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RE: The Black Bond Question - 23/5/2009 1:13:24 AM   
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A black person has a totally different charisma than a white person.


now, i'm pretty sure you don't mean what you say there so i'm not going to pick up on that. i know you're not actually saying that black people have a different charisma to whites. because charisma is something some whites have, some whites dont, some blacks have, some blacks dont, right?

i'm guessing what you mean is that they have a different world-view than whites that's what i'm thinking. please tell me i'm correct.


Oh sorry, I can see that I accidentally wrote the wrong word. It's supposed to be appearance, and nothing else.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/5/2009 3:40:31 PM   
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Personally I'd have no problem if somebody like Chiwetel Ejiofor stepped into the role. What's most important is that the actor is able to fit the background.  Bond's background being upper class, privately educated, etc. 

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 11:53:11 AM   
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In an interview with Total Film, Naomie Harris mentioned that Idris Elba has met with the Broccolis about donning the tux... but he's only 4 years younger than Craig, so once again this reignites the debate of could there be a black Bond?

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/could-idris-elba-be-the-next-james-bond

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:05:25 PM   
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This is going to sound controversial,but here goes.

James Bond,to me,is very much a white persons name.
I cant for the life of me know anyone called James who wasn't white,and I've lived/been in many diverse areas.

On the subject on having a Black person or Asian person playing James Bond,to be honest,I'm not bothered.Its a free world.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:12:22 PM   
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I cant for the life of me know anyone called James who wasn't white,and I've lived/been in many diverse areas.


James Brown?

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EDIT - James Brown would, I think, have made an amazing Bond.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:12:40 PM   
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James Brown?

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:14:07 PM   
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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:14:08 PM   
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I cant for the life of me know anyone called James who wasn't white,and I've lived/been in many diverse areas.


James Brown?

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Well that blows that out of the water.

Would the Bond fans/Fanboys like it ?
Probably not,and in that sense I hope they go ahead for this change.Mwhahaha

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:16:18 PM   
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I couldn't give a shit either way, mainly cos I'm not really a Bond fan, and this has almost certainly been mentioned in this thread, but I can't be assed to search for it (for the aforementioned reason), but isn't Colin Salmon still quite high on the fave list?

Shame he's such a shit actor.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:19:34 PM   
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I couldn't give a shit either way, mainly cos I'm not really a Bond fan, and this has almost certainly been mentioned in this thread, but I can't be assed to search for it (for the aforementioned reason), but isn't Colin Salmon still quite high on the fave list?

Shame he's such a shit actor.


Yeah,I've seen him appear in a few things.He hasn't really jumped-out as a dominant lead in my opinion,but you never know some actors might just rise to the occasion.
I've got a silly bet on Idris Elba playing the main role in R.Scotts next Blade Runner film.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:33:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES
James Bond,to me,is very much a white persons name.
I cant for the life of me know anyone called James who wasn't white,and I've lived/been in many diverse areas.


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:34:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES
James Bond,to me,is very much a white persons name.
I cant for the life of me know anyone called James who wasn't white,and I've lived/been in many diverse areas.


LL Cool J
James Wan
Jimmy Cliff



Yes,yes we get the point.
I made a idiot of myself..............again

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:41:36 PM   
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I've got a silly bet on Idris Elba playing the main role in R.Scotts next Blade Runner film.


I've read several hints that attempts are being made to tie the sequel/prequel/set-in-the-same-universe-but-not-related BR follow-up into Prometheus (and, by default, the Alien and AVP series), which I think is a HUGE mistake.

But then I also have a sneaking suspicion, what with both Tony Scott's unexpected death and the unexpected enormous success of Prometheus, that BR2 is going to be pushed aside for a Prometheus follow up or two and, possibly, Ridders taking on the reigns for the Top Gun sequel.

On the other hand, Blade Runner was made under the cloud of the other Scott brother's death, so maybe we WILL see not only a BR follow-up, but also a damn good one at that (not that I'm keeping my expectations high).

Sorry - massively off topic there.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:45:40 PM   
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Idris Elba as Bond would send Cool Breeze and Private Hudson into a shit-fit of epic proportions.

Therefore, I'm all for it.


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:46:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: great_badir

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES
I've got a silly bet on Idris Elba playing the main role in R.Scotts next Blade Runner film.


