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RE: Bond 23 - 1/10/2012 7:48:54 PM   
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This feels like it is a relative of Surrender. Which is one of the best Bond songs ever written.

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RE: Bond 23 - 1/10/2012 7:54:51 PM   
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Quite frankly I won't be happy until The Grumbleweeds are brought in to a do a Bond theme.



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RE: Bond 23 - 1/10/2012 8:04:49 PM   
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It's only 1:29 but I really liked it. I thought it was quite cool how they seem to incorporate the Bond theme music in it as well.

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RE: Bond 23 - 1/10/2012 11:22:27 PM   
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It's gone, though I suppose the official release will be soon enough

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RE: Bond 23 - 2/10/2012 6:09:13 AM   
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RE: Bond 23 - 2/10/2012 1:08:24 PM   
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Not bad. Quite old school Bond, although there is a part of me that was hoping for something a little 'cooler'. I'm not a fan but there's no denying she has a cracking set of pipes.

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RE: Bond 23 - 2/10/2012 2:08:03 PM   
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Not bad. Quite old school Bond, although there is a part of me that was hoping for something a little 'cooler'. I'm not a fan but there's no denying she has a cracking set of pipes.


She can sing, I'll give her that, it's just a shame she wastes that talent on boring, bland, interchangeable Radio 1 fodder.

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RE: Bond 23 - 2/10/2012 11:26:03 PM   
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quote:

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Not bad. Quite old school Bond, although there is a part of me that was hoping for something a little 'cooler'. I'm not a fan but there's no denying she has a cracking set of pipes.


She can sing, I'll give her that, it's just a shame she wastes that talent on boring, bland, interchangeable Radio 1 fodder.



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That you found a girl and you're married now.
I heard that your dreams came true.
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RE: Bond 23 - 2/10/2012 11:51:04 PM   
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Hmm .... too short to get a proper impression. The last one was pretty terrible, but I really liked You Know My Name.

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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 11:06:11 AM   
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Another link HERE. Working as of now



As of now it's not

Try here: La la laaaa

I'm not a fan of Adele, her voice is very good but I've never gone out of my way to buy her music. But this track sounds awesome I have to say. Just right for the material I feel. The last thing theme was diabolical, sounded like two hungover people abusing instruments after a night long drink binge. The film was great though.

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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 11:24:45 AM   
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I think it sounds fucking dull. I'm hating it so far. I don't mind Adele, she can do the whole big voice warbling well enough, although it's not really my kinda music. Although it's only a brief snippet, I don't feel it building up much to any big crescendo like I expect these type of Bond themes to. I have to say, I don't think these old fashioned themes work with the new films. I loved You Know My Name and Another Way To Die. I think this just sounds kinda dull and I can feel the titles of Skyfall now being a chore to sit through, whereas for Casino Royale and QoS I enjoy watching em. Unless the title sequence is really special or the music picks up a notch into something more exciting, I'd imagine this will be one of the Bond films that has the titles on fast forward during a rewatch on Blu Ray, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Die ANother Day, Moonraker or other films with equally dull and shite title songs.

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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 12:27:01 PM   
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I'd imagine this will be one of the Bond films that has the titles on fast forward during a rewatch on Blu Ray, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Die ANother Day, Moonraker or other films with equally dull and shite title songs.


I do like the funky disco version of Moonraker over the end credits though.

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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 1:52:55 PM   
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I think it sounds fucking dull. I'm hating it so far. I don't mind Adele, she can do the whole big voice warbling well enough, although it's not really my kinda music. Although it's only a brief snippet, I don't feel it building up much to any big crescendo like I expect these type of Bond themes to. I have to say, I don't think these old fashioned themes work with the new films. I loved You Know My Name and Another Way To Die. I think this just sounds kinda dull and I can feel the titles of Skyfall now being a chore to sit through, whereas for Casino Royale and QoS I enjoy watching em. Unless the title sequence is really special or the music picks up a notch into something more exciting, I'd imagine this will be one of the Bond films that has the titles on fast forward during a rewatch on Blu Ray, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Die ANother Day, Moonraker or other films with equally dull and shite title songs.


Not a happy shopper then.

Jobloffski, what craaazy theories do you have about the meaning of the film title? Theories on the plot and characters? What do you make of the trailers?


