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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 8:07:38 AM   
Wilbert


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Yo, „Blowfeld"! I'mna put a fuckin cap in yor ass! Youknowimsayin? Shiiiit, nigga I'mna fuck you up! Fo shizzle!
 
Sounds great!


You should have edited it a little more than that! Someone says Black James Bond and this is what you think?

Unreal.

Chiewetel Ejiofor is the only actor around that could pull it off.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 8:48:22 AM   
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Yo, „Blowfeld"! I'mna put a fuckin cap in yor ass! Youknowimsayin? Shiiiit, nigga I'mna fuck you up! Fo shizzle!
 
Sounds great!


You should have edited it a little more than that! Someone says Black James Bond and this is what you think?

Unreal.

Chiewetel Ejiofor is the only actor around that could pull it off.


He'd be a great choice, had the cool but ruthless thing down pat in Serenity

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 8:50:19 AM   
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Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:02:04 AM   
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I don't see why not. I personally favour the notion that 'James Bond' is an alias, and each one takes over from the last. I get the idea that to work for MI6 as a secret agent you generally have to be about 'the job' 100% of the time, not having any family or really any concerns about how whatever you do and who you get involved with effects anything outside your immediate life.




As directorscut said, this concept is way, way off and it's an idea that Die Another Day director  Lee Tamahori believed as he wanted to try and get Sean Connery in the film as an older Bond.

It just doesn't work as an idea. ALL 007 agents are called James Bond?! Why? To identify them to enemy agents? Are all agents with the prefix 006 get a name change to Alec Trevaleyn? Are all 006s then carefully monitored seeing as the last one turned traitor?


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:14:02 AM   
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It just doesn't work as an idea. ALL 007 agents are called James Bond?! Why? To identify them to enemy agents?


Yes, and all of their parents must have died during mountaineering expeditions! It's in the job desciption!

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:29:42 AM   
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Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:37:04 AM   
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Kamara would be "unbelieveable" in the role.


Idris Elba all the way tho' as another 00 in spinoff movies...


Yes. Dj Dris was the first name that came to mind for me too, that would be my favourite thing ever.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 10:30:07 AM   
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The idea that some have had that James Bond is a code name is silly! Different actors yes. Different agent with same name, & same taste for martini's, & same one-liners, & same gadgets, & same bloody wife (in OHMSS & FYEO) NO NO NO!
Also since when should 007 represent our multicultural society? If you want to do that in an action movie simply create a new character from an ethnic background rather than the frankly insulting & cheap idea of just giving an existing & established white character an ethnic makeover!

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 11:25:22 AM   
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dalton broadened the 2 dimensional persona of bond in TLD.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 1:49:13 PM   
FGT


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“I’d put a little swing in it. A little hip-hop, you know.”


Hoiw cliched and, quite frankly emabbarrassing...I'm black so I'm into hip hop.....sigh

Bond is white...WTF has Barack Obama got to do with the casting of films anyway?
What's next....a white Mr Tibbs?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 2:44:45 PM   
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Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



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Hehe, krudler's annoyed

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 3:13:29 PM   
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Yo, „Blowfeld"! I'mna put a fuckin cap in yor ass! Youknowimsayin? Shiiiit, nigga I'mna fuck you up! Fo shizzle!
 
Sounds great!


Jesus fucking christ! Do you have any notion of what racism is? Glad no one is paying the mods.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 3:15:27 PM   
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Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character



Oh no he isn't.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 3:36:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

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ORIGINAL: krudler

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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



oooh,controversial




Hehe, krudler's annoyed


No but your posts amuse me

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 4:02:04 PM   
Lydia_H


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ORIGINAL: krudler

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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

quote:

ORIGINAL: krudler

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



oooh,controversial




Hehe, krudler's annoyed


No but your posts amuse me


Well at least now I know you didn't really mean it when you posted the three sleepy smilies  


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 5:30:11 PM   
krudler


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ORIGINAL: krudler

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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

quote:

ORIGINAL: krudler

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



oooh,controversial




Hehe, krudler's annoyed


No but your posts amuse me


Well at least now I know you didn't really mean it when you posted the three sleepy smilies  



Oh that I meant

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 6:05:17 PM   
Lydia_H


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Whoever would've known you could be so vicious, krudler?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 7:38:02 PM   
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 It wouldn't be a problem for me. If it was ever to happen, my vote would be for Ejiofer too, he's brilliant.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:22:07 PM   
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I don't see why not. I personally favour the notion that 'James Bond' is an alias, and each one takes over from the last.


Your notion is way off.  James Bond is a real [fictional] character, not an alias.  He has a past and background.  His is [supposed to be] the same person in all the movies. 

And if it was an alias it would be incredibly stupid.  No organisation is going to use the same alias over and over again.  That defeats the purpose of aliases!





Yes, thank you, I get that. What I was saying was that I would prefer if it were that way.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:25:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

Bond is a superficial, entirely predictable character that doesn't require great performances. Craig has, apparently, managed to totally reinvent the role/series simply by being blonde and a looking a bit common. I don't think anyone could argue that one day a black actor may be more capable than a white actor because it's not a role that requires much capability anymore. Bond is a decorative character.

Are the benefits of a black Bond even remotely attached to cinema, or is this an excuse to pat ourselves on the back for recognizing we live in a multicultural society? Ever since Obama was elected everyone seems to be going out of their way to approve of black people, like we're trying to avoid war with them or something



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Hardly. Just seems like they're trying to be.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 9:28:29 PM   
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 The bigger question perhaps is why would you recast Bond as black?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 10:14:48 PM   
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If this thread were to be re-titled .....

The White Mr Tibbs Question
The White Blade Question
The White Lando Question
The White <your choice of coloured character here> Question

Wonder how many responses the threads would have ... hmmmm


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/11/2008 11:51:35 PM   
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Asian James Bond? Latino James Bond? Slavic James Bond? Maybe we could have some kind of raffle where each race/country on the planet gets a chance of adopting James Bond as their own? We live in a multicultural society after all, why recognize only blacks and whites?

Could compromise and go for a half caste Bond at least, white mother and black father? Have Bond's parents been established at all? Could make an entire film out of Bond discovering one of his parents was black

What an amazing twist it'd be though if Bond had actually been Russian the whole time!

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 12:08:27 AM   
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 Bond has Swiss/Scottish parents, just for the record.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 12:54:39 AM   
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Bond has Swiss/Scottish parents, just for the record.





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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 12:59:51 AM   
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How about an Irish James Bond ? (sic)

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 1:02:03 AM   
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 Why is this funny?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 1:03:45 AM   
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 Maybe he's on drugs, everything is funny when you're on drugs.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 8:53:17 AM   
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Why is this funny?


I'm assuming it's the whole "Don't be silly Bond is BRITISH!" thought process but you are right, Bond's father is a Scot and his mumsy was Swiss-French, both killed in a climbing accident.

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oh, and modesty blaze is the female bond.




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RE: The Black Bond Question - 26/11/2008 8:59:26 AM   
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 If someone wants to make a secret agent film with any race/creed as the lead, then that's great and I'll look forward to it. But Bond is a white Brit. Leave the fuck alone.

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