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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 1/7/2009 1:19:59 PM   
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The QoS storyline wasn't that strong and yes I know it was a short book but still, they should have strengthened the story line more.  


the fleming short story ain't got much to offer as bond film so was not used. QoS movie storyline kinda borrows from FYEO and LTK.
they definitely need strong 'caper', as richard maiubaum used to say, and stronger villain for bond 23.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 9/7/2009 9:42:10 AM   
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PROPERTY        RISICO
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Thinking about it, Property Of A Lady would have been a more fitting title for the last film. It even would have tied in with the plot (Vesper's necklace).

Anyway after Bond 23 they should have another creative shake-up, bid goodbye to Purvis & Wade and Judi Dench as well.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 9/7/2009 12:26:04 PM   
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PROPERTY        RISICO
  OF                             
A 7LADY                   


Thinking about it, Property Of A Lady would have been a more fitting title for the last film. It even would have tied in with the plot (Vesper's necklace).

Anyway after Bond 23 they should have another creative shake-up, bid goodbye to Purvis & Wade and Judi Dench as well.


'little britain' kinda put paid to that title being used.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 9/7/2009 4:29:26 PM   
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It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.



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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 10/7/2009 11:16:53 AM   
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It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.





thats the plot of 'bourne 2'!

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 10/7/2009 11:53:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1


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ORIGINAL: Marwood

It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.





thats the plot of 'bourne 2'!


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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 10/7/2009 4:12:57 PM   
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It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.




It's not a bad idea and opens the door for possible awesome villains. I'm a fan of getting the likes of Shah Rukh Khan or someone equally big and 'exotic' as a villain as recently the villains have the brains but not the braun to match Bond and I'd like the head of Quantum to have both.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 11/7/2009 1:19:02 PM   
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think the recent bond villains have been evil but lack the stature, the egomania and the world view that fleming instilled in goldfinger, drax, dr no. mr white would b a more interesting villian if we knew what he actually wanted aside from money and power.

quantum could try to kill bond during the nxt movie but he should b involved in a seperate mission while trying to avoid multiple attacks on his life.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 11/7/2009 5:47:05 PM   
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think the recent bond villains have been evil but lack the stature, the egomania and the world view that fleming instilled in goldfinger, drax, dr no. mr white would b a more interesting villian if we knew what he actually wanted aside from money and power.

quantum could try to kill bond during the nxt movie but he should b involved in a seperate mission while trying to avoid multiple attacks on his life.


That's a nice idea but the whole megalomaniac villain who wants to destroy or take over the world is probably a bit too far fetched by todays standards. I'm just thinking of the villains in the new GI Joe movie.

I love the idea of Quantum sending someone after Bond to terminate him in revenge, maybe targeting all 00 agents out in the field as a warning.


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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 13/7/2009 12:36:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: spark1

think the recent bond villains have been evil but lack the stature, the egomania and the world view that fleming instilled in goldfinger, drax, dr no. mr white would b a more interesting villian if we knew what he actually wanted aside from money and power.

quantum could try to kill bond during the nxt movie but he should b involved in a seperate mission while trying to avoid multiple attacks on his life.


That's a nice idea but the whole megalomaniac villain who wants to destroy or take over the world is probably a bit too far fetched by todays standards. I'm just thinking of the villains in the new GI Joe movie.

I love the idea of Quantum sending someone after Bond to terminate him in revenge, maybe targeting all 00 agents out in the field as a warning.



we're not talking 'dr evil' here-the fleming bond villains are more subtle than that and not all want to take over the world.
la chiffre has a great speech in the 'casino royale' novel, cut from the film, which expands on his character as does novels with goldfinger and other villains.
we need that kind of detail as well as more verbal jousting from them with bond before inevitable violent confrontation.

they cut out a scene with bond and white from end of QoS-hope it will b back in the UE blu ray dvd and give us lead on how quantum will deal with bond in future movies.


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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 15/7/2009 1:06:09 PM   
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bond's next on screen leading lady should b a civilian not another fellow agent, like kara in TLD or natalya in GE.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 16/7/2009 4:56:35 PM   
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It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.





Clive Owen!!! would be perfect for this, sort of ironic seeing as everyone wanted him to BE bond, craid vs owen, that would be UNREAL

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 17/7/2009 12:46:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marwood

It would be a nice change for the villain to be more of a physical match for Bond rather than a schemer with tough henchmen. I mean no offense to Le Chifre or Greene but you know they wouldn't stand a chance against Bond in an actual fight (even though Greene was wielding an axe).

