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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 22/11/2008 11:17:56 AM   
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i cant believe you're suggesting they kill off m!
judi dench rules!

can't agree with any of you on that!
disgraceful suggestion lol

23 will obviously be set with bond getting deeper and deeper into the mysteries of Quantum. I'm considering the possibility that Bond will lse his british citizenship or something, as a result of Quantum's infiltration of the cabinet...
Scenes in New York would be awesome.
And no chance mr white is planned to be the head of Quantum if it was planned that he'd get killed off, obviously they'll be someone bigger, badder, and foreigner :P
shame we've lost Greene though, he was wicked.


no, just use bit from TMWGG novel where 007 attempts to kill m.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 3/3/2009 1:01:10 PM   
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Danny Boyle isn't directing the new film. His spokesman has shot down that rumour.

I distinctly remember saying how frustrating it was that Bond films get all the cars they need in terms of sponsorship but Mercedes were giving him grief over his usage of their brand for Indian gangsters in Slumdog Millionaire... yet they wouldn't mind if some evil hench men were driving Mercs to kill Bond.



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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 3/3/2009 2:43:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Timon

Danny Boyle isn't directing the new film. His spokesman has shot down that rumour.

I distinctly remember saying how frustrating it was that Bond films get all the cars they need in terms of sponsorship but Mercedes were giving him grief over his usage of their brand for Indian gangsters in Slumdog Millionaire... yet they wouldn't mind if some evil hench men were driving Mercs to kill Bond.




Maybe Mercedes were concerned that Slumdog was a little more "real world" than Bond? Anyway, damn shame Boyle isn't in the running (at this stage anyway).
I'm a little surprised that Bond 24 doesn't seem to be moving along as rapidly considering the success of QOS, seems like statements were flying about considering a future film about a month after Casino Royale was let out of the gates.
While I'm not a big fan of QOS (usual complaints - muddled story, sometimes incomprehensible action, a bit flat) I still like the more stripped down approach to the new films and Daniel Craig is a great Bond imo so I'm very interested to see where it goes next.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 4/3/2009 10:26:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Danny Boyle isn't directing the new film. His spokesman has shot down that rumour.

I distinctly remember saying how frustrating it was that Bond films get all the cars they need in terms of sponsorship but Mercedes were giving him grief over his usage of their brand for Indian gangsters in Slumdog Millionaire... yet they wouldn't mind if some evil hench men were driving Mercs to kill Bond.




Maybe Mercedes were concerned that Slumdog was a little more "real world" than Bond? Anyway, damn shame Boyle isn't in the running (at this stage anyway).
I'm a little surprised that Bond 24 doesn't seem to be moving along as rapidly considering the success of QOS, seems like statements were flying about considering a future film about a month after Casino Royale was let out of the gates.
While I'm not a big fan of QOS (usual complaints - muddled story, sometimes incomprehensible action, a bit flat) I still like the more stripped down approach to the new films and Daniel Craig is a great Bond imo so I'm very interested to see where it goes next.


dvd/blu ray sales come 1st then they'll start script/pre production up to autumn then film from jan 2010. plus they need to sort out serverence from sony deal.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 4/3/2009 4:25:30 PM   
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Am I the only one that kind of likes the lack of humour? I mean, I know Bond traditionally has a bit of sly humour in the films, but the literary character doesn't (I'm not saying the two have to be identical!) and the current storylines don't exactly lend themselves to quips.

I mean, Bond is getting into his stride as a 00-agent, he's lost the love of his life, quest for revenge, loses a friend in Matthis and reveals a mult-national organisation bent on destabilising the world....

I like the colder, harder Bond. A Bond that kills coldly harshly, has a drink to calm his nerves, washes the blood off him and moves on. It fits in to today's current climate. He has a licence to kill after all, let him use it.

Saying all the above though, I'm open to the idea of introducing more gadgets via Q and some casual flirting with Moneypenny, just as long as the gadgets don't overshadow the man and the flirting doesn't become a parody.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 4/3/2009 5:44:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Timon

Am I the only one that kind of likes the lack of humour? I mean, I know Bond traditionally has a bit of sly humour in the films, but the literary character doesn't (I'm not saying the two have to be identical!) and the current storylines don't exactly lend themselves to quips.

I mean, Bond is getting into his stride as a 00-agent, he's lost the love of his life, quest for revenge, loses a friend in Matthis and reveals a mult-national organisation bent on destabilising the world....

I like the colder, harder Bond. A Bond that kills coldly harshly, has a drink to calm his nerves, washes the blood off him and moves on. It fits in to today's current climate. He has a licence to kill after all, let him use it.

Saying all the above though, I'm open to the idea of introducing more gadgets via Q and some casual flirting with Moneypenny, just as long as the gadgets don't overshadow the man and the flirting doesn't become a parody.


Yeah agreed. I want to see a proper womanising, drinking Bond, who indulges in excess to overcompensate for the fact that he is pretty much an overpaid hitman.