I've read several hints that attempts are being made to tie the sequel/prequel/set-in-the-same-universe-but-not-related BR follow-up into Prometheus (and, by default, the Alien and AVP series), which I think is a HUGE mistake.

But then I also have a sneaking suspicion, what with both Tony Scott's unexpected death and the unexpected enormous success of Prometheus, that BR2 is going to be pushed aside for a Prometheus follow up or two and, possibly, Ridders taking on the reigns for the Top Gun sequel.

On the other hand, Blade Runner was made under the cloud of the other Scott brother's death, so maybe we WILL see not only a BR follow-up, but also a damn good one at that (not that I'm keeping my expectations high).

Sorry - massively off topic there.


I think the Blade Runner-Prometheus tie-in was just a piece of fun.And I cant see it being anything more than that.

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Idris Elba as Bond would send Cool Breeze and Private Hudson into a shit-fit of epic proportions.

Therefore, I'm all for it.



For that reason I'm all in favour for it.


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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:52:05 PM   
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I think the Blade Runner-Prometheus tie-in was just a piece of fun.And I cant see it being anything more than that.


Not so long ago I would have agreed. Unfortunately I've heard from a fairly reputable source that attempts ARE being made. By whom I (and my source) do not know, but it is someone(s) involved in the creative process.

But I hope it either gets laughed off by Scott and/or the producers, or comes nowhere near working in the first place.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 12:57:14 PM   
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I think the Blade Runner-Prometheus tie-in was just a piece of fun.And I cant see it being anything more than that.


Not so long ago I would have agreed. Unfortunately I've heard from a fairly reputable source that attempts ARE being made. By whom I (and my source) do not know, but it is someone(s) involved in the creative process.

But I hope it either gets laughed off by Scott and/or the producers, or comes nowhere near working in the first place.


Unfortunately both Alien/Prometheus and Blade Runner were set in two very similar worlds,so its only understandable that idea exists.
But I hope they dont go down that route.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 1:00:00 PM   
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Unfortunately both Alien/Prometheus and Blade Runner were set in two very similar worlds,so its only understandable that idea exists.


Too true. Plus there's an obvious sub-plot involving the Tyrell and Weyland-Yutani corporations.

Actually, on paper it sounds like it has legs and the potential to be quite good. But in practice I don't think it would work at all.

Anyway, this is mega off Bond now - sorry everyone.

Ummm..........Ridley Scott to helm a future Bond film?

Oh wait - that's still off topic.......

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 1:15:37 PM   
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Wonder if Shaft will ever be played by a white person.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 1:16:09 PM   
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The only thing I'd have a problem with would be the continuity, like I don't it wouldn't work for me if they tried to pretend that Elba was the same Bond that Craig played, it would require a reboot in my opinion and I think it's too soon after the last one.

I don't think this will happen anyway, at four years younger than Craig who's already signed on for three(or is it two?) more movies he'll be too old by the time Craig's time is up.

Anyway, we all know that Fassbender will be the next Bond whether people like it or not. Elba would make a great villain though.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 1:23:15 PM   
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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 2:01:17 PM   
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Wonder if Shaft will ever be played by a white person.



No, because there has never been a white person called John

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 2:08:03 PM   
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Wonder if Shaft will ever be played by a white person.



No, because there has never been a white person called John


John Lennon
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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 2:27:22 PM   
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Its a shame because Elba was no doubt nominated/considered for being a terrific british actor rather than it being a "gimmick".

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 5:48:18 PM   
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Wonder if Shaft will ever be played by a white person.



No, because there has never been a white person called John


John Lennon
John F.Kennedy
John Cleese


It's a shame he's past on because I reckon John Paul II would have been perfect the role.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 5:59:22 PM   
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Just been reading this whole thread for the past 2 hours, please get dhowdy back in to debate this!! If he hasnt fallen off the face of the earth!!

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 6:20:41 PM   
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Lets get this back onto subject.

Will James Bond play a Black person.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 6:45:35 PM   
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Its a shame because Elba was no doubt nominated/considered for being a terrific british actor rather than it being a "gimmick".


no as good an actor he is,changing bond to a black man is a pure gimmick move from e the get go. the studio's are just looking for someone to fill it.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 6:58:04 PM   
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Still, better than when they wanted Robbie Williams.

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RE: The Black Bond Question - 25/10/2012 7:10:24 PM   
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Still, better than when they wanted Robbie Williams.

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