Hell, I'd like to see Bond to go up against essentially an evil version of himself again like with 006 in Goldeneye or at least have the more physically adept opponent be the main thorn in his side throughout the film and the traditional evil schemer role be background. How about Quantum (the organisation) target Bond and the film revolves more on him being on the run from a super assassin? Lay massive attacks on MI6 to stop him getting as much help and you have a nice lone man on the run adventure for him. Spectre sicced Red Grant on him in From Russia With Love (even though he was background while the decoder plot played out). If I were involved in Quantum I'd certainly want MI6 and their super agent out the way quick smart considering the trouble he's caused the organisation.





Clive Owen!!! would be perfect for this, sort of ironic seeing as everyone wanted him to BE bond, craid vs owen, that would be UNREAL


we already gone thru that with owen in 'the bourne identity'.

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RE: Bond 23 - 20/7/2009 8:02:43 PM   
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Well it can't be any worse than QOS,the only Bond film I haven't seen fit to buy yet.


Yet you were happy to spend money on Moonraker, A View to A Kill and Diamonds Are Forever? You're seriously suggesting that QOS was worse than them?

Anyway, apparently Purvis and Wade will be joined by the fella (already forgotten his name - sorry) who wrote The Queen and Frost/Nixon on scripting duties. Good?

Btw - love the Hugh Laurie as Q suggestion



Of course QoS was worse than them! It was sadly the worst ever Bond movie because it wasn't really a Bond movie at all.

This is the problem that Bond faces. Every so often we do get a grittier Bond movie then it reverts back to the usual (and let's face it successful) formula. If it doesn't Bond may well die because he then just becomes another action star. The reason Bond was so successful in the first place is that it took us out of our little world and into an escapist realm of fantasy where the British Empire still saved the day thanks to the derring do of Commander James Bond.

Bond is not Bourne and thank feck for that.

Bond has to revert back to what makes a Bond movie. After all Bond is not a commentary on real life, he is like Indiana Jones, Tarzan, Robin Hood - an entertainment figure, wish fulfillment.

So I say if Bond 23 is not more fun then sack Daniel Craig and bring someone in with the charm and humour to ensure the success of Bond.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 21/7/2009 12:27:58 PM   
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QoS is not my idea of a bond film to watch on a rainy bank holiday or after the queen's speech on xmas but it not bad as a more gritty take on bond. way better than MR or TMWTGG which are the weakest in the series.

think they should keep bond and m railing against a cynical, expedient UK/US governments who see no threat from quantum, may even want to make more deals with them.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 21/7/2009 1:12:24 PM   
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I feel the next Bond will be lighter in tone, thankfully, but there's no reason why the plot can't be intricate at the same time. Have another 00 agent turn mole and leave us guessing who it is, hell it could even be M.
I still don't understand the logic behind casting Judi Dench in the Craig Bonds if they are prequels.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 21/7/2009 5:32:58 PM   
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QoS is not my idea of a bond film to watch on a rainy bank holiday or after the queen's speech on xmas but it not bad as a more gritty take on bond. way better than MR or TMWTGG which are the weakest in the series.

think they should keep bond and m railing against a cynical, expedient UK/US governments who see no threat from quantum, may even want to make more deals with them.


I can see why people don't like Moonraker, but why do people continually underate The Man with the Golden Gun?

I actually think despite it's poor box office it is one of the very best! It has a story that feels like it came out of a novel (it is one I haven;t read but I get the impression it is very different) and has a superb villain, a topical plot (the Energy Crisis) plus we have truly fantastic locations...

I have been to Phang Na - the island where the Scaramanga's Lair was filmed!

Come on the premise is fab! 007 versus the world's greatest assassin! In the Far East! With 2 knock out Swedish bombshells...

plus the wee guy from Fantasy Island!

Only drawback is the rather rubbish song from Lulu - easily the worst Bond theme song before the Pierce Brosnan/Daniel Craig years (DAD? QoS?)

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 22/7/2009 10:14:45 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

QoS is not my idea of a bond film to watch on a rainy bank holiday or after the queen's speech on xmas but it not bad as a more gritty take on bond. way better than MR or TMWTGG which are the weakest in the series.

think they should keep bond and m railing against a cynical, expedient UK/US governments who see no threat from quantum, may even want to make more deals with them.


I can see why people don't like Moonraker, but why do people continually underate The Man with the Golden Gun?

I actually think despite it's poor box office it is one of the very best! It has a story that feels like it came out of a novel (it is one I haven;t read but I get the impression it is very different) and has a superb villain, a topical plot (the Energy Crisis) plus we have truly fantastic locations...

I have been to Phang Na - the island where the Scaramanga's Lair was filmed!

Come on the premise is fab! 007 versus the world's greatest assassin! In the Far East! With 2 knock out Swedish bombshells...

plus the wee guy from Fantasy Island!