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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 5/3/2009 10:51:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Am I the only one that kind of likes the lack of humour? I mean, I know Bond traditionally has a bit of sly humour in the films, but the literary character doesn't (I'm not saying the two have to be identical!) and the current storylines don't exactly lend themselves to quips.

I mean, Bond is getting into his stride as a 00-agent, he's lost the love of his life, quest for revenge, loses a friend in Matthis and reveals a mult-national organisation bent on destabilising the world....

I like the colder, harder Bond. A Bond that kills coldly harshly, has a drink to calm his nerves, washes the blood off him and moves on. It fits in to today's current climate. He has a licence to kill after all, let him use it.

Saying all the above though, I'm open to the idea of introducing more gadgets via Q and some casual flirting with Moneypenny, just as long as the gadgets don't overshadow the man and the flirting doesn't become a parody.


With you 100% on this - the new films are seemingly trying to distance themselves from the traditional Bond film forumla (not totally of course - there's still globetrotting, the odd gadget, beautiful ladies and odd villains) and it makes a nice change.
I kind of miss the quips but there's no point throwing them in just for the sake of it. Apparently a lot of Connery's tended to be ad-libbed during discussions he had with the director/s and reflected their sense of humour perhaps more than Flemings.
Re Q and Moneypenny - again I'd like to see them but not for the sake of making the films more like "classic Bond". If Moneypenny was back in the series I'd see her as being in a similar role to Fields in QOS - an intelligence officer. As for Q - MI6 must have a division to come up with weirdness like the portable defribrilator (!) so that'll be Q Branch and they must have a head man that reports to M. It could work.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 5/3/2009 11:14:05 AM   
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I don't mind the odd gadget, easy lay or quip but I remember when Quantum came out, some poster went nuts because it didn't follow the 'traditional Bond' forumula. He even laid out every beat that a Bond film had to hit:

Eg;- go under cover in bad guy's company, get rumbled, escape, get captured, bed Bond girl 1, she dies, get Bond girl 2..... it was ridiculous.

That's exactly what Austin Powers was mocking and I'm glad Craig, the Brocollis and co have shaken up the formula.

The thing I always took from the books and to some extent the films (like The Living Daylights) is that Bond doesn't really like his job. He just happens to be very good at it.

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RE: Bond 23 And Future Bond Films - 5/3/2009 6:39:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marwood

quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Am I the only one that kind of likes the lack of humour? I mean, I know Bond traditionally has a bit of sly humour in the films, but the literary character doesn't (I'm not saying the two have to be identical!) and the current storylines don't exactly lend themselves to quips.

I mean, Bond is getting into his stride as a 00-agent, he's lost the love of his life, quest for revenge, loses a friend in Matthis and reveals a mult-national organisation bent on destabilising the world....

I like the colder, harder Bond. A Bond that kills coldly harshly, has a drink to calm his nerves, washes the blood off him and moves on. It fits in to today's current climate. He has a licence to kill after all, let him use it.

Saying all the above though, I'm open to the idea of introducing more gadgets via Q and some casual flirting with Moneypenny, just as long as the gadgets don't overshadow the man and the flirting doesn't become a parody.


I kind of miss the quips but there's no point throwing them in just for the sake of it. Apparently a lot of Connery's tended to be ad-libbed during discussions he had with the director/s and reflected their sense of humour perhaps more than Flemings.


With Connery's quips i get the impression it's because he's a smug bastard, which is something i like to see in Bond, with Moore they were just cheesy.


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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 11/3/2009 2:32:41 PM   
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im working with michael g. wilson next week, i shall try find out some info. i may even plug my own idea to him!

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 11/3/2009 2:51:06 PM   
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Tell him to bring Quantum back! And storm MI6! Keep the hard bastard edge!

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 12/3/2009 4:03:30 PM   
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No more shaky cam! No more epileptic editing! Wide shots in the action scenes!

No more White/Keyes theme tunes! Gemma Arterton's phone number!

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RE: Bond 23 - 13/3/2009 1:12:24 PM   
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I liked 'Another Way To Die' and Chris Cornell's 'You Know My Name' but I'd like to perhaps hear a ballard along the likes of Shirley Bassey's contributions rather than the rockier ones akin to Duran Duran's and A-Ha's.

Perhaps get the likes of Jem/Duffy or their like to sing it?

Even better, just have an instrumental theme like OHMSS.... though due to the lack of commerciability of that decision, it's doubtful.

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RE: Bond 23 - 13/3/2009 1:25:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Timon

I liked 'Another Way To Die' and Chris Cornell's 'You Know My Name' but I'd like to perhaps hear a ballard along the likes of Shirley Bassey's contributions rather than the rockier ones akin to Duran Duran's and A-Ha's.

Perhaps get the likes of Jem/Duffy or their like to sing it?