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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 2:15:54 PM   
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quote:

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I think it sounds fucking dull. I'm hating it so far. I don't mind Adele, she can do the whole big voice warbling well enough, although it's not really my kinda music. Although it's only a brief snippet, I don't feel it building up much to any big crescendo like I expect these type of Bond themes to. I have to say, I don't think these old fashioned themes work with the new films. I loved You Know My Name and Another Way To Die. I think this just sounds kinda dull and I can feel the titles of Skyfall now being a chore to sit through, whereas for Casino Royale and QoS I enjoy watching em. Unless the title sequence is really special or the music picks up a notch into something more exciting, I'd imagine this will be one of the Bond films that has the titles on fast forward during a rewatch on Blu Ray, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Die ANother Day, Moonraker or other films with equally dull and shite title songs.


Not a happy shopper then.

Jobloffski, what craaazy theories do you have about the meaning of the film title? Theories on the plot and characters? What do you make of the trailers?



Definately not. Maybe it'll improve when added to the titles and if it gets a bit more 'big'.

Possible Spoilers....

Didnt one of the earlier trailers suggest that 'Skyfall' (whatever it is) has direct ties to Bond's background and family history? Or it may have been from an early plot synopsis? I seem to recall the manor house that's featured in the trailers being called Skyfall Manor or Skyfall House or something, anyone else heard that? And that there was possibly a graveyard plot there with some of Bond's family? I'm sure I read something along those lines! Anyone help me out? Also, in one of the trailers, in what looks like a name association test, someone say's 'Skyfall', to which Bond replies 'Done'. Could it maybe relate to the codename of a mission that connects to his family? Perhaps Silva's family has connections back to Bond's, maybe that's why he seemingly attacks Bond there, burning it down. I get the impression there is something more personal going on between Silva and Bond, but maybe something from before their time? Fuck knows. Long day. Rambling. Still, if anyone can confirm if there were rumours about Skyfall Manor/House and Bonds family grave plot, it would be nice to know I'm not going mad.


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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 3:33:47 PM   
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i read the mail on sunday SF special and it has a few spoilers including a photo of finney and craig.

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finney plays kincade, caretaker of skyfall manor.


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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 9:14:08 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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I think it sounds fucking dull. I'm hating it so far. I don't mind Adele, she can do the whole big voice warbling well enough, although it's not really my kinda music. Although it's only a brief snippet, I don't feel it building up much to any big crescendo like I expect these type of Bond themes to. I have to say, I don't think these old fashioned themes work with the new films. I loved You Know My Name and Another Way To Die. I think this just sounds kinda dull and I can feel the titles of Skyfall now being a chore to sit through, whereas for Casino Royale and QoS I enjoy watching em. Unless the title sequence is really special or the music picks up a notch into something more exciting, I'd imagine this will be one of the Bond films that has the titles on fast forward during a rewatch on Blu Ray, like Tomorrow Never Dies, Die ANother Day, Moonraker or other films with equally dull and shite title songs.


Not a happy shopper then.

Jobloffski, what craaazy theories do you have about the meaning of the film title? Theories on the plot and characters? What do you make of the trailers?




Total guess work of course...

Bond's 'death' is not faked, it's a fuck up, pure and simple. M isn't ordering Bond shot, but the death of the man he is fighting and the shot only clips Bond, but being clipped a by bullet still bringa da pain.

Other 00 agents are wiped out too, nobody knows what the jeez is going on, Bond is believed to be truly dead, and his existence as a 'ghost' (in hiding, believing he is being 'burned' by MI6) gives him an outsiders view of the situation, atrocities happening, authorities in panic, and news of OOs being taken out in apparently organised fashion brings him back into the world. As far as HMSS is concerned, it's a mysterious and unexplainable series of catastrophes causing such panic among the public and those supposedly in the know, it's as if the sky is falling...from the outside Bond can see the picture more clearly, it's not the sky falling, it's tactical, clinical,the GROUND beneath the feet of the establishment is falling, being taken out. Only someone with the ruthlessness to do what has to be done can hope to be a blunt enough instrument to hurt those responsible

A mistake in M's past, accidently/inadvertently/avoidably throwing Silva to the wolves (Silva,or the man who came to become known as Silva, perhaps a grim joke on his part due to other Bond Villains names, White, Green, Gold, so he gives Q(uantum) Branch a name that is the kind of thing they're used to).

His revenge is a long time coming, and when he makes his move his opponent turns out to be Bond, raw from the belief that M ordered him shot, not believing her fully that it was an accident, doing his thing for Queen and country, up against someone with his training, his ruthlessness, his devil may care attitude who (Joker Like) knows the best way to screw with the establishment is to cause mayhem, mayhem that seems to be part of a campaign, but without offering any clue as to why.

Such a situation invokes the 'Skyfall' protocol, which is an admission of absolute failure by the intelligence services re planning and counter terrorism strategy and as part of he Skyfall protocol the licence to kill comes into its own. Women, kids, men, innocent or not, no life is held valuable enough to prevent the attempt to sort the situation out, by any means necessary, because no life is valuable enough to be considered worth the price of the collapse of a sovereign state.