Only drawback is the rather rubbish song from Lulu - easily the worst Bond theme song before the Pierce Brosnan/Daniel Craig years (DAD? QoS?)


trouble is there not enough set piece action scenes and a great villain is wasted in a dull shoot out at the end.

judi is back as m cos she great in the role and has great chemistry with craig.
continuity in the bond films went out the window long time ago.

hey, how about a woman to direct bond sometime?

http://debrief.commanderbond.net/index.php?showtopic=45984

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 22/7/2009 12:25:56 PM   
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The new Bond films aren't prequels as such, Casino Royale was a reboot like Batman Begins - i.e. starting a new chronology. QOS was its Dark Knight (the sequel to the reboot)....only bad.

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RE: Bond 23 - 22/7/2009 6:18:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Private Hudson

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ORIGINAL: Marwood

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ORIGINAL: Dr Lenera

Well it can't be any worse than QOS,the only Bond film I haven't seen fit to buy yet.


Yet you were happy to spend money on Moonraker, A View to A Kill and Diamonds Are Forever? You're seriously suggesting that QOS was worse than them?

Anyway, apparently Purvis and Wade will be joined by the fella (already forgotten his name - sorry) who wrote The Queen and Frost/Nixon on scripting duties. Good?

Btw - love the Hugh Laurie as Q suggestion



Of course QoS was worse than them! It was sadly the worst ever Bond movie because it wasn't really a Bond movie at all.

This is the problem that Bond faces. Every so often we do get a grittier Bond movie then it reverts back to the usual (and let's face it successful) formula. If it doesn't Bond may well die because he then just becomes another action star. The reason Bond was so successful in the first place is that it took us out of our little world and into an escapist realm of fantasy where the British Empire still saved the day thanks to the derring do of Commander James Bond.

Bond is not Bourne and thank feck for that.

Bond has to revert back to what makes a Bond movie. After all Bond is not a commentary on real life, he is like Indiana Jones, Tarzan, Robin Hood - an entertainment figure, wish fulfillment.

So I say if Bond 23 is not more fun then sack Daniel Craig and bring someone in with the charm and humour to ensure the success of Bond.


How bout sacking him now? Before it gets even worse!

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RE: Bond 23 - 22/7/2009 9:38:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darth silas

quote:

ORIGINAL: Private Hudson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marwood

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dr Lenera

Well it can't be any worse than QOS,the only Bond film I haven't seen fit to buy yet.


Yet you were happy to spend money on Moonraker, A View to A Kill and Diamonds Are Forever? You're seriously suggesting that QOS was worse than them?

Anyway, apparently Purvis and Wade will be joined by the fella (already forgotten his name - sorry) who wrote The Queen and Frost/Nixon on scripting duties. Good?

Btw - love the Hugh Laurie as Q suggestion



Of course QoS was worse than them! It was sadly the worst ever Bond movie because it wasn't really a Bond movie at all.

This is the problem that Bond faces. Every so often we do get a grittier Bond movie then it reverts back to the usual (and let's face it successful) formula. If it doesn't Bond may well die because he then just becomes another action star. The reason Bond was so successful in the first place is that it took us out of our little world and into an escapist realm of fantasy where the British Empire still saved the day thanks to the derring do of Commander James Bond.

Bond is not Bourne and thank feck for that.

Bond has to revert back to what makes a Bond movie. After all Bond is not a commentary on real life, he is like Indiana Jones, Tarzan, Robin Hood - an entertainment figure, wish fulfillment.

So I say if Bond 23 is not more fun then sack Daniel Craig and bring someone in with the charm and humour to ensure the success of Bond.


How bout sacking him now? Before it gets even worse!


Oh come on Silas, you can't blame Craig for everything. Do you think he wrote the script? Edited the action into barely cohesive clips? Sang the theme song?

Besides, Craig has charm and humour...he just doesn't get the chance to show it much in these new films. Bear in mind his performance is directed so if you don't like how he plays it then consider that it's not just his decision. Maybe he would like to throw a few more quips in.

Craig: How about I make a darkly suggestive joke?
Campbell: How about you stand where I told you and grimace? Pierce never talked back to me.
Craig: Ryan Reynolds doesn't stand a chance...
Campbell: What?
Craig: Nothing.

Craig: I could say something about...
Forster: HiDanielit'sgreattoseeyouIcan'tbelieveit'salreadythesecondweekofshootingandwe'restilldoingboringtalkystuffI'msickoftalkystuffIwanttodosomecarchaseswhereyou'realllike"brrrrm"andthebadguysarelike"bangbang"andthecameraislikerightthereinthecarImeanlikereallyinyourfacebutonlyforasecondonscreenbecausethere'sanothercarcomingandweneedlongshotsthrowninforamiliseconddidyouPaulGreengrasssometimesuseshandhelds?HowcoolisthatfuckJasonBournewe'llmakeourownshakycamscenesandthey'llbetwiceasshakyasBourne
Craig: Marc. You're a nice guy and Monsters Ball was a great piece work with or without Halle Berry getting naked but please; lay off the speed.

