. Wasn't so hard was it?


i'm not comparing anyone. i'm merely highlighting how at one point it was inconceivable that the president of the USA would be black compared to now.

it might be inconceivable for Bond to be black NOW..but at one point he may very well be black....


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:16:38 AM   
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To use the president as an example, Barack Obama was elected  for no other reason than because he was best for the job. If a black actor is best for Bond, why not?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:18:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Olaf

quote:

ORIGINAL: dhowdy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Olaf

I don't think you can compare the position of President of The United States to the character of James Bond. The first one is a job performed by whoever is considered suitable by the population of the US. Their personality or appearance is not defined by their position, but the opposite. On the other hand, Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career. The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason? I wouldn't object to a black actor playing Bond, but to me it seems like a rather arbitrary gesture.


and here we go again....

why is a black man playing a character arbitrary?


Because, as I said:
quote:

Bond is a fictional character who over the last forty-odd years has built up a backstory, physical appearance, personality, etc. Hence, the actor playing him must fit a specified character, not because of racial discrimination but because that is simply how the character has been presented. Minor changes aside (a Scottish accent here, a blonde hairdo there) he has remained the same character for the length of his career.


Or, even better:
quote:

The real question is not "why not a black Bond?" but "why bother?" Why not create a new character, a black secret agent similar to Bond? Why bother altering an existing character for no real reason?


Like I said, if a black actor is most suitable for the role then by all means he should be cast. But it's not a question of racial politics, it's about keeping an established character in continuity with his previous appearances on film.



but nobody's talking of making Bond black for the sake of being black....my point is at one point...if you can   changehis environment, his politics, his car, clothes, physical image...then why the fuck cant you make him  black?????   is it so integral to the story? cannot you have a conservative, god and country black man serving his country as a secrent agent? of course you can...

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:20:00 AM   
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To use the president as an example, Barack Obama was elected  for no other reason than because he was best for the job. If a black actor is best for Bond, why not?


how did anyone know he was best for the job when he hadn't even done the job?

did bush get the job cos he was 'best for the job?'

gosh..i'm contradicting myself now.....i'm off to bed...ive had too much to drink...



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RE: The Black Bond Question - 16/5/2009 12:22:58 AM   
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quote:

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To use the president as an example, Barack Obama was elected  for no other reason than because he was best for the job. If a black actor is best for Bond, why not?


how did anyone know he was best for the job when he hadn't even done the job?




Um, I was agreeing with you. But to phrase it better, "Barack Obama was elected for no other reason than because voters thought he could be best for the job. If a black actor is best for Bond, why not?"

What other reason is there cast Bond as black, other than the best actor for the job being black?


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see my above edit....

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