Even better, just have an instrumental theme like OHMSS.... though due to the lack of commerciability of that decision, it's doubtful.


the film's composer has to write the theme tune-barry or arnold.
don't cut him out of the loop as was with LTK, GE, TND, DAD and QOS.

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RE: Bond 23 - 11/6/2009 4:32:45 PM   
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So Bond In Afganistan? Could be intriguing - Quantum utilising the heroin production to fund their terror plans, Bond and Leiter being dispatched to lead a UN/NATO international force to foil Quantum's plans- no doubt including a feisty Mossad/Service Securite/Deutsch Security Groupe female agent?

I still reckon they should cast some one physically matching Daniel Craig to be the villain, I mean Vesper's ex could have been the main villain but seemed to be an afterthought and merely a honeytrap for female agents.

Perhaps Mr White answers to someone who, when pressed against a wall, can hit back with everything he's got. I'm thinking actors like Damien Lewis, Shah Rukh Khan (get some Eastern flavour in there), Idris Elba, James Purefoy etc.

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RE: Bond 23 - 12/6/2009 12:20:58 PM   
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will it be called 'risico' or 'devil may care'?

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RE: Bond 23 - 12/6/2009 12:42:24 PM   
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What worries me about the Q scene in every film is that he gives Bond the exact 3 items he will need later on to escape/survive/win. That always feels like someone reverse-engeneered the script and put the details of the Q scene in later.

Writer 1: "How does Bond get out of the cell?"
Writer 2: "He could have a laser built into his watch!"
Writer 1: "But how do we explan that he has such a watch?"
Writer 2: "I know! Q could have given it to him earlier!"
Writer 1: "Ace!"
*highfives Writer 2*

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RE: Bond 23 - 12/6/2009 9:33:26 PM   
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Well it can't be any worse than QOS,the only Bond film I haven't seen fit to buy yet.

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RE: Bond 23 - 12/6/2009 10:03:06 PM   
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Really looking forward to bond 23, loving the new darker feel but i think they should bring back Q at least as long as the gadgets aren't too stupid eg. invisible cars, i think Hugh Laurie is perfect for Q in the new bond world with his english accent of course

muse theme song - awesome

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RE: Bond 23 - 12/6/2009 11:38:08 PM   
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Well it can't be any worse than QOS,the only Bond film I haven't seen fit to buy yet.


Yet you were happy to spend money on Moonraker, A View to A Kill and Diamonds Are Forever? You're seriously suggesting that QOS was worse than them?

Anyway, apparently Purvis and Wade will be joined by the fella (already forgotten his name - sorry) who wrote The Queen and Frost/Nixon on scripting duties. Good?

Btw - love the Hugh Laurie as Q suggestion


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RE: Bond 23 - 14/6/2009 8:35:41 AM   
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I hear this film is going to be mainly set in Afganistan, if that's true they better pull something special off that's all I can say.

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 25/6/2009 12:33:15 PM   
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interesting post from 'time out' about morgan writing new bond at -

http://www.timeout.com/film/features/show-feature/8023/an-open-letter-to-peter-morgan.html

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 25/6/2009 7:04:46 PM   
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An early trailer for Bond 23 has been released.Apparently its going to be a ''versus'' film..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWeg84_sM4

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 25/6/2009 7:32:26 PM   
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An early trailer for Bond 23 has been released.Apparently its going to be a ''versus'' film..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWeg84_sM4


I did actually laugh at that. Im surprised.


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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 26/6/2009 9:34:47 AM   
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Oh ha ha.

I think we all know that (providing he could get past all the gadgetry thrown at him) Craig's Bond would batter Brosnan's through the floor. Then he'd go looking for Jason Bourne - that's a versus film I'd like to see!



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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 26/6/2009 10:24:35 AM   
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I laughed at something darth silas posted? Christ..... everyone take shelter, here comes the apocolypse!

Couldn't help have a chuckle at that.  "That shirt makes you look a dickhead".  Childish, but funny.  That said, Craig is still a great Bond, as was Brosnan.  Just a pity Brosnan was let down by poor Bond stories. 

As for Bond 23, has a director been announced?  Please get Martin Cambell back. 

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 26/6/2009 4:28:11 PM   
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Oh ha ha.

I think we all know that (providing he could get past all the gadgetry thrown at him) Craig's Bond would batter Brosnan's through the floor. Then he'd go looking for Jason Bourne - that's a versus film I'd like to see!


Unlikely Craig would be able to catch Pierce in a chase.Those stacked heels must really slow him down!
As for Bourne,i think hed demolish both Pierce and Craig without breaking a sweat! And then go looking for the other Bonds..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGltN2llcuw

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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 26/6/2009 11:50:23 PM   
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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 27/6/2009 12:29:24 AM   
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RE: Bond 23 - QOS spoilers aplenty! - 1/7/2009 10:44:54 AM   
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The QoS storyline wasn't that strong and yes I know it was a short book but still, they should have strengthened the story line more.  

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