Craig: Shouldn't Olga and I be doing the horizontal monster mash by now?
Barbara Brocolli: No. Don't you even look at her suggestively. She's a strong, independent woman and you respect her too much to try your luck. You're a moden man-Bond.
Craig: What about Arterton?
Barbara Brocolli: Well obviously Bond has to get laid at some point in the film, we're not trying to reinvent the wheel...just reshape it a bit.
Craig: By having me ignore the stunning model and seduce the girl half my age? Yes, how realistic and pc. Well done Babs.
Barbara Brocolli: Daddy would be proud of me....

Sorry, drifted off there for a second.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 23/7/2009 11:45:41 AM   
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if the current rookie bond is a slightly charmless thug of a man wrapped in a tux or suit then thats kinda what fleming intended in the books.

'if i want sarcasm, mr tanner, i'll go talk to my children.'

'can u translate that into english for those of us who don't speak spy?'

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 6/8/2009 11:26:07 AM   
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hear joe wright is putting his hat in the ring to direct bond 23.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 1/10/2009 11:01:25 AM   
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I can now reveal the title of the 23rd James Bond film, if it was made in a world in which I had even the slightest influence on anything.

I’m calling it Blood And Thunder, which is a fricking magnificent title if you ask me, and you have because you entered into a contract to do so by reading this post. More fool you. But seriously, imagine Muse belting that out at a bajillion decibels. Astonishing.

Blood And Thunder is the title of a chapter from “You Only Live Twice”, and I think it’s appropriate to keep to something Fleming created, even if it’s only the title, because it’s respectful to do so. Also it sounds like all bloody hell might break loose which can only result in ten sacks of awesome.


Furthermore, Vincent Cassel for the villain.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 1/10/2009 1:42:31 PM   
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QoS isn't a bank holiday Bond film; it's a late Friday night beer-and-pizza one. Nothing wrong in that.

There tends to be a trend that Bond films run a spectrum that goes 'serious and gritty' with lighter elements introduced over each subsequent film so you end up with a big, OTT, glossy one. Then back to serious and gritty again.

Next time I think we'll see something closer to Goldeneye than From Russia With Love.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 2/10/2009 6:29:26 AM   
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QOS and Casino Royale don't even compare to Goldeneye. I also would like to see Bond have a physically matched villain as well and more of a story rather than just driving around like hell on wheels and doing stunts every five seconds. Please bring some humor (innuendo) back into the Bond movies, they're not the same without it.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 2/10/2009 12:59:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

I also would like to see Bond have a physically matched villain as well


Yeah, another Robert Shaw wouldn't go amiss

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 7/10/2009 10:36:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JoeyPottr

QOS and Casino Royale don't even compare to Goldeneye. I also would like to see Bond have a physically matched villain as well and more of a story rather than just driving around like hell on wheels and doing stunts every five seconds. Please bring some humor (innuendo) back into the Bond movies, they're not the same without it.


rather some witty dialogue than moore style smut, return to the connery style of one line.

'colonel bouviour, i don't think you should have open that car door by yourself'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCj539L-Ltc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hct75nr-WUc&feature=related


and a 'ticking timebomb' climax-bond racing to save lives of innocents from baddie's plan.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 10/10/2009 1:32:49 AM   
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I agree I loved Connery's dark humor and innuendo, Connery was way sexier than Moore too. Craig could be sexy I guess if he wasn't so moody, and I think he could pull off that smolder, he has nice eyes and body but just more humor please!

From Thunderball

BOND: Do you mind if my friend sits here for a moment she's just DEAD."
(the dead referring to Fiona, the red headed Spectre Assassin who's sniper shot by her own people trying to get Bond while the two are dancing)

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 12/10/2009 2:20:51 PM   
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Someone said, at some point, in some place or other (sorry to be so painfully specific), that Q and Miss Moneypenny should return in the next film, having been absent since Die Another Day.
 
Before we start thinking about a new Q and Moneypenny, can we please get rid of Judi “Dame Judi Dench” Dench as M, preferably in a pre-title sequence in which she’s bumped off by the bad guy (Vincent Cassel, with any luck), thereby setting Bond off on revenge and immediately putting him at odds with the new M. Speaking of which…
The new M should be a man. An old bugger who Bond immediately dislikes but grows to respect and admire over the course of the film, so that by the time the credits roll you believe he’d actually die for him. That’s the M of the books, and that’s what Daniel Craig’s Bond needs.

M needs to be played by a recognisable actor who looks like a scary headmaster, and should be sufficiently old and weatherbeaten, but not so ancient that he might cark it before the 24th film.

I think I’d have to plump for Bernard Hill, because he has the face of a salty old sea dog who hates everybody, or David Warner, who looks like he might fire lightning from his fingertips if a minion ever dared to question his orders. Which is in fact what he did in Time Bandits, so at least he’s got that on his CV.

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