The skyfall protocol may be invoked twice, to take out those responsible for the chain of events, the first time those taken out are bad guys, but planted clues have led to them appearing responsible, when they are not. The second time, Bond's personal invoking of skyfall, to be the one man army who will kill his way to the truth.

The closer he gets to the truth, the more his mind is twisted by Silva so that he almost wants M dead as much as Silva. M is the one responsible for the chain of events and her death will stop the chaos, whoever kills her, Silva gets the word out to that effect.

To keep M safe, she is transported by trusted personnel, only just trusted anyway, to a bolthole, a mansion in a remote location that has jokingly been referred to for years as Skyfall Manor, due to the circumstances under which someone would be taken there. M is betrayed, and a kill team is sent to 'Skyfall Manor' to take out M and anyone else they find there.

Bond gets there first, a terrified M is convinced she is about to be killed by him, everyone else has turned against her, why wouldn't he? But the look in his eyes tells her different, he's her protector, not her assassin, losing composure she thanks him and asks him what the hell is going on...

Bond: It's a bit...complicated. But right now, what you need to know is very simple. Some men are coming here to kill us. We're going to kill them first.

Here endeth the ramblings!


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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 10:03:29 PM   
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Totally didn't pick up on the name Silva and how it could fit into Quantum. While the producers have said this is a stand alone, I do hope they at least tip the hat to the organisation.

As for Silva - I suspect he was a 00 agent, who feels betrayed by M for something in the past - he calls her mummy for example.

Still wonder about the status of Dench by the end of the film. It feels like there are clouds around her.

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RE: Bond 23 - 3/10/2012 10:44:01 PM   
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Ooh, I liked that track, very Bond

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 3:18:04 PM   
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'bond on set' for SF out now

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bond-On-Set-Filming-Skyfall/dp/1405356782/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349428902&sr=8-1-

lots of pics and script extracts.


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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 6:58:09 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Another link HERE. Working as of now



As of now it's not

Try here: La la laaaa

I'm not a fan of Adele, her voice is very good but I've never gone out of my way to buy her music. But this track sounds awesome I have to say. Just right for the material I feel. The last thing theme was diabolical, sounded like two hungover people abusing instruments after a night long drink binge. The film was great though.


Yup, finally managed to find a snippet and I like it. Seems like a return to the classic tunes and I cant see how Adele can refrain from ending with some belting notes. I really hope so, im looking forward to something edging closer to Goldeneye
Very happy with it so far (not that I really had anything against the previous 2)

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 10:16:11 PM   
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http://bllossom03.tumblr.com/post/32889208873/elementofcrime-adele-skyfall-full-song

Full track is here. Very good it is too.

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 10:28:44 PM   
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God that song is terrible.Just a lot of warbling.Makes Another Way to die sound good.

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 10:48:44 PM   
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Painfully average to be honest. Nothing against the vocals but the rest seems very flat, as if it's stuck on the intro. Needs way more brass etc. Should have got David Arnold to do it properly.

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 10:59:38 PM   
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God that song is terrible.Just a lot of warbling.Makes Another Way to die sound good.


No it doesn't.

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 11:05:10 PM   
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Hmmm, not blown away but it think it will be a grower. I think the quality of that recording/rip/whatever isn't the greatest but there'll be better ones out soon enough. Will have another few listens then.

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RE: Bond 23 - 4/10/2012 11:09:48 PM   
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Yeah I wonder how much difference proper theatre sound quality will make

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God that song is terrible.Just a lot of warbling.Makes Another Way to die sound good.


No it doesn't.


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RE: Bond 23 - 5/10/2012 12:17:53 AM   
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"Lyric Video" thingy now up. Already sounding a lot better thanks to increase in quality.

http://home.adele.tv/


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RE: Bond 23 - 5/10/2012 6:32:57 AM   
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Just heard on the drive home and while I didnt get the full on belter notes at then end that I wanted, I enjoyed it. Very classy, and hopefully we can return to the silhouettes of naked women in the opening credits.

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RE: Bond 23 - 5/10/2012 7:16:15 AM   
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Yeah, it's growing on me a lot more since hearing it in full, and I do like the strings, very dramatic. Not the kind of song I'd listen to normally but in the context of Bond it's pretty perfect.

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RE: Bond 23 - 5/10/2012 10:24:07 AM   
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happy 007 day-


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http://commanderbond.net/15685/bon-50th-anniversary-video-blog.html


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